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#1 Posted on 14.12.03 1946.34
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Tejada signs six year deal with Orioles

NEW ORLEANS -- Former American League MVP Miguel Tejada agreed Sunday night to a six-year, $72 million contract with the Baltimore Orioles, leaving the Oakland Athletics for a team trying to rebuild.

Tejada must pass a physical to finalize the contract.

"Miguel continues the tradition of great Orioles shortstops. The cornerstone of the Orioles through the years has been our shortstops, and he certainly fits in that mold," vice president Mike Flanagan said.

Tejada receives a $12 million signing bonus, with $4 million payable in 2004 and $2 million each in 2005, 2006, 2010 and 2011.

He receives yearly salaries of $3 million in 2004, $9 million in 2005, $10 million in 2006, $12 million in 2007, $13 million in 2008 and $13 million in 2009.

Tejada made $5 million last season and $3.65 million in 2002.

"We have other players that are big players that we want to add to the club," executive vice president Jim Beattie said. "This is a signal -- one of the things we can do to show players that the Orioles are ready to contend, hopefully quickly."

The deal was the longest and richest of this offseason, though the Orioles still have more money to spend. Free agents Vladimir Guerrero, Ivan Rodriguez and Javy Lopez also have drawn Baltimore's attention.

Tejada, 27, hit .308 with 34 home runs and 131 RBI in 2002 to help the A's win 103 games and the AL West. After the season, he won the MVP honor.

Last year he slumped to a .278 average with 27 homers and 106 RBI, striking out 65 times and drawing 53 walks.

The Seattle Mariners and Detroit Tigers also had expressed interest.

"How many chances do you get to add an MVP-caliber player to your club who wants to be there for a long time?" new Orioles manager Lee Mazzilli said.

Baltimore saw him as a key to improving its lot in the AL East, where it has finished next-to-last for six consecutive years, trailing the New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox and Toronto Blue Jays.

Boston and New York have each made major moves this winter, and the Blue Jays have made several smaller moves to improve their pitching.

"You can't play dumb to the surroundings of what's going on around you," Mazzilli said. "But we have to think about our team."

The Orioles finished with just 71 wins in 2003 and were 30 games behind the AL East Division champion New York Yankees and 24 games in back of the wild-card winning Boston Red Sox. With Tampa Bay also addressing key needs this offseason, Baltimore was in danger of falling to the bottom of baseball's deepest division.
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#2 Posted on 14.12.03 1950.51
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Which catcher do you think they will sign: Pudge or Javy?
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#3 Posted on 14.12.03 2024.12
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Whoever will take less money. If I had to bet, I'd say Javy will sign with Baltimore while Pudge goes to the Cubs.
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#4 Posted on 14.12.03 2110.24
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According to Lee Sinins, the O's will soon announce they've signed Vlad and Pudge both.
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#5 Posted on 14.12.03 2126.26
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To update, I'm hearing the O's are to announce the signings of Vlad and Pudge tomorrow, but I can't find a link. Lee Sinins, of Click Here (baseballimmortals.net), is reporting this.
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#6 Posted on 15.12.03 0144.14
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Well good. Now maybe the Yankees will finish fourth in the AL East.
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#7 Posted on 15.12.03 0818.53
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These are good moves for the Orioles. However, when you have this much money to spend, investing some of it in a pitcher generally is a good move.
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#8 Posted on 15.12.03 1300.40
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Am I the only one thinking they WAY overpaid for this guy. Sure this guy is pretty good but 12 Million a year. So much for that market correction that all those colluding owners are planing behind the Union's back.
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#9 Posted on 15.12.03 1327.29
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    Originally posted by calvinh0560
    Am I the only one thinking they WAY overpaid for this guy. Sure this guy is pretty good but 12 Million a year. So much for that market correction that all those colluding owners are planing behind the Union's back.
If I can get some assistance from Rob Neyer...

