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|ICQ: || ||#1 Posted on 25.11.03 1432.53 |
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| As I'm writing this, I'm about to submit my ballot for the year-end RSPW awards. I am completely convinced of one thing - in this year of craziness, there's only one stand-out clear-cut candidate for Wrestler of the Year, and his name is Chris Jericho. I've taken it upon myself to try and convince you of that as well.|
-- The Raw brand features the three worst workers in major professional wrestling today: Scott Steiner, Kevin Nash, and Goldberg. At some point during the year, Chris Jericho succeeded where others more heavily pushed had failed by carrying all three men to watchable matches. In the case of Goldberg, again, Chris Jericho even managed to make the match both good and enjoyable, again succeeding where others failed. No other wrestler has amassed such a record this year. (Kurt Angle, to memory, has only worked with one individual - Big Show - whom you could claim to be an inferior worker, and even then, Show has been shown to be superior to the three men mentioned.)
-- Chris Jericho has not missed one iota of time due to injury, or for any other reason. The same cannot be said for (among others) Triple H, Shawn Michaels, and Kurt Angle.
-- Chris Jericho has not needed turns or gimmicks to maintain his heat. The same cannot be said for (among others) Chris Benoit, Hulk Hogan, Triple H, or Brock Lesnar.
-- Chris Jericho is widely accepted as a strong worker and technical wrestler, if not the most superior. The same cannot be said for (among others) Hulk Hogan, Triple H, and Raven.
-- Chris Jericho is the only wrestler whose promo work is strong enough to merit being given a weekly interview segment that is still ongoing in some form. Kurt Angle might have been successful during his injury layoff with something like this, but you don't see him doing this, do you? You didn't see AJ Styles speaking for himself that much, right?
-- And finally... Chris Jericho does all this despite not receiving the push that it merits. That's probably the most important factor in this: He works and talks like a main eventer, despite wrongly not being pushed as one, and he does it just as well (if not better) than the "real" main-eventers.
Chris Jericho -- 2003 RSPW Wrestler of the Year. Period.
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|#2 Posted on 25.11.03 1525.54 |
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| Ooh... I could agree, but it's going to be tough to dethrone a Kurt Angle who risked life and paralysis to perform in the WrestleMania main event... That's a cut above, and shows his heart, which, while that's not the category, speaks just as loudly as his ring and mic work.|
Jericho or Angle... hmmmm... definite toss-up to me.
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|#3 Posted on 25.11.03 1536.39 |
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| I gotta disagree, sorta. If Jericho won I would not have a problem. If Angle won I would not have a problem either really, but I say Eddie is the clear cut choice. My vote would be|
After those three I would definitely consider some TNA wrestlers, probably Styles and Raven.
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|#4 Posted on 25.11.03 1608.33 |
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| I'd really like to lobby Booker T as the most overrated wrestler. The guy does nothing but kick, and rather poorly. He's not very good on the stick. He's a guy that most of the net raves about and yet he never improves his game. Booker T is the most overrated wrestler in the sport. |
While I'm at it give a shout out to The Big Show for Most Improved. He's become a viable main eventer and title contender again.
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|#5 Posted on 25.11.03 1615.08 |
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| As much as I like Jericho and appreciate the bumps he takes and the lengths he goes to make untalented lugs look decent, I can't see giving him the nod here. My vote is for Eddie. The guy has been in some barnburner matches with Edge and he's one of the most popular guys on the Smackdown Roster. If they had pushed him, he'd be putting on four-star matches every pay-per-view.|
There's no doubting Jericho's talent, but at times, he seems to just cycle through his moveset. I thought the match with HBK was okay, but not as great as everyone makes it out to be. And other than that, I can't remember a notable match that Jericho has been in. Yes, he bumps his ass off in the Elimination chamber, because he's the only one that can. But I look at Jericho as more of a utility infielder, not the starting pitcher.
Even on his promos, Jericho has great delivery, but he's stagnant. How many more times is he gonna refer to someone as a "sanctimonious sonofabitch?"
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|Y!: ||#6 Posted on 25.11.03 1637.51 |
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| I remember back in April/May when Jericho was carrying a couple of 600lbs gorillas to great bouts, and thinking should he be considered as wrestler of the year? Even though I haven't watched RAW for a couple months, up untill the last few weeks he had my vote. |
Maybe I'm got too retro, I grew up on sending in year end ballots to the PWI, yet to find out thirteen years later they were fixed.
I did not become disgruntled however, as I still got this tendency to think wrestler of the year as the guy who did the best while at top. The old school notion that the champ carries the organization. Laugh all you want!
Anyway, I didn't go with my head, I went with my heart. And picked Lesner in first, Angle in second, Jericho in third. Jericho getting in on the fact he is indeed a BMW in a parking lot full of Yugos. Not the most popular choice, but Lesner did the best while at top.
Jericho did get my vote in a few categories, Worker of the Year, Interviewer of the year, favorite Wrestler of the Year, Heel of the year, and I know he came in second for match and feud. I came damn close to being a smartass and naming him promotion of the year.
