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#1 Posted on 20.10.03 0950.56
Reposted on: 20.10.10 0951.24
Mavs send LaFrentz, first-round pick to Celtics
08:08 AM CDT on Monday, October 20, 2003
By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News
The Mavericks continued to reshape their roster early Monday when they
acquired Antoine Walker and Tony Delk from the Boston Celtics, president of
basketball operations Donnie Nelson said.
Headed to Boston are Raef LaFrentz and two players acquired in the
off-season trade with Golden State, Jiri Welsch and Chris Mills. The
Mavericks also included their 2004 first-round draft pick to sweeten the
deal.
Walker is a strong-scoring forward who could create a logjam in the front
court - unless another deal is in the works. He, Dirk Nowitzki and Antawn
Jamison, not to mention Eduardo Najera, would be splitting up playing time
at the two forward positions.
Delk will shore up the Mavericks at point guard. He's been a part-time
starter in the league for several years and will give the team an insurance
policy since the only proven point guards on the team were starter Steve
Nash and backup Travis Best.
The deal makes sense from a financial standpoint for the Mavericks, who have
the third-highest payroll in the NBA. Walker has a maximum contract that
ends after the 2004-05 season. He will earn $13.5 million this season and
$14.625 million next season.
LaFrentz signed a seven-year, $69-million deal before last season. With
Delk's deal added in, the Mavericks will be relieving themselves of about
$35 million in salary over the life of all the contracts.
The trade talks got hot on Sunday and the deal was finalized early Monday
morning after the Mavericks returned to Dallas from a preseason game in San
Antonio.


As a Celtics fan, all I can say is ... BLAAAAAH.

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#2 Posted on 20.10.03 1037.16
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Raef LaFrentz?

Boo.
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#3 Posted on 20.10.03 1039.47
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Celtics.com does not mention the trade, but ESPN.com says Cuban has confirmed the trade and it is only awaiting league approval. My comment in regards to this: Is Danny Ainge using Grady Little's hatred in order to slip this monstrosity of a trade under the radar? Raef fucking Lafrentz? Walker could be trouble, but at the very worst he was coming off the cap in 2 years. Now we're stuck with White Man Can't Play for 5 years? Was Fred Roberts too busy to return to Boston? At least if I saw Jamison or Nash returning to Boston for Walker and Delk, I'd say its a good move. But Chris Mills, Jiri Walsch (who the fuck is he?), and Raef Lafrentz (plus Dallas' #1 which is worthless anyway)? Well, after 2 good years, back to the lottery we go.
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#4 Posted on 20.10.03 1043.49
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I remember a couple of years ago when they traded for Van Exel...I was a bit skeptical considering they all ready had two all stars at guard in Finley and Nash. But it obviously worked out for them...I guess the question is, who comes off the bench with those three all star forwards?? Does Jamison play center? Or does *gulp* Bradley? It'll be interesting to see how they work it out.

(edited by chuckc14 on 20.10.03 1045)
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#5 Posted on 20.10.03 1144.39
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    ...(plus Dallas' #1 which is worthless anyway)
Are you refering to Dallas' 2004 first round draft pick? Why is that worthless?
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#6 Posted on 20.10.03 1152.28
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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      ...(plus Dallas' #1 which is worthless anyway)
    Are you refering to Dallas' 2004 first round draft pick? Why is that worthless?



The odds are Dallas will be having a first rounder that is quite late. Like one of the last picks late. Dallas has a young nucleus, so the draft pick wouldn't really matter to them anyway.
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#7 Posted on 20.10.03 1159.19
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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      ...(plus Dallas' #1 which is worthless anyway)
    Are you refering to Dallas' 2004 first round draft pick? Why is that worthless?






