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|  #21 Posted on 7.11.03 1629.23
Reposted on: 7.11.10 1630.45 | OFB and Grimis, really why not. I would prefer they didn't have frontline duty also, but I feel I may be an anachronism. If they want to and can meet all the standards necessary, I am not sure what we base not allowing them to on. The problem I see really isn't qualification or lack of ability but us men. We recoil in horror at sexual abuse, etc. I know I do. It offends our sensibilities but that is not a good enough reason.
Women served with distinction in the Soviet army during WWII and I believe also in the Israeli army. If it is what they really want and are fully aware of the posible consequences, then they probably should. | Michrome
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| #22 Posted on 7.11.03 1636.15
Reposted on: 7.11.10 1638.53 | | I know girls in the Israeli army, and while they serve well and get mad when I say this, I oppose women on the front lines as well. Recently Israel concluded a study that showed that women reacted to firefights far differently than the men did, and did not perform at the level of the men. The results of the study and analysis were very clear. In addition, Israel has found that men act differently when fighting near women, and tend to be so overprotective that they may compromise their missions. Leaving the "women and children" alone when it comes to war has been a generally accepted thing for hundreds of years. With women in the military now, it becomes harder to justify this distinction. | DrDirt
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| #23 Posted on 7.11.03 1711.53
Reposted on: 7.11.10 1714.00 | Originally posted by Michrome
I know girls in the Israeli army, and while they serve well and get mad when I say this, I oppose women on the front lines as well. Recently Israel concluded a study that showed that women reacted to firefights far differently than the men did, and did not perform at the level of the men. The results of the study and analysis were very clear. In addition, Israel has found that men act differently when fighting near women, and tend to be so overprotective that they may compromise their missions. Leaving the "women and children" alone when it comes to war has been a generally accepted thing for hundreds of years. With women in the military now, it becomes harder to justify this distinction.
The study you cite is what I am speaking to in this area. If they are a liability in a firefight, the shouldn't be in that position. But that still leaves aviation and navy frontline positions that they may excel in. Or they may not. I don't know. Your statement about overprotective men is what I was talking about. They may be fine but I as aman may have a problem difficult to overcome. And I would correct youon one thing. Women and children throughout history followed armies. Our neat and clean version of leave the family at home is relatively recent. Typically it was the grunts families but they did. | CRZ
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| #24 Posted on 7.11.03 1808.07
Reposted on: 7.11.10 1810.53 | Originally posted by Leroy
If Lefties posting here have to stop talking about the Florida election, than I think Republicans posting have to stop talking about the Clinton erections.
1. Of course I agree with this generally...
2. ...but in the context of this thread about the Reagans TV show movie, at least the link is relevant. Don't know about posting the ENTIRE excerpt, tho' | drjayphd
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| #25 Posted on 7.11.03 2110.04
Reposted on: 7.11.10 2112.37 | First, an editorial cartoon I thought was pretty good:
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Also, about the Jessica Lynch movie... considering the kind of coverage the original story got, you can't say you're surprised by it. Millions of people are going to watch it (because they're sheep... which I sorely doubt applies to anyone here) and it's going to be utterly useless and probably forgotten in the near future. Such is life. (sigh) Now if only they coulda done the same thing with the mini-series... although I'm still not sure how it's any more acceptable to flog someone when they're dead. I don't know how far gone Reagan may be (although I know what Alzheimer's can do... both my paternal grandparents had it) but I'm sure he can still respond to someone telling him about it. | MoeGates
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| #26 Posted on 7.11.03 2315.30
Reposted on: 7.11.10 2315.32 | An interesting editorial about the subject:
Click Here (forward.com)
For those of you who don't know, the Forward has historically been the unofficial Jewish "paper of record." I don't know how much that's true anymore (this is a reputation is got back when it was a Socialist Daily - in Yiddish), but it's still a very good paper, and you can generally count on it not only for an interesting perspective (and every once-in-a-while breaking news) on Middle-Eastern affairs and Jewish issues, but usually for the issues of the day as well. It's also where you will generally find the English translations of noteworthy editorials by Middle-Eastern (mostly Israeli) public figures. | The Thrill
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| #27 Posted on 10.11.03 0800.34
Reposted on: 10.11.10 0800.42 | Originally posted by DrDirt
And I think they would pull it to HBO, not Showtime.
But ain't Showtime owned by Viacom...the same megacorp what owns CBS? Let's check the scrolling graphic on Viacom's home page...wait for it...
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*sees Showtime logo scroll by* Yep, guess so. | DrDirt
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| #28 Posted on 10.11.03 0839.24
Reposted on: 10.11.10 0841.42 | Originally posted by The Thrill
Originally posted by DrDirt
And I think they would pull it to HBO, not Showtime.
But ain't Showtime owned by Viacom...the same megacorp what owns CBS? Let's check the scrolling graphic on Viacom's home page...wait for it...
(image removed)
*sees Showtime logo scroll by* Yep, guess so.
Thrill, I stand corrected. By the way, did any Weiners watch the Lynch movie? I passed. | CRZ
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| #29 Posted on 10.11.03 1312.14
Reposted on: 10.11.10 1314.31 | What IS this "The New TNN?"
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