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#1 Posted on 5.7.03 0038.12
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Don't how many have read this but I found it a bit interesting and wanted your thoughts. A radio interview with "Bubba the Love Sponge":

http://www.wrestlezone.com/articles/59259932.php

Bubba always plays the Mr. America music when Hogan is about to come on, this time he plays it and Hogan comes on and says to turn that shit off and that he doesn't want to hear it.

They talk for a bit about non-wrestling crap, and then Hogan said he was upset with the way Vince handled Mr. America. Hogan says "who cares" and "I'm going back to Japan." Then he confirms that he's gone from WWE, never to re-appear.

Hogan said he might build his own federation, and have Bubba wrestle in it.

Bubba then tries to get Hogan to open up, by saying that Triple H has his head far up Vince McMahon's ass and that Hogan barely got a pay day for WMXIX. Hogan tried to avoid those topics and said he didn't want to comment. He just kept saying he's going to Japan. He said that he can go and wrestle one day in Japan, and it would equal four or five SmackDowns.

Bubba then asks Hogan if its true that Vince has done this creative bullshit to him twice, and Hogan confirms. Hogan said Vince didn't understand that Hulkamania was like a different kind of gimmick. It had a natural life expectancy and it can't be killed off. He said Vince wanted to really cut it off, but it kept living in spite of Vince. Hulk said he could still potentially one day walk back into WWE and have an attorney and say that there is some loophole in his contract allows him to come back, and that's how he would come back from a creative standpoint.

Hogan said working for Vince got to be frustrating and that he chose to walk away while he was still on good terms with the company. He said he wouldn't have minded doing jobs for people like Brock or Kurt, but Vince wouldn't let him. Hogan said he loved the business. Then he said that Vince wants to "go against the grain" and he does not. He said they need to go with what works right now, and Vince is not doing that.

Bubba says that there is a couple of cancers within the WWE talent and higher ups. Hogan says not to go there, and that at the end of the day Vince still makes the decisions. Hogan kept it alive, but at the end of the day Vince made the decision to go against the grain.

Next, Bubba asks why Triple H has been practically undefeated for two years. Hogan says that's a damn good question. He said that if numbers in the ratings are good for Triple H's segments, then Vince keeps that. But Vince knows that if he were to suddenly change it, ratings might be good that week, but then the next week they could be in the toilet.

Bubba says "well you don't work there anymore." He continues by saying that the boys in the back, and the ones that he speaks to say that Triple H runs the whole show and that no one can stand him. The boys in the back all believe that Triple H needs to give up the belt and let someone kick his ass. He says Triple H controls the business at this point. (By the way, the wrestlers Bubba talks to on the radio on a regular basis are: Chris Jericho, Christian, Edge, Test, Hogan, and Big Show.)

Hogan says that its not entirely true everything we hear about Triple H's influence. He said that Vince has been telling him to work a certain way.

Bubba said he remembered when Vince used to tell Hogan to only go down on one knee when he was hit in the back. He says that taking bumps on one leg is just not working now for Triple H like it worked for Hogan back in the day.

Hogan said he was going to make more money in Japan than his WMXIX pay off, and he laughed.

Then Hogan says that he's trying to be nice, and that everyone makes their own deal. He then says "Triple H has been nothing but good to me."

Hogan said the WWE higher ups and creatives all are very opinionated about him, Brock, Kurt, and Triple H. He says you should never tell Vince your personal opinion on anything. At the end of the day, Vince is doing what he is doing on purpose because he wants WWE to be around in 20 years for the "passing of the torch" and that he knows what he's doing.

He said Shane McMahon now has a new approach when dealing with his father, and that he had to make one because he had heat with his father. Hogan says, "He gets it too."

Hogan says he has a meeting about getting his own television show with some network executives next week.

Hogan tells Bubba they are going to go work out today, and Bubba asks to speak to Linda Hogan and calls her the "BelAir Booker." Linda tells Hogan not to go back to Vince when Bubba asks her too.


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#2 Posted on 5.7.03 0057.57
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    Originally posted by darkmatcher via the interview
    Next, Bubba asks why Triple H has been practically undefeated for two years. Hogan says that's a damn good question.


Hmmmm...I can think of a "damn good question" I'd like to ask Hogan, but I'll just let it go, and say this:

Pot, I'd like you to meet Kettle. Kettle, Pot.
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#3 Posted on 5.7.03 0131.51
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You're interviewing Hulk Hogan, who has just announced he's quit the WWE, and all you want to talk about is HHH?

What a putz.
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#4 Posted on 5.7.03 0202.22
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    Originally posted by Devil's Advocate
    You're interviewing Hulk Hogan, who has just announced he's quit the WWE, and all you want to talk about is HHH?

    What a putz.



Well, it isn't like Hogan isn't on that show weekly anyway. Are you familiar with Bubba's show?

