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#1 Posted on 5.6.03 1508.03
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Metallica is back to their old school hard rock metal. I heard a couple of samples today on the net and it does not sound that bad. I believe the album comes out next week or actually this friday? I've heard different dates. Anyway point is that Metallica is back with a new album and no Jason.
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#2 Posted on 5.6.03 1639.37
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It actually showed up in a few major chains yesterday, and had it's nationwide release today. I threw a review up in the other St. Anger thread.

Essentially, it was after one listen, and I really disliked it. However, I've listened to it again since then... and now I fucking loathe it.
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#3 Posted on 10.6.03 1121.14
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What he said.

Although Metallica had fallen out out of my top 10 by the time I'd heard Load, I still enjoyed some of their stuff (Garage Inc. shows me that Metallica can still be awesome...just have them be a cover band).

But this NEW album...yikes. Looks like Newsted was the smart one. Hetfield has one of the most distinctive voices in popular music, and on the new album he basically doesn't use it at all, he's just yelling all the time. Lars has decided to jump on the tinny-sounding snaredrum bandwagon that most of the godawful nu-metal bands are on.

They should just change their name to Metallikorn.

What a disappointment.
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#4 Posted on 10.6.03 1748.27
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I actually like the new CD, sure it's no Master Of Puppets, but what metal CD is? I'm pumped to see them, and while I like it, I can see why ya'll would dislike it too. I'd say it's almost more Slayerish than Metallica, but I still like it.
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#5 Posted on 12.6.03 1734.46
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    Originally posted by Scott Summets
    I'd say it's almost more Slayerish than Metallica, but I still like it.


Please don't disgrace the mighty Slayer by invoking their name when describing this record. Musically, I think that St. Anger is heavier and better than most of what Metallica has put out for the last few years. But lyrically (is that a real word?), James needs to clean out his closet and find his BALLS, because he sounds like a whiny little bitch on most of the songs.
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#6 Posted on 16.6.03 0857.32
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My problem with the album is that they have forgotten about the concept of transitions in their songs. The early albums had wonderful musical transitions between verses, choruses, and solos but this stuff is just flat.
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#7 Posted on 17.6.03 0253.34
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Based on only hearing the title track, I've got to agree with evilwaldo. It's like they recorded had an organ grinder monkey use Cool Edit Pro to edit it. And yes, James needs to find his sack. I'm still trying to figure out where the musical return to their heyday came in.
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#8 Posted on 18.6.03 1058.28
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Did you ever see that episode of "Friends'" when Monica was dating that guy Fun Eddie (or Fun Something).

Anyhow, he ended up being a drunk....and once Monica got him to go sober, he wasn't "Fun" anymore...he was totally boring.

Well, that's how I feel about this album. I'm glad James got his inner demons bridled for his sake....but gawd I wish he would get hammered before they start writing the new album.
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#9 Posted on 18.6.03 1202.52
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    Originally posted by The Amazing Salami
    Did you ever see that episode of "Friends'" when Monica was dating that guy Fun Eddie (or Fun Something).

    Anyhow, he ended up being a drunk....and once Monica got him to go sober, he wasn't "Fun" anymore...he was totally boring.

    Well, that's how I feel about this album. I'm glad James got his inner demons bridled for his sake....but gawd I wish he would get hammered before they start writing the new album.



This is exactly how I feel about Aerosmith.
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#10 Posted on 21.6.03 1723.59
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I'm not a huge fan of St. Anger, either...but that's mostly because of the horrible snare drum sound! That thing just sticks out there like a sore thumb. That's the sound they were going for, though, at least according to the industry stories I've read about the recording process for it. I mean, they used FOUR microphones to capture the entire drumset (kick, snare, and two overheads) because they wanted a raw sound overall instead of the polished stuff you hear in most music these days (New York rock excluded, of course).

I like the songs well enough, and I'm glad the band feels good about it, but it seems a shame to spend $100,000 recording an album that sounds like it was recorded for about $1500.

My two cents, of course.
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#11 Posted on 22.6.03 1823.30
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    Originally posted by JJBotter
    I'm not a huge fan of St. Anger, either...but that's mostly because of the horrible snare drum sound! That thing just sticks out there like a sore thumb. That's the sound they were going for, though, at least according to the industry stories I've read about the recording process for it. I mean, they used FOUR microphones to capture the entire drumset (kick, snare, and two overheads) because they wanted a raw sound overall instead of the polished stuff you hear in most music these days (New York rock excluded, of course).

    I like the songs well enough, and I'm glad the band feels good about it, but it seems a shame to spend $100,000 recording an album that sounds like it was recorded for about $1500.

    My two cents, of course.



Good point on the recording prices. Flea mentioned once that his beef with the new Rolling Stones releases is that they made the production pretty when the shitty production values helped the product. Kill Em' All and MoP and Ride the Lightning and such did have shitty production values, but it kinda helped the final touch of the records.
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#12 Posted on 23.6.03 1034.25
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    Originally posted by drjayphd
    Based on only hearing the title track, I've got to agree with evilwaldo. It's like they recorded had an organ grinder monkey use Cool Edit Pro to edit it. And yes, James needs to find his sack. I'm still trying to figure out where the musical return to their heyday came in.


