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#1 Posted on 12.7.03 1446.20
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Hello all -

I would like to say something about scott keith. I read him. I read his rants everytime they are posted on 411. I dont always agree with them, and I find that he hates EVERYTHING, but, I read them, everytime. You know you do too. So lets give the guy some credit for once. I am not trying to draw any cheap heat here either, but I see him gettng bagged everywhere, and I think we should all admit, love or hate, we read him. He is the IWC's #1 most guilty pleasure.

I also agree that RD reynolds should have made the IWC 100.

I also think that the Toronto fans booing Zach Gowan was funny.

I also miss Billy Red Lyons.

Thats all.

Thanks for letting me vent.
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#2 Posted on 12.7.03 1448.55
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    Originally posted by tsmstu
    Hello all -

    I would like to say something about scott keith. I read him. I read his rants everytime they are posted on 411. I dont always agree with them, and I find that he hates EVERYTHING, but, I read them, everytime. You know you do too. So lets give the guy some credit for once. I am not trying to draw any cheap heat here either, but I see him gettng bagged everywhere, and I think we should all admit, love or hate, we read him. He is the IWC's #1 most guilty pleasure.

    I also agree that RD reynolds should have made the IWC 100.

    I also think that the Toronto fans booing Zach Gowan was funny.

    I also miss Billy Red Lyons.

    Thats all.

    Thanks for letting me vent.



Scott, is that you?

EDIT~Just to add a little real content to this post, let me say that Scott Keith threads usually go in the "Site Bashing" forum, just for your own info.

(edited by KevinKellyisFNHardcore on 12.7.03 1305)
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#3 Posted on 12.7.03 1541.57
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Lemme preface this by saying, I'm not a huge Keith fan. His rants are well-written, with occasionaly over-reliance on inside jokes (which, in my opinion, hurt his recent book). I rarely agree with a lot of his opinions in wrestling, but hey, we're too different people, with two different tastes. I also had issues with some of the factual errors in his last book.

However, the guy gave me a hell of a compliment on my writing once on his website, when he had no reason to, so I have trouble jumping on the "Bash Keith" bandwagon.

If Scott Keith really wants to impress me (Which he doesn't, why would he?). He can finish the fiction story he started on Rantsylvania, How I Spent My Armageddon.

(If you want to check it out yourself, click here. and scroll halfway down the page. Your mileage may vary, but I enjoyed it quite a bit)

It had nothing to do with wrestling, so no natural biases, it contained historical and fictional characters, and was quite the enjoyable read. It was very funny, but not so much as to bog down the actual story. In fact, my only complaint, is that it's quite derivative of Douglas Adams' work. Keith realized this, and refused to make apologies for it, as it stood up well on its own as a starting work. Of course, this may be influenced by the fact that I am quite obviously a big Adams fan.


If Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett can write a heavily Douglas Adams influenced story (Good Omens), get it published, and have some success with it, I fail to see why Keith shouldn't give it a shot. Wrestling's popularity is dying, and Keith obviously has an "in" with a publisher. It wouldn't hurt to write out the whole friggin' thing.

And those are my $.02
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#4 Posted on 12.7.03 1546.15
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    Originally posted by tsmstu
    Hello all -

    I would like to say something about scott keith. I read him. I read his rants everytime they are posted on 411. I dont always agree with them, and I find that he hates EVERYTHING, but, I read them, everytime. You know you do too. So lets give the guy some credit for once. I am not trying to draw any cheap heat here either, but I see him gettng bagged everywhere, and I think we should all admit, love or hate, we read him. He is the IWC's #1 most guilty pleasure.

    I also agree that RD reynolds should have made the IWC 100.

    I also think that the Toronto fans booing Zach Gowan was funny.

    I also miss Billy Red Lyons.

    Thats all.

    Thanks for letting me vent.



Nah I hate Scott Keith. So I can say I hate him and I don't read him. But, thats just me, and I usually only read 1Wrestling.

(edited by XPacArmy on 12.7.03 1646)
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#5 Posted on 12.7.03 1614.03
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I'd just like to say that I don't think I've ever read anything Scott Keith has ever written unless it was quoted here. That is all.
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#6 Posted on 12.7.03 1623.56
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I usually only read them if a show is REALLY BAD because I know that's when he should be able to come up with good material.

