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#1 Posted on 24.6.03 1003.06
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I've questioned the system in the past, but the $89.99 price point for a preowned Cube finally got to me.

I am consistent with my usual buying patterns, at least -- I didn't buy it for the games that most others bought it for. One reason I went preowned is that ($90 preowned vs. $150 with one game) isn't that great a deal after all -- you're basically paying $10 for new-in-the-box quality and the full $50 for the game anyway, and the packaged games will be out there for less than that on the preowned market.

Instead, for the ~$160 that a new-plus-Zelda system would've cost, I got a Cube, _two_ controllers, a memory card (59), a controller extension cable, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem and Bloody Roar: Primal Fury. (The former will have my wife sleepless for weeks. The latter isn't spectacular, but I played it over the weekend and found it enjoyable, and it was cheap -- certainly worth it at its sub-$20 price point.) If I want to go back and get Metroid Prime or Zelda down the line, they'll be there -- hell, I've already seen Metroid preowned for less than thirty.

When the PSX was new and riding its first wave of popularity, I held back, because the launch titles didn't impress me all that much. It was only when the third-party oddballs like Motor Toon Grand Prix, Runabout (Felony 11-79), Jumping Flash! 2, arcade classic collections, Bust-a-Move 2, etc. started coming out stateside that I took the plunge. One mod-chip later, and I was on my way to a sizeable import collection.

The Cube is even easier to make import-friendly (a boot-disc solution exists), and the non-PS2 third-party lineup seemed worth a ninety-dollar gamble:

* Eternal Darkness
* Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2
* Resident Evil (remix) and Resident Evil Zero for my wife
* Hunter: The Reckoning (played it over the weekend, mindless fun, the sequels in two months look better)
* Cubivore
* Bloody Roar: Primal Fury
* Skies of Arcadia Legends
* Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters

and maybe a few second-tier Nintendo titles like Pikmin and Smash Bros. Melee.

Of course, within a day, Acclaim announced that they were dropping most GameCube support. Not that Acclaim's released more than a handful of games worth a shit over the years, but third-party developers do tend to vacate consoles in a domino effect...

(edited by vsp on 24.6.03 0815)
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#2 Posted on 24.6.03 1417.41
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Acclaim is now backbeddling saying their quote was "out of context"

I guess that they will do only a GC release on their sure fire hits, and keep the smaller releases as XBOX and PS2 only.

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#3 Posted on 24.6.03 2331.33
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I think you made a good choice. I have all three and the cube has some good games, but needs more. I got Zelda and it's cool so is Pikmen.
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#4 Posted on 25.6.03 0739.08
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I wouldn't have bought the Cube if I didn't already have a PS2 -- there would be far too many games I'd miss out on.

That said, when Option 1 is
* new Cube + one of (Metroid Prime/Resident Evil Zero/StarFox/Mario Party 4) = $150

and Option 2 is
* preowned Cube ($90 at GameStop) + Metroid Prime ($20 at Blockbuster, new) + Resident Evil Zero ($20 at Blockbuster, new) + Eternal Darkness ($15 at GameStop, new) + el cheapo memory card ($5 at EB) = $150

...I'm not sure why anyone would pick Option 1 right now.
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#5 Posted on 25.6.03 0744.46
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Well, I put a lot of miles on my Cube until I beat the big titles. Then I bought a PS2 with Xenosaga and Kingdom Hearts, and that has put a lot of dust on the Cube.
The dust will disappear tomorrow when the Game Boy Player is released. HOO
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#6 Posted on 25.6.03 1335.00
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Seriously, if you like RPG's at all, do yourself a favor and grab Skies of Arcadia. Great game.
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#7 Posted on 25.6.03 1403.53
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I'm backing up Tenken here, and saying Skies of Arcadia: Ledgends is probably the second best RPG ever (after FF6, of course). Get that and Animal Crossing and you will busy for a long, long, long time.
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#8 Posted on 25.6.03 1608.48
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RPG's haven't been Nintendo's strong suit in years. The truly last great RPG to come out on a Nintendo system was Chrono Trigger, with honorable props going to Earthbound and Super Mario RPG (which could have been a CLASSIC had the difficulty level not been so pathetically easy). The common denominator? These are all SUPER NES TITLES! That's a LONG time ago.

RPG's are more the PS2's area. The Gamecube will give you good adventure games like Zelda and Metroid Prime, but very little of anything else.

However, I wouldn't call Super Smash Bros. 2nd tier by any means. That game can be pretty damn addicting.
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#9 Posted on 25.6.03 1615.52
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Ikagura is a cool game for the Gamecube. Its probably not for everyone, but its a nice old-school shooter.
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#10 Posted on 25.6.03 1753.53
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The problem is that Ikuraga, Sonic Adventure, and Skies of Arcadia were all available on the Dreamcast (ok - Ikaruga was a Japanese Import, but still).

I think it really is coming down to the point that you have to have at least 2 of the big 3 right now. If I had to pick I think I would go with X-box for sports and Gamecube for everything else. I could be biased though - I did get 2 wavebirds as part of my wedding registry

(Thanks again, Chris!)
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#11 Posted on 25.6.03 2006.43
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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    The problem is that Ikaruga, Sonic Adventure, and Skies of Arcadia were all available on the Dreamcast (ok - Ikaruga was a Japanese Import, but still).

    I think it really is coming down to the point that you have to have at least 2 of the big 3 right now. If I had to pick I think I would go with X-box for sports and Gamecube for everything else.



