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#1 Posted on 3.7.03 1134.57
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From 411's movie section....

Batman-On-Film.com is reporting that Scarecrow will be the main villain in the next Batman movie and that Christopher Lloyd is being considered for that role.

DarkHorizons.com is reporting that Warner Bros. is still pushing for Ashton Kutcher to play Batman, while director Christopher Nolan is pushing for his Memento star Guy Pearce.


Could you possibly think of anyone, ANYONE less suited to play Batman than Ashton Freaking Kutcher? That would be a catastrophe that not even Nolan could save. I think the obvious solution here would be to have Guy Pearce as Batman and Kutcher (if the studio absolutely insists on having him) as Robin. Lloyd-as-Scarecrow I kinda like, actually.


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#2 Posted on 3.7.03 1148.08
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Somebody is obviously trying to cash in on Ashton while he's hot....

I'm not sure who should play Batman...should I even suggest Hugh Jackman?
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#3 Posted on 3.7.03 1156.15
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You know I don't have so much of a problem with AK being Batman from an acting point of view. While I'd like to have at least seen him do some not so goofy stuff, I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he could do a decent job.

However, I wouldn't like it because he's, what, 25 or 26? I hate it when they try to slip a younger guy in there to do a part that's been done by older actors. (See Affleck, Ben: The Sum of All Fears) Unless they set the movie in the past, before events that had occurred in previous films took place, I just get distracted by the timeline inconsistencies that crop up.
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#4 Posted on 3.7.03 1201.31
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Could you possibly think of anyone, ANYONE less suited to play Batman than Ashton Freaking Kutcher?

Ruben Studdard.

I'm not so sure about Lloyd as Scarecrow, either. When was the last time he played a villain? Star Trek III? He's the loveable zany guy, not a vicious murderer. Isn't Scarecrow masked? They could get an unknown with good physical acting skills and cast a good voice actor. I'd like to see one Batman movie that doesn't waste time on the villain's origin story.
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#5 Posted on 3.7.03 1229.28
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Christopher Lloyd played a villain in Anastasia :)
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#6 Posted on 3.7.03 1230.05
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    I hate it when they try to slip a younger guy in there to do a part that's been done by older actors. (See Affleck, Ben: The Sum of All Fears) Unless they set the movie in the past, before events that had occurred in previous films took place, I just get distracted by the timeline inconsistencies that crop up.


I'm pretty sure Sum of All Fears was set in the past.
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#7 Posted on 3.7.03 1302.57
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    Originally posted by anibanging
    I'm pretty sure Sum of All Fears was set in the past.


As I remember it (and I've only seen the movie once) the football scene was current, and the James Earl Jones character from "Hunt for Red October" was played by Morgan Freeman and he had been promoted from "CIA guy" to "CIA Director". I could be wrong.

Also, I just watched some of "Hunt for Red October" last night on HBO41, and if "The Sum of All Fears" took place before "Hunt for Red October" then a lot of "Red October" doesn't make sense. Why would Jack Ryan still be a lowly analyst in the CIA if he just saved the world from nuclear war? Why would he be writing books about Soviet submarine tactics?

Conversely, if HfRO took place BEFORE tSoAF, then why would Jack Ryan be someone that nobody knew? He was basically an anonymous CIA guy, had to meet the President for the first time and stuff like that. I thought they put all of the in there because a younger actor was in the role and since Harrison Ford's Jack Ryan have been head of the CIA.

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#8 Posted on 3.7.03 1338.32
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James Greer (the Freeman/Jones character) died in Clear and Present Danger, so if he's alive then we can at least theoretically claim Sum happens first. (I believe the point was to tell the story of young Jack Ryan.)

Its alot like Spider-Man in the comics. When he started he was a teenager (seventeen?). Now he's in his mid thirties (right?), which is about as old as the comic. Hell, even the movie was set modern day and updated the origins to match today's times. I wish there was canon for this stuff about when certain events happened. At least for the Clancy stuff, the books pretty much maintain their own continuity (although I've heard that Red Rabbit starts to tread on dangerous ground). How can the comics maintain currency when characters age at roughly half the rate of the readers?
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#9 Posted on 3.7.03 1354.04
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I seem to recall that the Morgan Freeman character was named Bill, and now that you mention it, I think he died too. He must've been a different character. "Clear and Present Danger" was such a loooooong movie.
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#10 Posted on 3.7.03 1413.52
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    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    James Greer (the Freeman/Jones character) died in Clear and Present Danger, so if he's alive then we can at least theoretically claim Sum happens first. (I believe the point was to tell the story of young Jack Ryan.)

