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Texas Kelly
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#1 Posted on 30.9.03 1139.25
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I'm facing a big dilemma...

I'm up against a "blood rival" in my Yahoo fantasy league this week (I'm 2-1-1, in fourth place and have a chance to move up a couple of spots because of matchups) and have a huge quandary on my hands.

Peyton Manning is my starting quarterback. As most of you probably know, he's coming off a huge six-TD night against the Saints. But he's facing my Bucs down in Tampa on Monday next week, and I know in my heart of hearts he's going to get killed.

Until yesterday, Kyle Boller was my backup, and he has the week off. I managed to pick up the pride of Detroit, Joey Harrington, off the waiver wire. The Lions are traveling to San Francisco this weekend, and while the Niners are going to come out pissed after getting thumped by Minnesota on Sunday, that game also showed once and for all that they can't defend to save their lives.

So who do I go with... Manning or Harrington?

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#2 Posted on 30.9.03 1218.28
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Has to be Manning. More consistent over the longterm than Harrington. Manning is a safer bet, but you could wind up with more points from a great game from Harrington.

Go with Manning though.
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#3 Posted on 30.9.03 1229.35
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Manning over Harrington this week and every week this year unless Peyton is on a bye.....
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#4 Posted on 30.9.03 1333.08
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If you've got a guy like Peyton Manning, you can't bench him unless you've got another guy on his level on your team. You've gotta figure even against Tampa (esp. with James' status up in the air, thus no real running game) he's good for at least 200 yards and a couple of TDs. On the other hand, that's a good game for Harrington, who unlike Gus Frerotte on Sunday does not have a Randy Moss on his team to make him look better than he is. Manning's worst case scenario isn't much less than Harrington's best, so there's no way you take the chance. Play Manning.
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#5 Posted on 30.9.03 1554.36
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Absoltely Manning. No question. No Harrington. Nope.
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#6 Posted on 30.9.03 1854.39
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Go with Harrington. He's facing Marriucci's old team SF who were lit up by Gus Ferrotte last week. If nothing else you will get an average outing. Manning on the other hand throws a lot of interceptions against big time match-ups. Maybe, the fact that he is facing a Defense similar in style to his own will help him with his reads, but I don't see it. Especially if Edge James is still down, with no running game Manning is meat.
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#7 Posted on 2.10.03 1215.30
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Start Peyton. I'm hearing that he may be having shoulder problems (not confirmed by Harrington or Mariucci). Who else is available on the wire?
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#8 Posted on 2.10.03 1221.14
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Whitebacon: The only other starters available who are playing this week are Kitna, Kordell, and Couch (who I wouldn't be able to pick up until Saturday).
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#9 Posted on 2.10.03 1223.13
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Start Manning.
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#10 Posted on 2.10.03 1343.07
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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Whitebacon: The only other starters available who are playing this week are Kitna, Kordell, and Couch (who I wouldn't be able to pick up until Saturday).


If you ever start any of those guys, forget it. Your fantasy team is dead.
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#11 Posted on 2.10.03 1351.42
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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Whitebacon: The only other starters available who are playing this week are Kitna, Kordell, and Couch (who I wouldn't be able to pick up until Saturday).


Here are Hector & Victor's projections (with comments) from ESPN Insider. Hope they help.

9. Tim Couch - Named the starter - 17 points
15. Kordell Stewart - Running totals make him valuable in fantasy - 15 points
18. Joey Harrington - Not worth the risk on the road - 13 points
20. Jon Kitna - Bills allow fifth-fewest FFL points to QBs - 12 points
25. Peyton Manning - Downgrade: Bucs allow the fewest FFL points to QBs this season (5.7 per game) - 11 points

So according to H&V you should go with Harrington and try to pick up Couch.
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#12 Posted on 4.10.03 1453.54
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Originally posted by Texas Kelly
      Whitebacon: The only other starters available who are playing this week are Kitna, Kordell, and Couch (who I wouldn't be able to pick up until Saturday).


    Here are Hector & Victor's projections (with comments) from ESPN Insider. Hope they help.

    9. Tim Couch - Named the starter - 17 points
    15. Kordell Stewart - Running totals make him valuable in fantasy - 15 points
    18. Joey Harrington - Not worth the risk on the road - 13 points
    20. Jon Kitna - Bills allow fifth-fewest FFL points to QBs - 12 points
    25. Peyton Manning - Downgrade: Bucs allow the fewest FFL points to QBs this season (5.7 per game) - 11 points

    So according to H&V you should go with Harrington and try to pick up Couch.



Gah... any other news on H&V projections? Namely, for Brad Johnson? They shoulda NEVER made them Insider-only, if ya ask me... (Although I suppose my reaction proves their point...)
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#13 Posted on 4.10.03 1536.28
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Tim Couch is also going to be on the shortest leash out of everyone mentioned. Holcomb TORCHED Pitt. in the playoff meeting last year, and everyone in Cleveland remembers that. I'd still start Peyton.


On a side note, I thought I'd cancelled my ESPN Insider subscription before my free trial was over. I got an issue of ESPN the Magazine today, which was an added bonus to the Insider subscription. Turns out I've had Insider for the last month and did not know it.
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#14 Posted on 6.10.03 0810.38
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Well, against my better judgment, I stuck with Manning, but it's probably not going to matter. Thanks to Portis having a hot day and Cleveland not rolling over, I'm down 100-80 going into tonight, which means I need at least a 3 TD performance with no mistakes from Manning to win (fat chance)...
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#15 Posted on 6.10.03 0826.19
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    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    Tim Couch is also going to be on the shortest leash out of everyone mentioned. Holcomb TORCHED Pitt. in the playoff meeting last year, and everyone in Cleveland remembers that. I'd still start Peyton.


    On a side note, I thought I'd cancelled my ESPN Insider subscription before my free trial was over. I got an issue of ESPN the Magazine today, which was an added bonus to the Insider subscription. Turns out I've had Insider for the last month and did not know it.




Tim Couch should be the starter now.Not only did he torch Pitt and run for a score he also got the win.There should be no QB controversy!Couch should be the guy!(I knew I should have used him this week over Trent Green)
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#16 Posted on 6.10.03 0958.45
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    Originally posted by Melon' Head
    Tim Couch should be the starter now.Not only did he torch Pitt and run for a score he also got the win.There should be no QB controversy!Couch should be the guy!(I knew I should have used him this week over Trent Green)


Pittsburgh has a weak pass D, for what it's worth.

(edited by Broncolanche on 6.10.03 0859)
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#17 Posted on 6.10.03 1009.39
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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Well, against my better judgment, I stuck with Manning, but it's probably not going to matter. Thanks to Portis having a hot day and Cleveland not rolling over, I'm down 100-80 going into tonight, which means I need at least a 3 TD performance with no mistakes from Manning to win (fat chance)...


Well, picking Harrington would have definitely killed you. At least you have a chance with Manning.
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#18 Posted on 6.10.03 1052.02
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Dig this: I'm currently up 66.72-48.89 in my non-Wiener league matchup, and the guy I'm facing has Manning and Tampa's D. As long as he doesn't net more than 17.83 points tonight, I'm good for another victory.

(edited by Broncolanche on 6.10.03 0952)
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#19 Posted on 7.10.03 0950.20
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Double whammy.

Tampa chokes and loses the game in OT (and yes, while the officials' calls at the end were total crap, there's no way the D should have blown the lead to begin with).

Manning gets me... 17 points, three short.

God fucking damnit.
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