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#1 Posted on 24.11.03 2213.23
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I just came across this, and I thought it was quite amusing...



From: http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/content_objectid=13652625_ method=full_siteid=106694_headline=-GROUND-FARCE-1-name_ page.html





GROUND FARCE 1 Nov 23 2003


Queen's fury as Bush goons wreck garden

Exclusive By Terry O'Hanlon


THE Queen is furious with President George W. Bush after his state visit caused thousands of pounds of damage to her gardens at Buckingham Palace.

Royal officials are now in touch with the Queen's insurers and Prime Minister Tony Blair to find out who will pick up the massive repair bill. Palace staff said they had never seen the Queen so angry as when she saw how her perfectly-mantained lawns had been churned up after being turned into helipads with three giant H landing markings for the Bush visit.

The rotors of the President's Marine Force One helicopter and two support Black Hawks damaged trees and shrubs that had survived since Queen Victoria's reign.

And Bush's army of clod-hopping security service men trampled more precious and exotic plants.

The Queen's own flock of flamingoes, which security staff insisted should be moved in case they flew into the helicopter rotors, are thought to be so traumatised after being taken to a "place of safety" that they might never return home.

The historic fabric of the Palace was also damaged as high-tech links were fitted for the US leader and his entourage during his three-day stay with the Queen.

The Palace's head gardener, Mark Lane, was reported to be in tears when he saw the scale of the damage.

"The Queen has every right to feel insulted at the way she has been treated by Bush," said a Palace insider.

"The repairs will cost tens of thousands of pounds but the damage to historic and rare plants will be immense. They are still taking an inventory.

"The lawns are used for royal garden parties and are beautifully kept. But 30,000 visitors did not do as much damage as the Americans did in three days.

"Their security people and support staff tramped all over the place and left an absolute mess. It is particularly sad because the Queen Mother loved to wander in the garden just as the Queen and Prince Charles do now.

"Some of the roses, flowers and shrubs damaged are thought to be rare varieties named after members of the Royal Family and planted by the Queen Mother and Queen.

"Other Royals had their own favourite parts of the garden as children and some of those areas have been damaged."

The Queen's insurers have told her she is covered for statues, garden furniture and plants she personally owns, but the bill for repairing damage to the lawns and the structure of the Palace will probably have to be picked up by the Government.

The Americans made alterations to accommodate specialised equipment. The mass of gadgetry meant the Royals couldn't get a decent TV picture during the visit.



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#2 Posted on 24.11.03 2325.14
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Good grief, is the administration trying to piss England off? Blair may be a big fan of Bush and company, but insulting the Royals, trashing the palace, and making outrageous demands of the government doesn't seem like the best way to endear them to the rest of the country.

Brit Weiners, how is the general populace reacting to all this?
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#3 Posted on 25.11.03 0009.10
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Yes, You can land your helicopters in the garden, please do! We would also like your entorage to arrive here, stay in this place there, and you can use these facilities here.

What? Your helicopters caused DAMAGE to plants? GASP!

If anyone is really pissed about this, they should place the blame where it belongs- on the bonehead British diplomatic liason who thought it was best to place a large American deligation where they did....
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#4 Posted on 25.11.03 0059.57
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The Queen has her own flamingoes? The hell?
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#5 Posted on 25.11.03 0428.39
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They were complaining that they couldn't get a TV signal? They had guests over and several dinners to go to. When did the Royals have time to catch up on Eastenders and The Bill (which, thanks to The Daily Mirror, we know Liz watches)?

Interesting to note - Blair always claimed that the Royals pushed for the visit, not him. If this was the case, why is he being consulted on who will pay for the damages? Beside we all now the answer anyway - the taxpayer.

But, hey, she brings tourists to the country!
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#6 Posted on 25.11.03 0604.00
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Um, I haven't seen the story cited anywhere but the Sunday Mirror....
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#7 Posted on 25.11.03 0636.44
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Come now, Grimis, I remember that was the case for a lot of your articles on the exact definitive location of WMDs during and before the Iraq invasion.
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#8 Posted on 25.11.03 0926.57
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I hope at least one of the Americans, while he was stomping some fancy shmancy plant into the ground, was thinking to himself "This is for burning our White House, BIATCH!"

