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#1 Posted on 3.7.03 1201.40
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http://msn.espn.go.com/nhl/news/2003/0703/1576273.html

They'll both be with the Avalanche next year. That is all kinds of awesome. Can they get a goalie now?

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#2 Posted on 3.7.03 1353.01
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With that much firepower, will they need a quality goalie?
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#3 Posted on 3.7.03 1359.21
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I'd be willing to see them try Aebischer out, but I'm worried that stacking the lineup as they have might put undue pressure on him, like Osgood went through in Detroit.
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#4 Posted on 3.7.03 1415.10
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The rich keep getting richer, it looks to be Avalanche vs. Red Wings in the west. Who will be the surprise in the west? I could only see St. Louis or Minnesota taking down the kings of the mountain.
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#5 Posted on 3.7.03 1423.21
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They signed Kariya..for...are you ready? I.5 MILLION. That is all.....

The NHLPA will have something to say about this that is for sure.

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#6 Posted on 3.7.03 1433.25
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He's getting less icetime for sure, playing behind Sakic, Forsberg & a lot of others. I'd say he got a good deal. Just watch for the NHLPA to go all apeshit now that a player is actually taking a PAYCUT in pro sports. Tossing away $8.5 mil is OK if you're gonna win.
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#7 Posted on 3.7.03 1436.09
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While the Maple Leafs get nobody. Fuck you, Pat Quinn.
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#8 Posted on 3.7.03 1436.16
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The ESPN.com article says it's actually $1.2 million.

This sounds like something I'd do on NHL 2003. Damn, think of how good the Avs will be on NHL 2004! LOL.

Edit: It also says "The source said Kariya had specific reasons for signing the relatively low contract figure, but did not elaborate." Hmmmm.

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#9 Posted on 3.7.03 1644.44
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Kariya signed with the Avs for less than market value because.....

1) He wanted to play with Selanne again.

2) He wants the chance to win the cup.

Remember, both only signed 1 year deals, if it doesn't work out in 'o3-'o4 they might just bolt to greener pastures after next season.
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#10 Posted on 3.7.03 1812.48
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Aw hell yeah.

Now get a solid #1 goalie and baby, we got us a Cup contender!
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#11 Posted on 4.7.03 0045.59
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Apparently Paul & Teemu decided to shop around as a package deal. SICK FFFREAKS!

Kariya took the enormous paycut because now he is under the NHL minimum and thus an UFA again next year.

Personally, I dunno. I never really liked the Avalanche.
Kariya is my favorite player however..why the fuck couldn't they just sign with Anaheim together..
Anaheim with Kariya, Selanne and Jiggy would rawk..*sigh*

I guess it will be a huge change for Kariya, but he might benefit from it. No longer is he the guy all other teams target. His play should improve despite getting some less minutes.
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#12 Posted on 4.7.03 0555.33
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""The source said Kariya had specific reasons for signing the relatively low contract figure, but did not elaborate."

... Actually, it's a calculated move on Kariya's part. He becomes unrestricted after this coming season, and seeing as how he's going to play side-by-side with some of the best offensive talent in the NHL -- he's looking to put up big numbers and win a championship, which in turn (he hopes) will get him paid big dollars.

The apparent problem with this strategy is the precarious state of the NHL that is expected after the expiration of the current CBA. But, if I were a Colorado fan, I wouldn't care -- this Avs team looks to be incredibly entertaining, and worth a season ticket.

Tanguay-Forsberg-Hejduk
Kariya-Sakic-Selanne

That looks like an All-Star team's top 6. Just absolutely sick.

I would think Granato's toast if the Avs don't barrel out of the gate, though.
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#13 Posted on 4.7.03 1923.39
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Next year it looks like The Avs Offense vs. The Red Wings defense especially if Hasek is back in form
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#14 Posted on 7.7.03 1718.16
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Bettman must deny Avs' steal of a deal

Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post write why he feels the league needs to step in here. (I disagree, but it's a pretty interesting article.) My favorite thing is where he points out that by thaking such a huge paycut, Kariya cut $10,000 of the average NHL salary by himself.

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#15 Posted on 8.7.03 1443.03
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I just dont get it. People, mostly in the media will complain ad nauseum about free agent spending, about "big market" teams buying every player available, and complain that the athelete gets paid handsomely to "play a game". Yet, two guys who suffered (and lets be honest they frieking SUFFERED in Anehiem for all those seasons) decide they want to play in a Stanley Cup finals and have a great chance to actually WIN one, and they sacrifice about 15 million bucks between them, its a WRONG move?

I dont think Colorado can win it all. No drive, no goalie and they play in a tough division/conference. They have to get through, in no particular order, Detroit, St Louis, Dallas Anahiem, and Vancouver this season. All but Vancouver could be seen as legit finals contenders, but they have a big, strong team.

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#16 Posted on 8.7.03 1617.29
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Bettman must deny Avs' steal of a deal

    Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post write why he feels the league needs to step in here. (I disagree, but it's a pretty interesting article.) My favorite thing is where he points out that by thaking such a huge paycut, Kariya cut $10,000 of the average NHL salary by himself.

    (edited by JayJayDean on 7.7.03 1519)



Feh. Kiszla's an idiot, and he doesn't know too much about hockey to begin with.
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#17 Posted on 10.7.03 0031.59
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Wow, a guy in DENVER is complaining about the Avs' moves? Way to be popular.

The NHL is almost turning into the NBA in terms of the strength between the East and the West. The West has Detroit, Dallas, Colorado and Vancouver who are legit Cup contenders, not to mention Anaheim if they can keep it going and St. Louis if they get Curtis Joseph. The East has New Jersey, Ottawa and....uh...the Leafs? :(
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#18 Posted on 10.7.03 1356.19
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I think if Osgood stays healthy, playing with McInnis, Pronger and Jackman in front of him, he can have a terrific season. I am hoping against it, since although I live in St Louis, I hate the blues, but the chances are there that he will prosper.
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#19 Posted on 10.7.03 2017.27
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And the Kings answer with... Trent Klatt... ugh.

I have to disagree with everyone about Anaheim. Without Kariya, it will be much more difficult for them to reach the same level they did in 2002-3.
Detroit will not trade Cujo to anyone in the Western Conference. Ken Holland is no dope. Rumor has it that Cujo is going to the Rangers.
I am not sure about Dallas either. Losing Hatcher to the Wings is a big blow to their blue line.
Vancouver can contend, but they need to improve in the net. I think Sean Burke would fit in nicely there.
The Blues are always a threat. Going through so many netminders hurt them last season. If they can stay moderately healthy, the Blues have the best shot of beating the Cheating 'Dique or Detroit.

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#20 Posted on 11.7.03 1623.11
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As much as I like Kariya, I think he's extremely overrated. With the money the Ducks are saving they can afford a couple of players who can contribute far more than Kariya could.
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