I am sure Hogan wanted to get that HHH hate off his chest and make it known what is going on to the public.
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#5 Posted on 5.7.03 0314.20
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What Hogan did say about doing jobs is actually true. In singles competition, 2 of the 5 people he jobbed too, and the 2 of the cleanest were to Brock and Angle (the other 3 being Rocky, Taker, and Hunter).
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#6 Posted on 5.7.03 0356.50
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    Originally posted by Captain_12_Pack

      Originally posted by darkmatcher via the interview
      Next, Bubba asks why Triple H has been practically undefeated for two years. Hogan says that's a damn good question.


    Hmmmm...I can think of a "damn good question" I'd like to ask Hogan, but I'll just let it go, and say this:

    Pot, I'd like you to meet Kettle. Kettle, Pot.



That's kind of an out of context way to bash the Hulkster. Hogan took it real easy on Hunter and WWE, which is harder than is sounds when you got a 'shock jock' breathing down your neck. He took it easy on WWE in a 'Lets not burn bridges cause all roads lead to Wrestlemania' kinda way.

BTW, and off topic, does WWE put some kind of 'break Kayfaybe' moratorium on the wrestlers for a period of time after they are dropped? Raven for example, he shot the shit on WCW after he left, then went real easy on WWE when on WOL last winter. A couple people asked him about Hunter and he basically pleaded the fifth. I know Jerry Lynn and Killings were harsh on Vince and Company, but that was well after they were fired.
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#7 Posted on 5.7.03 0405.46
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I think by this time, Lynn and Killings know what even if they are hired back, they'll never be used properly or get a chance to shine. Raven might have a different view, I dunno.

It's probably still safe to bet on Hogan appearing in some form at Wrestlemania XX.



    Hogan said the WWE higher ups and creatives all are very opinionated about him, Brock, Kurt, and Triple H. He says you should never tell Vince your personal opinion on anything. At the end of the day, Vince is doing what he is doing on purpose because he wants WWE to be around in 20 years for the "passing of the torch" and that he knows what he's doing.

    He said Shane McMahon now has a new approach when dealing with his father, and that he had to make one because he had heat with his father. Hogan says, "He gets it too."



This is the most interesting part of the piece to me, it seems. I'd be interested to see what Shane's influence is within the company right now.
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#8 Posted on 5.7.03 0854.30
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IF what he says is true (I know Hogan/Truth don't generally go together), the scariest item mentioned is that Vince doesn't plan to pass the torch for another 20 years. Dear God, can anyone else picture Vince in his 80's wearing diapers to the ring and strutting around while sexually harrassing the help?
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#9 Posted on 5.7.03 0946.23
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Hogan pretty much confirmed rumors about Shane taking heat from Vince that were reported in the Torch earlier this year. I really wonder what's going on there, if it's not all boring business crap.

It sounds like Hogan went easy on HHH, but he is right: it is Vince McMahon that welcomes HHH's influence to the program and the responsibility ultimately falls on Vince McMahon. Of course, in television storylines, HHH is the one that's still going to take the heat when Vince finally comes to his senses and realizes that pushing HHH is killing his company.

Vince staying in power for 20 years is probably the least surprising thing to me. He is going to do this thing for as long as he can get away with it. If he plans on doing it for 20 years, though, there probably won't be a WWE for him to own.

Overall, though, interesting stuff.
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#10 Posted on 5.7.03 1126.14
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    Originally posted by Nag

    BTW, and off topic, does WWE put some kind of 'break Kayfaybe' moratorium on the wrestlers for a period of time after they are dropped? Raven for example, he shot the shit on WCW after he left, then went real easy on WWE when on WOL last winter. A couple people asked him about Hunter and he basically pleaded the fifth. I know Jerry Lynn and Killings were harsh on Vince and Company, but that was well after they were fired.



Raven had to sign some sort of confidentiality agreement to get his release so he couldn't talk. Most people just don't want to burn that bridge because at some point, they'll want to go back and it's the only game in town really. It was like back in December/January when Hogan went on every radio show kissing Vince's ass because he wanted to get back in for WrestleMania, and it worked.

Jerry Lynn, they totally f'ed over, so I bet he just thinks he's never going back or wants to go back. Killings is just stupid because his career is so young, he shouldn't have said those things even if he believed them.
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#11 Posted on 5.7.03 1137.05
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    IF what he says is true (I know Hogan/Truth don't generally go together), the scariest item mentioned is that Vince doesn't plan to pass the torch for another 20 years. Dear God, can anyone else picture Vince in his 80's wearing diapers to the ring and strutting around while sexually harrassing the help?


Yeah just think, there's a 5 year old out there somewhere that is someday going to get sexually harrassed by Vince in the WWE one day.
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#12 Posted on 5.7.03 1149.39
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    Originally posted by fuelinjected

    Killings is just stupid because his career is so young, he shouldn't have said those things even if he believed them.


Agreed. If I were him. I would go to TNA, work my ass off, show WWE what I'm capable of doing/what they're missing out on, basically trying my best to get back in. And anybody who says they dont want in WWE is either not telling thr truth or lying.

THEN AGAIN, what if all the crap Killings said about VKM/WWE was given to him to say by Russo or whoever was booking at the time at TNA. I mean, he just got fired from WWE. He may not have perticularly wanted to say those things about WWE, but didnt wanna piss off his new employers either.
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#13 Posted on 5.7.03 1255.21
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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze

    And anybody who says they dont want in WWE is either not telling thr truth or lying.