    Its alot like Spider-Man in the comics. When he started he was a teenager (seventeen?). Now he's in his mid thirties (right?), which is about as old as the comic. Hell, even the movie was set modern day and updated the origins to match today's times. I wish there was canon for this stuff about when certain events happened. At least for the Clancy stuff, the books pretty much maintain their own continuity (although I've heard that Red Rabbit starts to tread on dangerous ground). How can the comics maintain currency when characters age at roughly half the rate of the readers?



Modern Marvel continuity is as follows:
-The period between 1962 & now (when the Silver Age guys like Iron Man, Spider-Man, et al) is nine years Marvel Time. Meaning? Spider-Man's 25-27, as he got powers when he was 16-ish.

The beautiful thing about comics is that sweeping retcons can be done well, but with films, it's harder. You can't put a tag on Sum of All Fears that says "We restarted things, ass-face!" and assume people not to get pissed off that you retconned a bunch of films.
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#11 Posted on 3.7.03 1804.43
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Ashton Kutcher as Batman?

That's absurd. Even in Hollywood, no one could be that stupid.

I don't think Hugh Jackman is smooth enough to be a good Batman. I miss Michael Keaton.
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#12 Posted on 3.7.03 1826.32
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Michael Keaton was the best Batman.

WB needs to quit being morons and hire Tim Burton again as well.
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#13 Posted on 3.7.03 1830.19
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Is there some sort of beef between WB and Tim Burton?
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#14 Posted on 3.7.03 1837.40
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Eh, it's not like the folks at Warner Bros. are going to be able to get their heads out of their asses long enough to get one of their comic book movies off the ground. Anyone remember the "news" of the next Batman movie being a Darren Aronofsky-helmed "Year One" flick? Or Wolfgang Petersen's Batman vs Superman (Superman, there's another franchise that'll never make it. Wasn't Ashton Kutcher considered for that one too?)
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#15 Posted on 3.7.03 1837.58
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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    Is there some sort of beef between WB and Tim Burton?


I cannot remember where I read it, but he was set to do the third Batman movie but WB said he work was too dark and they told him he would not be needed. Then Michael Keaton was set to do the third Batman as well, but when they fired Burton (who he was friends with from doing Beetlejuice) and got a look at the script from the new movie he just hated it and dropped out.

But I could be wrong and just imagined the whole damn thing.
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#16 Posted on 3.7.03 1840.22
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    Originally posted by XPacArmy

      Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Is there some sort of beef between WB and Tim Burton?


    I cannot remember where I read it, but he was set to do the third Batman movie but WB said he work was too dark and they told him he would not be needed. Then Michael Keaton was set to do the third Batman as well, but when they fired Burton (who he was friends with from doing Beetlejuice) and got a look at the script from the new movie he just hated it and dropped out.

    But I could be wrong and just imagined the whole damn thing.



I remember reading an interview with Joel Schumacher on the Onion where I believe that he said that Tim Burton just didn't want to do another one, due to the stress of making a superhero film.
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#17 Posted on 3.7.03 1851.39
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Michael Keaton was the best Batman and Christopher Lloyd as the bad guy might not be a bad idea.

Anyway, I was flipping threw my tv the other night and caught, on Encore I think, a show called "The Directors" I think its called. Where they sit with a director and he/she talks about their past work. Well, they had Tim Burton on and when it came to the Batman movies he said that he had a great time doing them but they took their toll on him. And he was on the border of doing a third one, but he had not yet decided, when Warner Bros. called him in for a meeting and told him they basically did not want him for the next Batman movie.

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#18 Posted on 3.7.03 1919.46
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I don't know who in the hell should play Batman. It's a tough one to pull off, and I don't know if Ashton's a good enough actor, or more importantly, as has been pointed out, old-looking enough to do it.

And, while Christopher Lloyd is awesome, and does fit the part, now that I think about it, I've always thought Jeff Goldblum would make a KICK ASS Scarecrow.
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#19 Posted on 3.7.03 1953.59
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Considering Jeffry Combs ability to do weird doctor types ("Re-Animator") a long career playing heavies, and the fact that he was Scarecrow's voice actor in the last few "Batman" episodes, I say give him the nod for Scarecrow.

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#20 Posted on 3.7.03 2252.57
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When I think of Scarecrow, I think Christopher Walken.

If they're going for a young Batman, I can't remember his name, but that psycho kid with the video camera in American Beauty has the kind of brooding Bruce Wayne look to him.
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