At best, it'll be the 25th pick in the draft, thus a guy who will make minimal impact in the NBA initially who has to be given (due to the Collective Bargaining Agreement) a 3 year guaranteed contract. That just adds onto the salary cap woes that the extra years LaFrenz has on his contract compared to Walker's does to the Celtics.
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#8 Posted on 20.10.03 1417.32
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    At best, it'll be the 25th pick in the draft, thus a guy who will make minimal impact in the NBA initially who has to be given (due to the Collective Bargaining Agreement) a 3 year guaranteed contract. That just adds onto the salary cap woes that the extra years
Knowing the Celts luck, they'll package the Mavs pick and their lottery pick for the # 1 pick in the draft to take whichever 18-year old Slovakian flavor of the month with the top pick. His arm will fall off immediately after signing the contract.
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#9 Posted on 21.10.03 0435.05
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I'm not too sure how I feel about this trade. I think losing Delk hurts just as much, if not more than losing Employee Number 8. It'll be interesting to see how Pierce does this season. As for Raef, he has a chance to be absolutely dominant in the East. Brad Miller isn't half the player Raef is, but yet he was highly coveted by every team in the West. LaFrentz could blow up (with a huge emphasis on the "could"). At least it'll be interesting.

On another note, it's funny to watch all the West teams scramble to try to create a lineup that can hang with the Lakeshow. Key word there is "try".
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#10 Posted on 22.10.03 0050.26
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Good God, I knew that Walker had lost a step, but has he gotten so poor that he can be dealt for Raef LaFrentz???

The weakness of the Eastern Conference notwithstanding, Raef will suck. He will suck hard and suck long. I swear, the NBA is the only organization this side of WWE that keeps giving chances to big tall guys that clearly can't hack it.


    On another note, it's funny to watch all the West teams scramble to try to create a lineup that can hang with the Lakeshow. Key word there is "try".


I dunno...Walker, Dirk, Jamieson, Nash and Finley plus Najera and Shawn Bradley in the mix. That's a much deeper lineup than Shaq Daddy, Mailman, Glove and Rapist.

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#11 Posted on 22.10.03 0332.08
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    I dunno...Walker, Dirk, Jamieson, Nash and Finley plus Najera and Shawn Bradley in the mix. That's a much deeper lineup than Shaq Daddy, Mailman, Glove and Rapist.





Yeah, it's deeper, but is it better?

Honestly, Walker might feel right at home in "Shoot first, ask questions later land", but he's still gonna be clankin it left and right. That's the difference between him and a Nash, Finley, or Nowitzki--they make their shots. Jamison...I never liked that trade for the Mavs. I might be proven wrong because I haven't seen Jamison play much, but he just doesn't seem to be the right fit for their offense. Najera? Bradley? Please, Shaq would eat them both. They're nothing more than role players, and mediocre ones at that. Not that I wouldn't love to see them knock off the Lakers in the playoffs. ;-)

(edited by HitTheSnoozeButton on 22.10.03 0432)
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#12 Posted on 22.10.03 1432.10
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How many balls are the Mavs going to play with?
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#13 Posted on 22.10.03 2110.39
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    Originally posted by HitTheSnoozeButton
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      I dunno...Walker, Dirk, Jamieson, Nash and Finley plus Najera and Shawn Bradley in the mix. That's a much deeper lineup than Shaq Daddy, Mailman, Glove and Rapist.





    Yeah, it's deeper, but is it better?

    Honestly, Walker might feel right at home in "Shoot first, ask questions later land", but he's still gonna be clankin it left and right. That's the difference between him and a Nash, Finley, or Nowitzki--they make their shots. Jamison...I never liked that trade for the Mavs. I might be proven wrong because I haven't seen Jamison play much, but he just doesn't seem to be the right fit for their offense. Najera? Bradley? Please, Shaq would eat them both. They're nothing more than role players, and mediocre ones at that. Not that I wouldn't love to see them knock off the Lakers in the playoffs. ;-)

    (edited by HitTheSnoozeButton on 22.10.03 0432)


Maybe they're just following the Clippers Formula For Winning in the West:

1. Stockpile forwards.
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