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#9 Posted on 25.11.03 1238.01
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I'll make sure to piss on the statue of Abraham Lincoln next time I'm in Washington. Then we'll see if THAT gets treated with the same jovial attitude.

"Interesting to note - Blair always claimed that the Royals pushed for the visit, not him. If this was the case, why is he being consulted on who will pay for the damages? Beside we all now the answer anyway - the taxpayer."

Yep. Same taxpayer who stumped 15million for Bush's ridiculously exorbitant security demands.

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#10 Posted on 25.11.03 1921.27
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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I'll make sure to piss on the statue of Abraham Lincoln next time I'm in Washington. Then we'll see if THAT gets treated with the same jovial attitude.

    "Interesting to note - Blair always claimed that the Royals pushed for the visit, not him. If this was the case, why is he being consulted on who will pay for the damages? Beside we all now the answer anyway - the taxpayer."

    Yep. Same taxpayer who stumped 15million for Bush's ridiculously exorbitant security demands.




While I regret the flower and lawns getting damaged, Im sure the Bushes and the Secret Service do too, But it wasnt intentional. It doesnt matter who invited Bush, the Queen made the decision that they would stay in the palace, and I know that the Secret Service explained to the Palace security exactly what they would require. So nobody shoulda been surprised at them parking Marine One on the lawn.


And while I dont knock anyone usually for Bush bashing,BUT I never blame any president for his security. Like him or not He is an important figure, and his security should be paramount.


And if the Queen of England or Tony Blair came on an official State visit the United States would pay any amount to Guarantee their security. Im surprised the Brits dont take that kind of stuff more seriously. Thats what shocked me the most about Dianas death.
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#11 Posted on 25.11.03 2019.23
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All I can think about when I am reading this story is the Simpsons episode I saw this weekend, it's ironic how these two things coincided with each other.
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#12 Posted on 26.11.03 0331.13
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    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      I'll make sure to piss on the statue of Abraham Lincoln next time I'm in Washington. Then we'll see if THAT gets treated with the same jovial attitude.

      "Interesting to note - Blair always claimed that the Royals pushed for the visit, not him. If this was the case, why is he being consulted on who will pay for the damages? Beside we all now the answer anyway - the taxpayer."

      Yep. Same taxpayer who stumped 15million for Bush's ridiculously exorbitant security demands.




    While I regret the flower and lawns getting damaged, Im sure the Bushes and the Secret Service do too, But it wasnt intentional. It doesnt matter who invited Bush, the Queen made the decision that they would stay in the palace, and I know that the Secret Service explained to the Palace security exactly what they would require. So nobody shoulda been surprised at them parking Marine One on the lawn.


    And while I dont knock anyone usually for Bush bashing,BUT I never blame any president for his security. Like him or not He is an important figure, and his security should be paramount.


    And if the Queen of England or Tony Blair came on an official State visit the United States would pay any amount to Guarantee their security. Im surprised the Brits dont take that kind of stuff more seriously. Thats what shocked me the most about Dianas death.



Diana's death was a car accident. She had a bodyguard with her. There is no more to the story.

wordlife, it becomes much more interesting when you consider the warning that Murdoch gave, stating that if Blair didn't 'improve' in his work ("Give me a terrestrial TV channel, ya pommy bastard"), his papers would switch allegiance from Labour to the Conservatives. A lot of people are interested in what Tony is prepared to do to keep the old nutjob on side.
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#13 Posted on 26.11.03 0841.33
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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I'll make sure to piss on the statue of Abraham Lincoln next time I'm in Washington.


You'll get arrested, and depending on how many rednecks, buzzcuts, or jingos are present, will be beaten bloody. The guys who stepped on Old Mrs. Windsor's garden (face it, that's what happened) were government officials with sub-machine guns, and were behind closed fences, which is probably why nobody said anything when it was happening. If only those stupid guards would move or talk once and a while, they could have told them to "watch out" or "don't do that".

EDIT: Hey, A-MOL, is there anything actually in that picture in your sig? I looked at it for about a minute, and saw didley.

