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#1 Posted on 3.12.03 1716.39
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From 411:

The reason Matt Hardy didn't have his full ring entrance at his RAW debut wasbecause it usually elicits a huge face pop, and the writers want to establish him as a heel.


God forbid they do something that elicits a reaction from the crowd. HHH's entrance gets a pop, I'm sure that'll be next on the chopping block. Ric Flair played a heel for most of his life, and people WOOOOOO!! everytime anyone does a chop.

Even Cena, although they've turned him since, got pops for his participatory raps.

As a friend said, so much for letting the fans make up their own minds.

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#2 Posted on 3.12.03 1729.20
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Considering that they sorta kinda brought Matt Hardy back as a face (until the swerve later in the show), I'd say this is just another example of the 411 writers making shit up to fill space.
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#3 Posted on 3.12.03 1827.34
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As far as IN ARENA crowd response, what didn't they do for his debut? They played his music, they played his video as best I could tell, he didn't have that crazy of a light show on SmackDown! (Velocity) Yea, they haven't been showing much of the Mattiude screen effects, but they can't hear people cheering from home. (I've TRIED.) We at home might have not gotten the full version 1 (a full entrance wouldn't help as much as JIM ROSS KNOWING THE NAMES OF THE MOVES), but people buying the tickets don't appear to be getting any less Matt than usual. Unless the Full Matt Hardy Entrance includes Shannon Moore tagging along.

In 411's defense (though it would be cool if next time you did this, you'd throw a link to the relevant article), 95%. Now, it's possible they might have got it out of context - they have before - but there's no profit in making up fact-type things in their 'news' reports when you can just repeat. (Recaps are a different story.)

In this case, that bit was taken from a PWTorch.com article, so they should be credited/mocked - though if i thought this had much merit, I'd search there to get it in context. There's obviously some disconnect between what they're saying and what I'm getting here.
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#4 Posted on 3.12.03 1841.07
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    In this case, that bit was taken from a PWTorch.com article, so they should be credited/mocked - though if i thought this had much merit, I'd search there to get it in context. There's obviously some disconnect between what they're saying and what I'm getting here.
I should credit/mock you for not providing http://www.pwtorch.com/ artman/publish/article_6283.shtml (warning: seven popups), which I easily found thanks to wrestlingdb.com (search: Matt Hardy, then order by Date)
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#5 Posted on 3.12.03 1942.07
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Though being heel for quite a while now Hardy has always gotten a hushed pop when he's come out. Besides the way the WWE does stuff sometimes it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to make us cheer him again eventually because that was rumor way back while he was still on Smackdown. Anyways...I'm out.
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#6 Posted on 3.12.03 2128.16
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Matt Hardy Version 1.0 just isn't the same until he reunites with Shannon Moore. I wouldn't mind seeing him start a lackey stable like Raven's Nest, but it'd really have to be the right people and I'm not to sure who I'd pick at this point. Matt really is a nice fresh face to bring to Raw though.
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#7 Posted on 3.12.03 2306.05
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I think their makeing a new entrance and video for Matt and that why they haven't show him comeing to the ring. Or it could be that he getting more of a reaction then the bigger heels (or face in the matter) and they can have that.
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#8 Posted on 5.12.03 0447.47
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Matt Hardy Version 1.0 just isn't the same until he reunites with Shannon Moore. I wouldn't mind seeing him start a lackey stable like Raven's Nest, but it'd really have to be the right people and I'm not to sure who I'd pick at this point. Matt really is a nice fresh face to bring to Raw though.


There MUST be a potential MFer on the Raw roster, but I don't see any good candidates.

I'm still hoping my idea of Edge and Christian reuniting to face Matt and Shannon at Wrestlemania XX comes to fruition, but I doubt it. I'll still dream, though.
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#9 Posted on 5.12.03 1039.35
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    Originally posted by Pike
    I think their makeing a new entrance and video for Matt and that why they haven't show him comeing to the ring. Or it could be that he getting more of a reaction then the bigger heels (or face in the matter) and they can have that.


Please. I like Matt too, but let's not pretend he's more over, as a heel or a face, than Triple H or Goldberg, as much as I'm sure we'd like to pretend he is.
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#10 Posted on 5.12.03 1049.44
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    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Originally posted by Pike
      I think their makeing a new entrance and video for Matt and that why they haven't show him comeing to the ring. Or it could be that he getting more of a reaction then the bigger heels (or face in the matter) and they can have that.


    Please. I like Matt too, but let's not pretend he's more over, as a heel or a face, than Triple H or Goldberg, as much as I'm sure we'd like to pretend he is.


He's certainly not at that level. But Matt's appeal is like that of a cool band that only you and your friends know about. Matt Hardy does not need the marks' permission to rule. And he's got the possibility, however slight, to hit it big. And then we can stop liking him and say, "Man, I liked him back with he was teaming with Shannon Moore and Crash Holly..."
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