Oddly, from what I've read, the Sonic remakes on the Cube are _inferior_ to the DC originals in some ways (occasional framerate lurches coming to mind).

As has been noted, RPGs are PS2 all the way, especially when you figure in the PS1 compatibility. The FF series, Kingdom Hearts, Suikoden III, Wild Arms 3, Legaia 2, Arc the Lad, Chrono Trigger, Star Ocean 2, Persona 2, Wizardry, Xenogears, Xenosaga... nothing wrong with Stars of Arcadia Legends, but that's a helluva lineup.

For me, the Xbox is still Halo and Panzer Orta and diddly-squat when it comes to other exclusives. I don't play sports games often, and don't care much for playing online, so Xbox Live doesn't impress me (hey, I played over the phone line with my SATURN).

The one problem with the Cube can be finding particular games for it. As its market share shrinks, so does its shelf space.



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#12 Posted on 25.6.03 2201.35
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Have you CUBE owners tried Mario Party 4? The first game is an absolute classic, but the minigames are getting repetitive, and I want to try a new one. I don't own a gamecube but I was just wondering if it's any good. I've seen MP3 on sale but it was for something like 40 bucks! No luck for me!
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#13 Posted on 25.6.03 2214.23
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I think EGM said Mario Party 5 is out in August or September. Probably the latter.

Last I checked, the going rates for the old games are 40 each for MP2 and 3, and 30 for the original. There's gotta be a better deal than that somewhere on ebay. I'm certainly not big on the knowledge of economics concerning the pricing of old used games...

...but I do know that a console originally costing 150 bucks now marked down to 30 is nice for people who never got an N64, but for those of us who still have ours, it sucks that most all of the 50 dollar games never get anywhere close to that same 80% price markdown. ::cries::
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#14 Posted on 25.6.03 2317.49
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What's the average price for a used copy of Perfect Dark (I think that's the name. The first person shooter on N64 that came out after Goldneeye.)? Over here, I've picked up a shitload of cheap games, but Perfect Dark is always like $70. Everyone tells me it's great, but I can't justify that kind of money. Is it cheaper back in the motherland?
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#15 Posted on 25.6.03 2344.55
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Somewhere between $30 and $40 over here.

-Jag

If you don't have it, go pick up Mario Tennis. It's somewhere between $20-$30 dollars, and the game is freakin' awesome.
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#16 Posted on 26.6.03 0019.21
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I got Perfect Dark brand new at Circuit City some months back for 10 bucks. I haven't been back there since then, but I have seen it in Target for the same price semi-recently.
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#17 Posted on 26.6.03 0021.10
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I like Mario Party 4. I bought it the day it came out... it's pretty good. I think for a party game it ranks up there - I still prefer Super Monkey Ball 2 - but we definitely pull out Mario Party if 3 or 4 people are around to play.

We're more Mario Party than Smash Bros., I'm afraid. Your milage may vary.

The Cube is a great value at $90 used - and I think it's a great value at $150 new w/ a game.

Do check Blockbuster for games - I picked up Resident Evil 0 (GC), Metroid (GC), and Metal Gear (XBOX) for $20 ea. and all were new copies. That's better than I've seen them used.
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#18 Posted on 27.6.03 2323.24
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I rented Zelda, and so far I'm not entirely impressed, though I'll keep at it through the rental period. It's not BAD, per se... just frustrating. Who ever heard of a 3D platform-run-and-jump game that didn't have an independent JUMP BUTTON?

I turned it off after my fourteenth attempt to get past the two goblins in the Fortress -- the bit with the long curved path leading to a stairway. Unless there's some trick other than the hide-under-the-barrel-and-stay-still-when-visible technique that I'm missing, I'm ready to stab the level designer with an olive fork. For muscleheaded guards, they certainly have keen goddamned vision; one little twitch within fifty yards of their position, and wham! it's back to jail and a two-minute run-and-jump-back-to-that-room sequence. Bleah...
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#19 Posted on 27.6.03 2326.13
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    Originally posted by vsp
    I rented Zelda, and so far I'm not entirely impressed, though I'll keep at it through the rental period. It's not BAD, per se... just frustrating. Who ever heard of a 3D platform-run-and-jump game that didn't have an independent JUMP BUTTON?

    I turned it off after my fourteenth attempt to get past the two goblins in the Fortress -- the bit with the long curved path leading to a stairway. Unless there's some trick other than the hide-under-the-barrel-and-stay-still-when-visible technique that I'm missing, I'm ready to stab the level designer with an olive fork. For muscleheaded guards, they certainly have keen goddamned vision; one little twitch within fifty yards of their position, and wham! it's back to jail and a two-minute run-and-jump-back-to-that-room sequence. Bleah...



Yeah, I couldn't figure out how to get past the part after that. I managed to turn the lights off, but then what?
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... I have a GameCube and an XBox -- very happy with both of them. But I'm mostly a sports/RPG gamer when it comes to console systems.

For sports, GC and XBox are clearly superior to PS2. I haven't played a sports game on a PlayStation console since NHL '98 for the original PS.

Also, I think the RPG's for PS1 and PS2 have classically been overrated -- you could buy a Dreamcast for cheap and play two of the best ever, Skies of Arcadia and Grandia 2, far better than any Final Fantasy game after FF7.

I DID, however, love Harvest Moon: BTN for the original PS -- and the newest installment (coming out this fall, I think) will be exclusive to the GC. I can't wait.
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