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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Heidenreich/Stevie on Heat *Spoiler*
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#21 Posted on 28.11.03 1453.59
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    Originally posted by madiq
    My serious-serious question is this: What is Heidenreich's purpose?

    I mean, why give him those few weeks of building up the "Little Johnny" storyline, along with his debut, only to put him on Heat to languish? What purpose does he serve? He should be putting someone over, or being put over himself.

    From the matches I've seen, his ringwork is rather heelish (that is to say, unimpressive). I wouldn't mind seeing him as Matt Hardy's newest MFer... And since Little Johnny is a hand puppet, why not have him be the Littlest MFer?


Please, for the love of God, keep, Heidenreich as far away from Matt Hardy as humanly possible.
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#22 Posted on 28.11.03 2016.54
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    Originally posted by Tenken347
    To be fair, even with all the crap he takes on this board, I think Nathan Jones has really improved in his time away from Smackdown. Now, he's certainly no Kurt Angle, but I think he's coming along quite nicely. Even Matt Morgan isn't too sloppy, and Batista I think improves a little bit every time I see him. Hrnrnr, however, is just sloppy as all hell. Sloppy and boring. I think Stevie got lucky, because I think it's only a matter of time before he hurts somebody real bad.


Jones has worked with Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit and gotten to throw around Shannon Moore. Reminds me of the Tom McGee/Bret Hart story where McGee was this huge jacked up guy that they thought would be the next Hogan. He got a tryout against this young Bret Hart kid and after the match everyone KNEW McGee was the greatest thing ever. How soon did they realize it was all Bret Hart and Tom McGee is barely a footnote in history.
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#23 Posted on 29.11.03 0824.28
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It's not just Jones' offence, though. Look at his selling. He bumps pretty good, and he remembers when he's been hurt. That's pretty good, especially for a big man.
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#24 Posted on 30.11.03 1822.10
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Just saw this match on Heat. And two things: a) Real injury or work, that was an incredibly nasty bump Stevie took; he landed right on the back of his head with the rest of his body folded over him, and b) they didn't show Stevie doing the stretcher job, nor did they show Charles Robinson doing the X-sign (although I may have missed that). Make of that what you will.
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#25 Posted on 30.11.03 1857.01
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    Originally posted by InVerse
      Originally posted by AMG2K2
      Makes me appreciate Shannon Moore a little more, having to take bumps on Smackdown two weeks in a row now by two green rookies.


    Nathan Jones has been wrestling professionally for over 5 years. I wouldn't exactly call him a rookie.


I consider anyone wrestling with less than around 9-10 years or so experience a rookie, but then again, I'm all old school.


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#26 Posted on 30.11.03 2117.30
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    Originally posted by Shem the Penman
    Just saw this match on Heat. And two things: a) Real injury or work, that was an incredibly nasty bump Stevie took; he landed right on the back of his head with the rest of his body folded over him, and b) they didn't show Stevie doing the stretcher job, nor did they show Charles Robinson doing the X-sign (although I may have missed that). Make of that what you will.

Since they didn't show a replay, it's hard to see what went "wrong". To me, it looked like Heidy didn't hold onto Stevie's legs, causing Stevie to land on his head. If somebody taped Heat (tape Heat? Ha!), it would be interesting to see his or her opinion after watching it a few times.
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#27 Posted on 30.11.03 2135.14
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#28 Posted on 1.12.03 0455.24
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Yeah, that was definitely Heidenreich's fault. As he fell back, he actually flung Richards' legs over his shoulders, causing Richards to be driven headfirst into the canvas, kinda like a spike powerbomb. Problem was, his fall was completely uncontrolled, so thank God he wasn't seriously hurt. Heidenreich needs to be chastised for such a blantant disregard for a colleague's safety.

BTW, did anyone else notice Richards' new Crash Holly-themed tights? Definitely a classy move, but unfortunately, the announcers didn't address it; I think management has told them specifically NOT to do so.
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#29 Posted on 1.12.03 1139.38
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With how on purpose Jon pushed Steven's feet on the way over, I want think at least one of them was planning on Steven taking a face first bump, which would be awful unusual from an eletric chair suplex.

Still, that move is an awfully unneccesary risk for a guy nursing a shoulder injury, a green guy, and last match not ending well either. I understood the point - following the match story of Jon overpowering Steven totally - but that didn't seem like the smartest way to do it.


    BTW, did anyone else notice Richards' new Crash Holly-themed tights?


Seeing as he spent the first two minutes of the segment pointing to them, I'd hope everyone would notice them.

He really need to use a darker pink for "CORP", but then he really needs to be able to do something GM like.
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#30 Posted on 2.12.03 1107.36
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It's too bad that guys like Stevie and Shannon have to take the chances they do to build up some of these big guys that are clearly not ready, and probably never will be. Must suck to be in the position of having to risk your career fighting these guys so you can keep your job.

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#31 Posted on 2.12.03 1122.18
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At least they're capitalizing on it and turning it into a story. After Heidenreich's match last night at the Heat tapings...


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Stevie ran out and beat him down with a chair.
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#32 Posted on 3.12.03 1246.33
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The problem with that is


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This - unless it's Jon Sometimes-H out - is that it can only lead to a match or matches against each other and very little good can come from that.

I guess eventually they should get better together, but why take the risk? This isn't lightining and there's no reason to think Stevie won't get hurt a third time.
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