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#1 Posted on 14.5.03 1545.05
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The "land of the free" recently passed a bill granting broad new powers to various law enforcement agencies, as we all know, and are preparing to shortly pass Patriot Act II, a sequel to 2001's Patriot Act. My question is, how can you reconcile your country's propoganda about being the land of the free, when most countries in the world don't have half the punitive laws and restrictions on personal freedom that the United States places upon it's citizens? Just asking...

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I'm presently enjoying one of my many freedoms that wouldn't be allowed down in the land of the free..................-wink-

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#2 Posted on 14.5.03 1619.39
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    Originally posted by -proletarian-
    -lights up a J-

    I'm presently enjoying one of my many freedoms that wouldn't be allowed down in the land of the free..................-wink-




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#3 Posted on 14.5.03 1628.43
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    Originally posted by Bizzle Izzle
    All is revealed!!! NOW we all know what's affecting your mind when you make your posts.


I am still laughing at the most counties in this world don't have the restrictions on personal freedom as the US does remark.
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#4 Posted on 14.5.03 1803.32
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    Originally posted by calvinh0560

      Originally posted by Bizzle Izzle
      All is revealed!!! NOW we all know what's affecting your mind when you make your posts.


    I am still laughing at the most counties in this world don't have the restrictions on personal freedom as the US does remark.





Perhaps I should have been clearer......I meant most civilized countries.

;)
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#5 Posted on 14.5.03 1813.17
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    Originally posted by -proletarian-

      Originally posted by calvinh0560

        Originally posted by Bizzle Izzle
        All is revealed!!! NOW we all know what's affecting your mind when you make your posts.


      I am still laughing at the most counties in this world don't have the restrictions on personal freedom as the US does remark.





    Perhaps I should have been clearer......I meant most civilized countries.

    ;)



Uh, North Korea, for all intents and purposes, is civilized.
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#6 Posted on 14.5.03 1814.47
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Come to Canada. We are decriminalizing that J!
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#7 Posted on 14.5.03 1827.56
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    Originally posted by StampedeFan23
    Come to Canada. We are decriminalizing that J!


But you still have those pesky "hate speech" laws.
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#8 Posted on 15.5.03 0559.09
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    Originally posted by kazhayashi81

      Originally posted by StampedeFan23
      Come to Canada. We are decriminalizing that J!


    But you still have those pesky "hate speech" laws.


And those confiscatory taxes....

Look, Patriot and Patriot II are certainly bad news, I agree. But we still have the compelte right to assembly (something not universal in Germany) presumption of innocence before guilt (France), or like Canada confiscatory taxes in most Scandanavian countries.

I have noticed that countries that have, ahem, "decriminalized the J" have a host of other problems that the government might be able to skate by on if the population was doped up.
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#9 Posted on 15.5.03 0814.18
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Isn't this part of that whole all countries have problems but that doesn't excuse our problems phenemenon?
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#10 Posted on 15.5.03 1014.01
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Yes but when the first post said that Most "civilized countries" in the world don't have half the punitive laws and restrictions on personal freedom that the United States places upon it's citizens its fair to show that this is not a true statement.
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#11 Posted on 15.5.03 1102.49
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    Originally posted by calvinh0560
    Yes but when the first post said that Most "civilized countries" in the world don't have half the punitive laws and restrictions on personal freedom that the United States places upon it's citizens its fair to show that this is not a true statement.
I think the next time somebody continues a pattern of starting threads like this, we should just ignore them because they're don't seem particularly interested in talking things out - more like grandstanding, in fact. Then later I can ban 'em for making non-contribute contributions and everyone can cry "fascist!" It's a good thing.
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#12 Posted on 15.5.03 1318.31
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    Originally posted by StampedeFan23
    Come to Canada. We are decriminalizing that J!



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I'm already here......-lives in T.O.-
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