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Doc_whiskey
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#1 Posted on 5.11.03 1139.31
Reposted on: 5.11.10 1142.11
Taken from ESPN.com
AFC
Baltimore A-
Buffalo C
Cincinnati B+
Cleveland C-
Denver C
Houston B-
Indianapolis A
Jacksonville D
Kansas City A+
Miami C
New England A+
New York Jets C-
Oakland F
Pittsburgh D
San Diego F
Tennesse A

NFC
Arizona C-
Atlanta F
Carolina A-
Chicago D+
Dallas A
Detroit D
Green Bay C-
Minnesota A-
New Orleans C
New York Giants C+
Philadelphia C+
San Fransisco C
St. Louis B
Seattle B+
Tampa Bay C-
Washington D+

I am pretty much in agreement with grades except I would give Carolina an A since they were supposed to be in last place this year, and I would give Indy an A+ since they are the only team I can see competing with KC right now. I think Denver deserves higher than a C because if it wasnt for injuries, they'd probably have one or two more wins. I also think an A- may be a little high for Baltimore.
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#2 Posted on 5.11.03 1230.47
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I'm also in agreement with most of the grades. I also think Indy deserves an A+, but I also think New England can definitely compete with Kansas City due to the incredible job done by Bill Belichick this year. D+ is low for Chicago since they're slowly turning things around, even if it's against weaker teams. C for Miami is also low; they probably deserve somewhere along the Bs. Everyone else ESPN pretty much has fairly graded.
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#3 Posted on 5.11.03 1440.28
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    Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
    I think Denver deserves higher than a C because if it wasnt for injuries, they'd probably have one or two more wins.



Injuries or not, Shanahan has earned his team's C for them with his coaching in the last two games......and Deltha O'Neal has earned himself a one way ticket to ArenaBall as far as I am concerned......
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#4 Posted on 5.11.03 1516.35
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This is probably as good as time as any to revisit my fearless predictions:

AFC EAST
Miami
New England
Buffalo
New York

Not bad, insofar as I knew the Jets would be bad.

AFC NORTH
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
Cleveland
Cincinnati

LET'S GO RAVENS!!!!!! LET'S GO RAVENS!!!!!!

Of course, nobody thought the Steelers would choke like this.

AFC SOUTH
Tennessee
Indianapolis
Jacksonville
Houston

Almost dead on...

AFC WEST
Oakland
San Diego
Denver
Kansas City

Well, THIS was quite the Snafu.


NFC EAST
Philadelphia
New York
Washington
Dallas

I don't think anybody thought Dallas would be this good this quick

NFC NORTH
Green Bay
Minnesota
Chicago
Detroit

This wasn't that bad. Minnesota and Green Bay are both good teams.

NFC SOUTH
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Atlanta
Carolina
Whoops

NFC WEST
San Francisco
St. Louis
Seattle
Arizona
Whoops again

SUPER BOWL XXXVIII CHAMPION and shameless homer pick: Baltimore

And I stick by them, because it looks like I might be vindicated.
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#5 Posted on 5.11.03 1639.43
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My turn!

AFC East
New England
Miami
Buffalo
NY Jets

Damn I'm smooth.

AFC North
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Cleveland
Cincinnati

Baltimore in first actually doesn't surprise me too much, but Cincy only being two games behind (plus holding the tiebreaker so far) does.

AFC South
Indianapolis
Tennessee
Jacksonville
Houston

Spot on for the top two.

AFC West
Oakland
Kansas City
Denver
San Diego

Except for SD in the cellar, pretty much off on my home team's division.

AFC Wild Cards
Kansas City
Miami

Can't believe how much I underestimated Tennessee.

NFC East
Philadelphia
NY Giants
Washington
Dallas

Who knew?

NFC North
Green Bay
Minnesota
Detroit
Chicago

GB could still conceivably finish first if Minny goes on a choke streak. . .which is dubious.

NFC South
Tampa Bay
Atlanta
Carolina
New Orleans

Can't believe I thought Doug Johnson could carry them.

NFC West
Seattle
St. Louis
San Francisco
Arizona

Damn I'm smooth.

NFC Wild Cards
Atlanta
St. Louis

See comments under NFC South.

Super Bowl XXXVIII
Tampa Bay over New England

As far as the matchup goes, still feasible if Tampa gets its shit together.

(edited by Broncolanche on 5.11.03 1545)
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#6 Posted on 6.11.03 0136.43
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    GB could still conceivably finish first if Minny goes on a choke streak. . .which is dubious.