Agree wholeheartedly.

Title track has a cool opening bass riff. Sounds a lot harder than anything they've done since ...And Justice for All. Then, when it sounds like maybe they're going to do a good job of going back to doing thrash metal...

"saaaaint aaanger round mah neee-eeeck
saaaaint aaanger round mah neee-eeeck". Slow, '80s style rock melody. Sounds like a lamer Unforgiven or Nothing Else Matters. And unlike a song like One which moves from melodic to fast, no guitar solo... no bridge... nothing in between... just a jarring cut. At least System of a Down can sound good doing this stuff - Tallica don't.

After dragging on for what feels like an eternity, "Den Flush 'em Out! Den Flush 'Em Out!". Great. Limtallica Bizkit. And when you think it can't get worse...

Hetfeld decides to do his best Dave Mustaine impersonation (listen to him sing "I feel my world sick *llaaaaaaike* an earthquake and you hear what I mean) over the snare drums.

Then they go through it again, with fast snare drums in the riff this time. it drags on for 5 minutes. I remember as a kid listening to Master of Puppets 3 or 4 times in a row - same with Blackend, or Of Wolf and Man, or Seek and Destroy, and I *swear* it didn't drag on as long as this song has dragged on so far.

Okay, the 3rd time through there is no jarring from fast to melodic. Sounds cool for about a minute, about 2 minutes before the end of the song. "SET IT FREEEEEEYA"... We're back in snare drum hell while Mustainefeld yells about being "Madly in anger with you". I swear he sung better on S&M - what happend?

And then - finally - it ends. And it's nto one of those songs that suck at first but grow on you - if anything it grows worse. And the cover is a wannabe nu-metal cover if I ever saw one.
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#13 Posted on 23.6.03 1204.50
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I finally figured out what bugs me most about this album...

I think Het ripped off his rehab people for most of the lyrics. Most of his "hooks" sound like the phrases you learn at a place like that..

I need to set my anger free

My lifestyle determines my deathstyle

You flush it out, you flush it out.


And that's just the first couple of tracks.
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#14 Posted on 24.6.03 1740.08
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"My lifestyle determines my deathstyle" is the funniest, worst line I've ever heard. It's much better if you sing it as "My lifestyle determines my dance style."

Oh, and the album? Crap. Not a single redemable song on the whole mess.


(edited by LaParka525 on 24.6.03 1541)
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#15 Posted on 24.6.03 2343.57
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" My lifestyle determines my deathstyle " - Frantic

Why is that the funniest/worst line? Is it untrue?
Seems like pure logic to me.

How about these?:

" All the shots I take, I spit back at you" - Shoot Me Again

"She holds the pen that spells the end.
She traces me and draws me in" - Sweet Amber

"Not only do I not know the answer, I don't even know what the question is." - My World

"Open your heart, I'm beating right here. Open your mind, I'm being right here" - Invisible Kid


Maybe this shit goes over peoples heads. I get it. I also value every riff, crappy snare hit, and lyric on this album because it's pure.


I will say that the video/radio edit of St. Anger is crap. The album version is just fine.
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#16 Posted on 27.6.03 1228.27
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    Originally posted by Dustin
    Maybe this shit goes over peoples heads. I get it.


We're all real proud of you. And I think the line "Shoot me again, I ain't dead yet," was written for people like you.
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#17 Posted on 27.6.03 2054.52
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I'll qualify this by saying I'm not a big Metallica fan in the first place, but I heard this album over at a friend's house and GOOD LORD it's terrible. There's a difference between good stripped-down sound (makes it sound gritty, raw) and bad stripped-down (i.e. like the album was made for forty bucks). Then again, perhaps Metallica didn't have the cash to spend on production since all those evil file-swappers are putting them into the poorhouse.
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#18 Posted on 27.6.03 2137.55
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    Originally posted by The Amazing Salami



    We're all real proud of you. And I think the line "Shoot me again, I ain't dead yet," was written for people like you.




Bite my tongue, trying not to shoot back.

(edited by Dustin on 29.6.03 0026)
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#19 Posted on 28.6.03 0042.55
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    Originally posted by Dustin

      Originally posted by The Amazing Salami



      We're all real proud of you. And I think the line "Shoot me again, I ain't dead yet," was written for people like you.




    Wow, sarcastic praise?!? All for me?!?

    Hey man, I wasn't trying to be a DICK. You however, felt the need to display your dickness.
    For that, I say fuck you very much.

Please, children.
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#20 Posted on 28.6.03 0204.13
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    Originally posted by LaParka525
    "My lifestyle determines my deathstyle" is the funniest, worst line I've ever heard.





I'll stick with "I'M MADLY IN ANGER WITH YOUUUUUUU" as the goofiest line on that crappy CD. But there are certainly other contenders.
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