Which one of these two choices would apply to Killings.

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#14 Posted on 5.7.03 1334.25
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    IF what he says is true (I know Hogan/Truth don't generally go together), the scariest item mentioned is that Vince doesn't plan to pass the torch for another 20 years. Dear God, can anyone else picture Vince in his 80's wearing diapers to the ring and strutting around while sexually harrassing the help?


The Vince McMahon "Kiss my old, even more wrinkled, ass Club"...?
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#15 Posted on 5.7.03 1609.00
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    Originally posted by Quezzy

      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      IF what he says is true (I know Hogan/Truth don't generally go together), the scariest item mentioned is that Vince doesn't plan to pass the torch for another 20 years. Dear God, can anyone else picture Vince in his 80's wearing diapers to the ring and strutting around while sexually harrassing the help?


    Yeah just think, there's a 5 year old out there somewhere that is someday going to get sexually harrassed by Vince in the WWE one day.







Lawler is probably in the playgrounds of America looking for her already. Hmm, now I understand why Vince keeps Uncle Jerry around.
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#16 Posted on 5.7.03 1917.51
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    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    Vince staying in power for 20 years is probably the least surprising thing to me. He is going to do this thing for as long as he can get away with it. If he plans on doing it for 20 years, though, there probably won't be a WWE for him to own.

    Overall, though, interesting stuff.



Vince isn't going to live another 20 years. He's almost sixty now and he's about fifty pounds heavier than he has any right to be. This is a man who began taking steroids in his 40's, and from the looks of things he's still on them. I'm not saying this is a good thing, but I just really think he'll die long before his twenty-year target date.


    Originally posted by Fuelinjected

    It was like back in December/January when Hogan went on every radio show kissing Vince's ass because he wanted to get back in for WrestleMania, and it worked.



Actually he went around cutting promos on Vince. I heard several spots, the ones in my town and he just basically said if there's one time he could have everyone on his side, it'd be 'Mania. Also, if you recall this was around the release of the book tour, during which time he went around saying that he didn't get to say all he wanted to say about Vince McMahon in the book. This hardly constitutes "kissing Vince's ass".

What Jerry Lawler did when he parted from the company? That was ass-kissing.










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#17 Posted on 5.7.03 1933.41
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Not exactly, Lawler went on WOL read all of the legal documents WWE sent him, gave out the private Email addresses of Bruce Pritchard and Brian Gerwirtz on his web site, and shot all over the company for dropping the MCW developmental deal when he appeared on the show. I don't think that constitutes as "ass-kissing."
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#18 Posted on 5.7.03 1942.30
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I am referring to his website related "my-life-left-me-and-I-Want-To-Come-Back-To-Work" rants.
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#19 Posted on 5.7.03 2142.35
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    Originally posted by Scott Summets
    What Hogan did say about doing jobs is actually true. In singles competition, 2 of the 5 people he jobbed too, and the 2 of the cleanest were to Brock and Angle (the other 3 being Rocky, Taker, and Hunter).


which is nice, but notice he only did them after winning both the undisputed and tag titles. the loss to angle was clean and respectful. But to the brocklock instead of the F5, especially after hulking up and all, not to mention the runin attacks while Brock was chasing Rocky? Anyways, the main thing was he wanted more money and to be the #1 face. I'm very surprised they didn't turn Brock heel so Hulk could get his win back and then Vince could chase him. "You'll never get the title Hogan!" I'm Mr. America and I'll be champ at Vengeance, brother!"
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#20 Posted on 5.7.03 2334.29
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    Originally posted by darkdragoon

      Originally posted by Scott Summets
      What Hogan did say about doing jobs is actually true. In singles competition, 2 of the 5 people he jobbed too, and the 2 of the cleanest were to Brock and Angle (the other 3 being Rocky, Taker, and Hunter).


    which is nice, but notice he only did them after winning both the undisputed and tag titles. the loss to angle was clean and respectful. But to the brocklock instead of the F5, especially after hulking up and all, not to mention the runin attacks while Brock was chasing Rocky? Anyways, the main thing was he wanted more money and to be the #1 face. I'm very surprised they didn't turn Brock heel so Hulk could get his win back and then Vince could chase him. "You'll never get the title Hogan!" I'm Mr. America and I'll be champ at Vengeance, brother!"



Okay, I don't know what the "brocklock" is, but I don't remember "clean" meaning "losses to the finishing move". I also don't remember reading that he wanted to be the #1 face on the show (although I might have missed that), or that he had any booking power (he says a number of times that Vince and only Vince calls the shots in the end). The fact is that Hogan hasn't really done anything that is even close to the stuff he did in WCW.

I also thought that him and Edge winning the tag belts was to help Edge out, which was the prevailing thought at the time. I suppose we're all wearing our "Hogan is Satan" glasses again. I wish people would send out a memo or something for who we hate and when. I'd like to know when to turn on Brock so I can start revising history too.


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