Yes, since the Vikings have never choked before.....um.....
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#7 Posted on 6.11.03 0841.55
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    Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
    I think Denver deserves higher than a C because if it wasnt for injuries, they'd probably have one or two more wins.


But they HAVE had injuries...you can't rank based on "supposed to" or "what if." Denver's 5-4...that sounds pretty average to me, hence the C.
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#8 Posted on 6.11.03 0842.23
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    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    NFC North
    Green Bay
    Minnesota
    Detroit
    Chicago
    GB could still conceivably finish first if Minny goes on a choke streak. . .which is dubious


*looks at Vikings' last 2 games...both at home*

{Dr. Evil} MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! {/Dr. Evil}

Not laughing at you, Broncolanche, (*mutters something about Terrell Davis*), but seeing the inevitable purple slide always makes a cheesehead's day.
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#9 Posted on 6.11.03 0923.45
Reposted on: 6.11.10 0924.02
Time to DREDGE UP PAST FAILURES! (by the way, I'm much better at Pick'em and Survival than this)

AFC West
Oakland
San Diego
Kansas City
Denver

Umm, so yeah, I don't know the AFC West anymore. I wasn't expecting Oakland to suck as much beefdart as they have, and for David Boston to be the big fat load he's become. Moving on...

AFC North
Pittsburgh
Cleveland
Baltimore
Cincinnati

Wow, all my picks are the drizzling squits, eh? Stupid Jon Kitna needs to die.

AFC South
Tennessee
Indianapolis
Houston
Jacksonville

Almost spot on here, and I'm pretty confident this is how the division will finish out. Jacksonville's the worst team in the league.

AFC East
Buffalo
Miami
New England
J-T-T-S-JETS-JETS-JETS

Didn't think Peerless Price would be such a huge loss for Bledsoe & Co., or that their line would suck so much. Also didn't think Belichek could make so much of so little. The J-T-T-S-JETS-JETS-JETS prediction warms my cruel, twisted heart, though.

Wild Cards - Indianapolis, San Diego
AFC Champion - Oakland

We'll just ignore most of this, eh?

NFC West
St. Louis
San Francisco
Seattle
Arizona

Still could end up like this, but Seattle appears to be at least partially for real.

NFC North
Green Bay
Minnesota
Chicago
Detroit

" " " " " ", " Minnesota " " " " " " " ".

NFC South
Tampa Bay
Carolina
Atlanta
New Orleans

I believed the Panthers would be good. Never imagined THIS good.

NFC East
Philadelphia
New York Giants
Dallas
Washington

Sad thing is, the NFC East STILL could end like this... with all the teams at like 8-8 or somethin. Dallas has passed almost every test so far though, with the exception of that Tampa Bay disaster.

Wild Cards - Minnesota, New York Giants
NFC Champion - New York Giants
Super Bowl - Oakland over NYG

Let's just pretend that Oakland up there was a Kansas City.
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#10 Posted on 6.11.03 1047.26
Reposted on: 6.11.10 1048.32
    Originally posted by Bullitt
      Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
      I think Denver deserves higher than a C because if it wasnt for injuries, they'd probably have one or two more wins.


    But they HAVE had injuries...you can't rank based on "supposed to" or "what if." Denver's 5-4...that sounds pretty average to me, hence the C.


Yes that why the Pats get the A+. They have been hit by the injury bug worst than any other team in the leauge but they are 7-2. I still think after Vick, Rosevelt Colvin is one of the biggest injuries for any team this year.

To me I think a C for Denver is alittle high since all 5 of their wins are from teams under .500 and all 4 of their loses are from teams above .500

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#11 Posted on 6.11.03 1236.56
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AFC East
Miami
Buffalo
New England
NY Jets
*** Well I picked the jets correctly at last, and Miami as a playoff team. New England really surprised me and Buffalo disapoints

AFC North
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Cleveland
Cincinnati
***Oops, Mr.XFL hasn't really had the year of last.