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|ICQ: || ||#7 Posted on 25.11.03 2009.50 |
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| Jericho getting the RSPW Wrestler Of The Year is overdue. He completely deserves it, and I echo Bucs' arguments. This is truly the year. He has been consistantly fantastic for so, so long. I hope he gets the nod. |
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|#8 Posted on 25.11.03 2214.53 |
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| I usually like giving someone who at least had a title run Wrestler of the Year. But this year I have to make an exception. Jericho has been such an MVP of the show.|
Voting goes from Nov 02-Nov03 so it the voting period caught last years Survivor Series first elimination chamber which he was just marvelous in and was also solid in the second edition. He took people who were having bad matches and made the look good against him... Jericho continues to be an important part of Raw from the Highlight Reel to feuds and matches. His feud and PPV match with Goldberg was solid. His Match with Shawn at Wrestlemania was MOTY quality.
I still haven't made my final vote. But I'm penciling in Jericho on top for now.
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|#9 Posted on 25.11.03 2219.51 |
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| WRESTLER OF THE YEAR: Vince McMahon, seriously, who has had more good matches this year? Ok I'm kidding, Jericho, he's carried everybody to a good match. Whether it was technical masters like Nash, or a washed pansies like RVD he has had tremendous matches all year. Eddy, Angle, and Beniot are in there of course.|
He's also the lead for promo of the year with Angle, Cena, and Raven very close behind. Christian would be in that catagory, unfortunately there wasn't enough of Chris Tian talking about the peeps.
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|#10 Posted on 26.11.03 1409.33 |
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| I sent my ballot two days ago (and published it on www.1ryderfakin.com by the way) and I voted for Jericho as a wrestler of the year. He always gives a great effort, great matches, great interviews, a tremendous heel.|
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|#11 Posted on 26.11.03 1442.28 |
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| I don't think in other sports, the MVP isn't necessarily decided on the basis of "but look what he had to work with". Jericho's good, yes, but Angle's had far, far better matches in the last year than Jericho has. Eddy too, if you go back to the ladder matches he had with Eddy and RVD, (though these might have been over a year ago) some great tag-matches late last year, some good stuff this year as well, he's had better matches this year than Y2J. Benoit's still better in the ring. |
Now no one's out to deny that Jericho's been given crap to work with compared to any of these guys, but even after you consider all factors, his performance just doesn't hold up to these guys.
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|#12 Posted on 26.11.03 1559.33 |
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| I'd agree that Jericho hasn't had many great singles matches this year, but I think his tag work with Christian was awesome, especially their feud with Booker and Goldust. I'd actually be willing to vote Jericho and Christian as team of the year. Also, while Kurt is always good for a promo, I'd say Jericho has had far and away the best year for promos. Also, Jericho's one of only a handful of top guys that stayed healthy all year. All together, I think I'd go with Jericho. |
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|#13 Posted on 26.11.03 1613.35 |
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| I really think Jericho's promos have fallen off a notch over the past couple of months. He seems to come up with a new catchphrase/word combo and beat it into the ground, and then when he's done with that he STILL uses it every other week, just to make sure he's got the maximum usage out of it. He's had a stellar year, to be sure, but as HMD said, I don't think he's touched Angle or Eddie in terms of in-ring content or charisma. His act, like it or not, is in such a funk, mainly due to a total lack of forward momentum. |
Besides, if we were going on in-ring performance alone, I'd say that Shawn Michaels has probably had a better year than Jericho. Sure, he doesn't wrestle nearly as often, but when he has he's never put in a bad performance.
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|#14 Posted on 27.11.03 0550.34 |
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| Could someone please explain what RSPW is because it is menationed every month in Power Slam. Is it something to do with Pro Wrestling Illistutrated |
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|#15 Posted on 27.11.03 1357.34 |
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| okey could someone explain to me what the RSPW Awards are. I've never heard of them before and how the hell can I vote?|
I used google to search about RSPW but I only found some weird stuff and I understanded nothing. So could any of you post a detailed explenation how to vote. And is there some kind of nominations or can you just vote for whoever you want?
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|#16 Posted on 30.11.03 1225.05 |
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RSPW is also known as r.s.p-w and they BOTH refer to the Usenet newsgroup rec.sport.pro-wrestling, which has nothing at all to do with Pro Wrestling Illustrated (or even Illistutrated).
Originally posted by reddragon
Could someone please explain what RSPW is because it is menationed every month in Power Slam. Is it something to do with Pro Wrestling Illistutrated
news:rec.sport.pro-wrestling may work if you have your browser set up to read news.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=rec.sport.pro-wrestling is the Google Groups (formerly DejaNews) version
The unofficial official webpage is hosted by me at http://rspw.org.
WARNING: It ain't for the faint of heart.
Last day of voting is today so if you haven't figured it out by now, I probably didn't want your vote counted anyway. ;-)
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