On the one hand, paying Tejada an average of $12 million per season seems like one hell of a good deal for the Orioles. Leaving Alex Rodriguez out of the discussion because he's off in his own self- and Boras-created place, let's look at what baseball's top three shortstops will make in 2005. I'm going to fudge a little, prorating Tejada's and Derek Jeter's salaries, and guessing how much Nomar Garciaparra will make on his next deal.


2005 salary
Jeter $19 million 70
Garciaparra $14 million 81
Tejada $12 million 82


Miguel Tejada should give the Orioles lots of bang for the buck.

What's that last column? It's the Win Shares earned by these guys over the last three seasons. More is better. I cheated a little, going back to 2000 for Garciaparra and skipping his lost 2001, but I think this fairly represents his ability. This probably isn't real fair to Jeter, whose 2003 numbers suffered because of his shoulder injury. In terms of his overall contribution, he's comparable to Garciaparra and Tejada.

Yes, I know that Jeter does things that don't show up in the box score, and I know he becomes a different player when Tim McCarver's calling the action. The point here isn't that Jeter is not a great player. The point is that he is not worth roughly 40 percent more than Tejada, nor is Garciaparra worth 15 percent more than Tejada (a year ago, the Red Sox supposedly offered Garciaparra a four-year, $60 million contract).

By the standards of his peers, Tejada is underpaid.



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#10 Posted on 15.12.03 1547.43
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Hey I am not saying the they made a bad deal. Tejada is a good player. It is just Jim Beattie single handly killed the market correction.
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#11 Posted on 15.12.03 1642.02
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    Originally posted by calvinh0560
    Am I the only one thinking they WAY overpaid for this guy. Sure this guy is pretty good but 12 Million a year. So much for that market correction that all those colluding owners are planing behind the Union's back.


Neyer's correct to a point. Guys aren't getting A-Rod/Jeter dollars that much any more. (OK, NO ONE gets A-Rod $$$) Thome's contract was, what, $85 mil for 6 years? Epstein thought Tejada was going to get around $9 mil per, so he had Nomar penciled in around $12 mil.

My first reaction to the news was "too bad the M's didn't get him." Then I saw the contract and said "that's more than they would've paid, anyway.'' Turns out they had offered $45 mil for 5 years.
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#12 Posted on 17.12.03 0442.36
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They did overpay for him, even if he isn't making as much as other shortstops. You think he's going to be dynamite in six years? Not even Neyer thinks so, but he somehow leaves that out of his conclusion. Are we going to judge player salary by what big George is willing to throw at his talented but terribly over-hyped and overpaid shortstop?
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#13 Posted on 17.12.03 0940.09
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We'll see if the O's sign Vlad and Pudge, but if they do, maybe some of that money is "thank you" money for being able to sign those two. At least if the tons of "Dominican influence" stuff is true (and signing Tejada pushes that over the brink for Vlad to sign).
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#14 Posted on 17.12.03 1221.27
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Am I the only one wondering: ORIOLES, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?

They've signed Tejada for $12 million per. Let's say they sign Vlad at $16 mil and Pudge at $8 mil. That's $36 million committed to three players. I've looked at the Orioles' roster and there seems to be NO pitching. I think if you're attending an O's game and you have outfield seats, you'd better bring your glove, and that's all well and good, but it's been proven that you can't win anything by trying to outscore your opponents 12-11 every game.

Furthermore, with the way baseball's playoff structure is set up the O's aren't going to be competing for the wild card without a serious upgrade to the pitching staff. Do they really think that signing Vlad, Miggy, and Pudge is going to make them competitve in the short-term with the Yankees (17 former all-stars on their roster) or Red Sox (adding Schilling and Foulke, swapping Manny and Nomar for A-Rod and Magglio Ordonez is an upgrade) for second in the AL East? With that pitching staff are they even a SOLID third ahead of Toronto right now?