AFC South
Indianapolis
Tennessee
Jacksonville
Houston
*** Ding ding, for the top two. I had a good feeling about Indy this year. Houston has three wins, go figure

AFC West
Oakland
San Diego
Kansas City
Denver
*** Umm yeah lets move on LoL Atleast I didn't put KC last

AFC Wild Cards
San Diego
Buffalo
*** For some reason I really jumped on The Bolts bandwagon

NFC East
Philadelphia
NY Giants
Dallas
Washington
*** Parcells is a football genius. But the rest of the order is pretty spot on. Washington basement as predicted

NFC North
Minnesota
Green Bay
Chicago
Detriot
*** Perfect match! This entire board overestimated GB and underestimated Minnesota. I just looked at Minny's roster and just saw too much talent there even though they got beaten by The Pack. GB is really one of the most inconsistent teams I've seen in recent memory

NFC South
Tampa Bay
Atlanta
New Orleans
Carolina
***Well after bragging in the North I'm back to reality now. With a totally wrong predictions. Putting Carolina last when they are actually firts and putting Atlanta second(oops)

NFC West
San Francisco
St. Louis
Arizona
Seattle
*** Another last placer actually being in first, butthis division is actually darn close

NFC Wild Cards
Atlanta
St. Louis
***The Rams can still make a playoff spot. The Falcons, lets not speak of them

Super Bowl XXXVIII
San Francisco over Indianapolis
***Indy looks strong in the AFC, only second to KC. SF needs to step up, their no great team (maybe Minny) in the NFC so I think it's pretty open there once playoffs are on.
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#12 Posted on 6.11.03 2237.35
Reposted on: 6.11.10 2238.14
Thoughts in italics because I'm laaaaaaaazy.

AFC North
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Cleveland
Cincinnati

...meep. We'll be moving on, shall we?

AFC South
Tennessee
Indianapolis
Jacksonville
Houston

I do have the top 2 teams in the top 2... wrong order, sure, but still...

AFC East
Miami
Buffalo
New England
NY Jets

Well, I was kinda close. I think I'll count having the Jets in last as my moral victory here. :P

AFC West
Denver
Oakland
San Diego
Kansas City

How did I last six whole weeks in the suicide league again?

AFC Wild Cards
Baltimore, Indianapolis

i'm thinkin' these'll still be correct. Of course, either Cleveland or Cincy's gonna have to overtake the Ravens, and can you see EITHER of them doing that? Besides, Tennessee's gonna murdalize the Colts.

NFC North
Green Bay
Minnesota
Detroit
Chicago

Close enough... I say this'll be the final standings, but only because I'm stubborn.

NFC South
Tampa Bay
Atlanta
New Orleans
Carolina

I may be stubborn, but I'm not a freakin' MORON. John Fox, I believe in ye. And I knew Stephen Davis was that damn good... I'm allowed to forget these things.

NFC East
NY Giants
Philadelphia
Washington
Dallas

If we're going off of history to say that Parcells will have the Cowboys in the playoffs next season, I STILL maintain that I can use that history to say that Dallas was supposed to lay down to us. But I'm still thinking the Giants will lead the Eagles at the end of the season. You can't believe that our special teams will be THAT fucked up.

NFC West
San Francisco
St. Louis
Seattle
Arizona

See? Arizona's in last! That's gotta count for something!

NFC Wild Cards
Philadelphia, Atlanta

Super Bowl XXXVIII
Tennessee d. Green Bay

Still entirely possible, as far as the Super Bowl goes. As for the wild cards... anyone else think Reeves might not make 200 wins?
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#13 Posted on 7.11.03 0827.51
Reposted on: 7.11.10 0828.20
Miami deserves a D+ for the way they have played at home.Also the defense isn't as strong as it used to be is it?The problem is they let these teams hang around to end and the Fish lose by a field goal or a last second play.Also the passing game needs to be addressed in the off-season,Chrs Chambers is not the man.Instead of getting a shut-down DB(Sammy Knight-----who has played well,dont get me wrong there.)they should have went after a big reciever(Peerlice Price?) to accent Chambers.Anyway they got Derrius Thompson from the Skins and he hasnt turned heads,which is what I expected.Randy McMichael may be the bright-spot they can build on.Might he be the future Tony Gonzalez?

(edited by Melon' Head on 7.11.03 0628)
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#14 Posted on 7.11.03 1100.13
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I don't know what Miami's cap situation looks like next year, but Terrell Owens might be available.
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#15 Posted on 10.11.03 1255.15
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    Originally posted by James F'n X
    Stupid Jon Kitna needs to die.



I'm happy as a clam. 'Bout time we shook the reputation and while Kitna's not the most stand-out QB in the league, he'd doing a solid job. I'll agree with the "B+" on the report card for now, but I'm hoping that gets revised upwards as Marvin Lewis continues his path to coach of the year.
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#16 Posted on 10.11.03 1604.30
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    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    I don't know what Miami's cap situation looks like next year, but Terrell Owens might be available.


We do have some playmakers on the team (Ricky Williams, Chambers, McMichael) - our main problem, and where money should be spent, is the offensive line. They aren't blocking anyone, Ricky has no room to run, and everyone saw how little time Griese's had to throw.
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