I think some people watch a show, read the rant, and then form an opinion on what they watched.

If you just take it with a grain of salt as entertainment, no harm no foul, I say.
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#7 Posted on 12.7.03 2009.34
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Scott must get quite a kick from all the threads about him on this board.
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#8 Posted on 12.7.03 2128.06
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Who is this Scottt Keith?
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#9 Posted on 12.7.03 2232.06
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I agree that he is a well-read writer, or else all the criticisms on this board would be worthless, because NO ONE would know who he is.

I enjoy his stuff for the most part. Is there usually a negative tone to it? Sure. But I don't think there's anything wrong with reading someone else's opinion, and then judging for yourself if the match or show in question is really THAT negative.
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#10 Posted on 13.7.03 0634.45
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Who is this Scottt Keith?


If you're serious, JayJayDean, he's a guy who has been writing about wresting on Usenet and the Internet for a quite a few years, much like our delightful Host Christopher Robert Zimmerman.

Back in the dark ages, the only "smart" wrestling writing came out of Scott Keith, CRZ, Bob Ryder, Mike Samuda, Rick Scaia, Al Isaacs and a few others. And all of them were good, with different styles. Scott and CRZ were always known as recappers, but very different. Many perceive SKeith as being negative with his "Rants" (His site used to be Rantsyvania). I think the loyal fans of one writer or another then to want to start battles over their writer from time to time, which is why you see stuff here (and over at other sites.) No big deal. I read them, laugh at them often, and then click "Mark forum read."

I personally stopped reading Skeith when he stopped being on whatever site Rick Scaia was running (onlineonslaught.com these days). I am one of those who thinks that he is too negative. But that's why different people write. To each his own. Nothing would nake me happier (in the wrestling world, anyway) than CRZ doing recaps again. But I am all for being happy and if he's happy not doing them, I'm ok with that. But I love his work.
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#11 Posted on 13.7.03 0650.46
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I believe he's trying to be wittty.
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#12 Posted on 13.7.03 1337.01
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I never understood the out and out hatred for the man. He's probably the most harmless and unwitty person on the net. Maybe that's why so many net writers and net nerds like to bash him. I always thought that Scott's writing was like a McDonald's chesseburger -- it's bland, pretty much unoffensive, so it apeals to a broad section of wrestling readers ... if that makes any sense. Plus he's got such a vast body of work out there now it can be handy for a quick reference. The main knock I have against him is I think that he borrows from The Meltz a little too much.

(edited by BigDaddyLoco on 13.7.03 1437)
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#13 Posted on 13.7.03 2004.09
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Thanks MMM for posting that link. I had wondered if those stories were still available somewhere on the net, and really didn't want to have to write him and ask ;)
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#14 Posted on 13.7.03 2209.10
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I put more stock in the writings of J. Edgar Hoover and his Masters of Deceit book about communism in the 1950s than Scott Keith.

That is all.
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#15 Posted on 14.7.03 0950.41
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Who is this Scottt Keith?



    Originally posted by CRZ
    I believe he's trying to be wittty.


As usual, CRZ, you are the wind beneath my wings. Welcome back.

(edited by JayJayDean on 14.7.03 0751)
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#16 Posted on 15.7.03 1600.42
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Scooter Keith is a guy who ignores people because he thinks he's to good for them when all he is is a silly internet writer.
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#17 Posted on 15.7.03 1914.12
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Most people are too good for people who want to chat with silly internet writers.
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#18 Posted on 15.7.03 2001.34
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    Originally posted by Bogey316
    Scooter Keith is a guy who ignores people because he thinks he's to good for them when all he is is a silly internet writer.
I have a CRAZY idea. Why don't you talk about something else for a while?
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#19 Posted on 15.7.03 2049.14
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    Originally posted by CRZ

      Originally posted by Bogey316
      Scooter Keith is a guy who ignores people because he thinks he's to good for them when all he is is a silly internet writer.
    I have a CRAZY idea. Why don't you talk about something else for a while?


I think the world would stop turning if that happened.
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#20 Posted on 16.7.03 1703.45
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Gee, EXCUSE me for talking about Scooter Keith in a Scooter Keith thread. What an ass am I...
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