Are they building for two years from now when the Yanks and Sox' aging rosters will need to be overhauled? I highly question that approach, since BOTH teams have shown that they will throw whatever money is necessary to make things happen and will likely have vastly higher payrolls by adding new star players as the older ones start to show their age. They are obviously not going to hit on EVERY player acquisition they make, but doesn't it stand to reason that if the O's wanted, say, Tim Hudson when he becomes a free agent, that the Yanks or Sox or most likely both will throw more money his way and have the history of winning (as opposed to building like the O's) to keep him out of Baltimore?

I'm not suggesting that they should just roll over and give up because they are in the AL East and they'll never make headway, but wouldn't you think the O's would to try to model the recent World Series winners by building up their farm systems and pitching staffs and finding the right mix of guys that catch fire and play great baseball despite their payroll limitations, as opposed to the Rangers' failed approach of throwing big dough at non-pitching or shaky pitching (Chan Ho Park) free agents and hoping that they'll just outslug people?

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#15 Posted on 17.12.03 1227.18
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I have to say I agree with probably everything you just said. I was thinking about this the other day, who exactly do the O's have to pitch? Damian Moss, Kurt Ainsworth, possibly bringing back Sydney Ponson? Other than their closer, Jorge Julio, I don't think I can name two other guys on their pitching staff off the top of my head.
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#16 Posted on 17.12.03 1233.11
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    I'm not suggesting that they should just roll over and give up because they are in the AL East and they'll never make headway, but wouldn't you think the O's would to try to model the recent World Series winners by building up their farm systems and pitching staffs and finding the right mix of guys that catch fire and play great baseball despite their payroll limitations, as opposed to the Rangers' failed approach of throwing big dough at non-pitching or shaky pitching (Chan Ho Park) free agents and hoping that they'll just outslug people?

We are building up our farm system. Adam Loewen, Matt Riley, John Maine and hopefully Ryan Hannaman will comprise a chunk of the roation by 2006(that's three fireballing lefties and a young Greg Maddux). Plus there is Nick Markasis(OF), Val Majewski(OF), and Tripper Johsnon(3B). This team will have great youngsters in three years to add to Vlad, Pudge, Tejada, Gibbons, Matos, and Bigbie.
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#17 Posted on 17.12.03 1326.02
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Grimis, I know you are an Orioles fan (actually that's what makes this kind of fun) and I'm not hating on them just to try to be right or just to irritate you, but doesn't that strike you as a shaky line of thought? Weren't Paul Wilson. Jason Isringhausen, and Bill Pulsipher going to be the Mets rotation for a decade? And I think they had all reached Triple-A. Even more recently the Mariners had Ryan Anderson and Gil Meche as their #1 and #1A "aces of the future". Meche missed two years with arm surgery and Anderson might never pitch again. It's likely that one of your four guys will be as good as advertised and the other three will fall short of expectations. Will the Orioles be able to attract a quality pitchers to make a good staff with $36 mil tied up in three contracts? The Mariners have one of the best bullpens in baseball and their two set-up guys and closer combine at $14-15 million together. You guys have some big-time needs in the bullpen and rotation.

The Rangers had a "plan" when they gave A-Rod his huge contract: HE would attract other big-name free agents to play in Texas and they would build a winner. They're still waiting for that to happen.
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#18 Posted on 17.12.03 1426.50
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I will concede the points on the starting rotation for 2004; right now it's Rodrigo Lopez(who has been awful in the Mexican Winter League), Erik DuBose, Omar Daal, Matt Riley, Kurt Ainsworth and Jason Johnson(until he's nontendered). The 2004 roation could be a problem. But the bullpen is pretty good; BJ Ryan, Buddy Groom, John Parrish, and Rick Bauer are solid. Julio will be good once he gets his head together. Therre is sitll talk(after Tejada, Pudge, Vlad) of bringing back Ponson and adding Ugi Urbina, and there should be a few good pitchers available after getting nontendered(Freddy Garcia would be an improvement, beleive it or not).

And I will grant the Wilson/Isringhausen/Pulsipher connection. But with all of the good pitchers and players we do have, the percentages are in our favor. This is not going to be bunch of Bobby Hills, Brien Taylors, and Ty Griffins....at least I hope not.
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