(edited by Lexus on 26.11.03 0942)
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#14 Posted on 26.11.03 0901.27
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I think the Lincoln statue thing was more of a reaction to Bizzle Izzle's dignified response to the story than anything that actually happened.
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#15 Posted on 26.11.03 0952.00
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Are the Royal Family not millionaires? I am sure they can afford to plant a few new trees if needed. Besides, if a Helicoptor can bring the trees down, they were probably about to die anyhow.
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#16 Posted on 26.11.03 1210.41
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"I think the Lincoln statue thing was more of a reaction to Bizzle Izzle's dignified response to the story than anything that actually happened."

Correctamundo.


"And while I dont knock anyone usually for Bush bashing,BUT I never blame any president for his security. Like him or not He is an important figure, and his security should be paramount."

Security is fine. Laying on 14,000 extra policemen, cordoning off parts of London, turning off mobile phone masts, declaring a total no-fly zone and attempting to obtain total diplomatic immunity for all of the US security staff is paranoid to the extreme.




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#17 Posted on 26.11.03 1231.35
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There's nothing like watching an internatinal incident unfold on a message board.

I'm just surprised no one's mentioned how we kicked some English-ass 230 years ago. Put that on your scone and eat it!

P.S. I am joking...
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#18 Posted on 26.11.03 1240.59
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That's how our secret service handles things, at least from my limited experience. They are always paranoid, extremely paranoid, and they always go overboard to do their job.

My one experience with secret service was when I was much younger, with the Boy Scouts, and we were helping out with a ceremony to honor WWI veterans at the local fair, when Lloyd Bensen (I think that's how you spelled, he was a VP candidate with Mondale) decided he was going to show up here.

Anyway, the Secret Service arrived and pretty much took everything over. We were pretty much chased off (because obviously their profiling showed that Boy Scouts are high-risk for assassinations). The tents we put up for the event had to be taken down and moved for reasons that I still don't know. It was pretty clear who was running the show, it was them. And given their attitudes, I could easily see them not giving a rat's ass about shrubbary.

At any rate, the whole thing left a sour taste in my mouth (the secret service was only one of the reasons, the other was a ceremony that was suppose to honor WWI veterans became a political campaign rally). I could see where this type of security detail would leave a sour taste in the mouths of others.

But my point is, this is not a Bush thing necessarily, but a Secret Service thing. They would have to be reeled in specifically (which happend with JFK, and we all know what happened there, so there may be reluctance to call the Secret Service's judgment into question). I know Clinton had a habit of stopping by sporting events with little advance warning, and the Secret Service would tow vehicles to make that possible. How would like to be leaving, only to find that your car had been towed for no other reason besides that the President decided to show up?

(edited by ges7184 on 26.11.03 1244)
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#19 Posted on 26.11.03 1312.23
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    Originally posted by ges7184
    But my point is, this is not a Bush thing necessarily, but a Secret Service thing. They would have to be reeled in specifically (which happend with JFK, and we all know what happened there, so there may be reluctance to call the Secret Service's judgment into question). I know Clinton had a habit of stopping by sporting events with little advance warning, and the Secret Service would tow vehicles to make that possible. How would like to be leaving, only to find that your car had been towed for no other reason besides that the President decided to show up?

    (edited by ges7184 on 26.11.03 1244)


That'd be a perfectly reasonable explanation, but...

If this is a standard Secret Service thing, then why is this the first time we've heard about it? (He says, as he waits for the conservative wing of the board to screech "liberal media conspiracy".)
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#20 Posted on 26.11.03 1347.15
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The first time we've heard about it? I hear about it all the time. It's no secret, to coin a phrase--paranoia is their specialty. Right now the Secret Service has plenty of legitimate reasons for paranoia, IMO. The current geopolitical situation is plenty hot and bothered. If I were in charge of presidential security and needed to get things done, I'd stomp on the shrubberies without a second thought. This whole tale sounds somewhat overgrown in any case--don't tell me someone doesn't have a set of pruning shears to grind.

But it might be a nice gesture for George W. to send Liz a few bare-root roses for Christmas.

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