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#1 Posted on 13.5.03 0639.17
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It's stories like this that make me love Texas:

Democrats Walk Out of Texas Legislature

My favorite part is where State Police and Texas Rangers may be allowed to cross state lines to arrest membes of the House to force them to return to Austin.

What a bizarre story. The problem for the Democrats is that when you pully a silly stunt like this, it just makes you look like an idiot, regarldess te valor of the cause you are defending.
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#2 Posted on 13.5.03 0826.16
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    It's stories like this that make me love Texas:

    Democrats Walk Out of Texas Legislature

    My favorite part is where State Police and Texas Rangers may be allowed to cross state lines to arrest membes of the House to force them to return to Austin.

    What a bizarre story. The problem for the Democrats is that when you pully a silly stunt like this, it just makes you look like an idiot, regarldess te valor of the cause you are defending.



What can you say? It's the Texas Legislature. An old joke in Texas is that there is a misprint in the State Constitution. While it says that the legislature will meet for 40 days every 2 years, it was supposed to say that the legislature will meet for 2 days every 40 years.
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#3 Posted on 13.5.03 1234.48
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They already caught one. I guess 56 to go? Bring 'em back in chains

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#4 Posted on 13.5.03 1454.16
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Jeez, I only get docked my paycheck if I don't show up for work.
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#5 Posted on 13.5.03 1555.15
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The problem for the Democrats is that when you pully a silly stunt like this, it just makes you look like an idiot, regarldess te valor of the cause you are defending.

Except that the state's newspapers and general state polling are both in favor of the action. Can you still look like an idiot when you're doing something that has majority support?

I think the funniest part of this so far is the Governor of New Mexico's response when the Texas gov. asked New Mexico and Oklahoma to allow the Texas Rangers jurisdiction to enter the state and arrest the runaway Dems (which both states denied):

"I have put out an all-points bulletin for law enforcement to be on the lookout for politicians in favor of health care for the needy and against tax cuts for the wealthy."
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#6 Posted on 13.5.03 1808.52
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    Originally posted by godking
    The problem for the Democrats is that when you pully a silly stunt like this, it just makes you look like an idiot, regarldess te valor of the cause you are defending.

    Except that the state's newspapers and general state polling are both in favor of the action. Can you still look like an idiot when you're doing something that has majority support?

    I think the funniest part of this so far is the Governor of New Mexico's response when the Texas gov. asked New Mexico and Oklahoma to allow the Texas Rangers jurisdiction to enter the state and arrest the runaway Dems (which both states denied):

    "I have put out an all-points bulletin for law enforcement to be on the lookout for politicians in favor of health care for the needy and against tax cuts for the wealthy."



I should tell that stupid bitch to FIX HER OWN STATE(the one I'm stuck in!) before making snide comments about more effeciantly ran states.

BTW, something the ignorant idiot might not realize.. in Texas, income tax wise, NO ONE pays taxes. There are no state taxes.
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#7 Posted on 13.5.03 1849.08
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    Originally posted by godking
    Can you still look like an idiot when you're doing something that has majority support?

According to you liberals, the President has mastered it.


    Originally posted by godking
    I think the funniest part of this so far is the Governor of New Mexico's response when the Texas gov. asked New Mexico and Oklahoma to allow the Texas Rangers jurisdiction to enter the state and arrest the runaway Dems (which both states denied):

    "I have put out an all-points bulletin for law enforcement to be on the lookout for politicians in favor of health care for the needy and against tax cuts for the wealthy."


It was the Attorney General, and she looks as silly as the Texas Dems. This is the kind of stupid stunt that could come back to haunt NM when they want to catch a real criminal. I doubt that the situation would get that hostile, but it could happen.
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#8 Posted on 13.5.03 2238.02
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According to you liberals, the President has mastered it.

The President never had majority support for his war. He had American support. There's quite a difference. Remember that whole "majority of the world opposing the war" thing?

It was the Attorney General, and she looks as silly as the Texas Dems. This is the kind of stupid stunt that could come back to haunt NM when they want to catch a real criminal.

Yes, because truly criminal acts equate to a political protest.
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#9 Posted on 14.5.03 0617.39
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    Originally posted by godking
    The President never had majority support for his war. He had American support. There's quite a difference. Remember that whole "majority of the world opposing the war" thing?

Don't equate apples to boats. If Texans support this nonsense, that's relevant. The rest of the world not supporting the war is like saying all of America is opposed to what these Texans are doing. Don't change the analogy. Support for the war was over Seventy percent.


EDIT: This entire thing is no approaching farce:

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Yup...Texas Democrat playing cards. Gotta catch'em all...



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#10 Posted on 14.5.03 1309.55
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This will backfire on them, just like it did when Gingrich shut down the federal government.

Dunnam and the gang are currently holed up in a Holiday Inn in Ardmore, Oklahoma. I think they've suffered enough.

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#11 Posted on 15.5.03 0134.27
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This whole thing started out kind of amusing, but it just got pretty damn scary.
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#12 Posted on 15.5.03 0302.33
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No offense, but that's pretty weak.
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#13 Posted on 15.5.03 0611.39
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The only reason I give this the slightest credence is the fact that the thing had a link to reputable paper. Anyway the fact of the matter is that the Texas legislators, no matter how ridiculous this all sounds, are fugatives from the law who have crossed state lines. This means there is federal jurisdiction to all of this, even though DHS involvement is a potential problem.
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#14 Posted on 15.5.03 0928.44
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If this was over the budget or something, I think it'd be a different story. But it's just over the rawest of raw politics. The GOP will hate them, Dems will love them, swing voters will blame both parties and the only voting effect this might have on them will be that they'll stay home next election. The only thing you can bank on will be that both parties will try to use it to raise a lot of money.

Let's see if they can hold out until Friday. Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo DEMS!
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#15 Posted on 15.5.03 0937.11
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Meanwhile Colorado is suing itself over their own redistricting issue.
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#16 Posted on 15.5.03 1228.00
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    If this was over the budget or something, I think it'd be a different story. But it's just over the rawest of raw politics. The GOP will hate them, Dems will love them, swing voters will blame both parties and the only voting effect this might have on them will be that they'll stay home next election. The only thing you can bank on will be that both parties will try to use it to raise a lot of money.

    Let's see if they can hold out until Friday. Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo DEMS!



I dont know about this... by leaving, the Democrats in Texas have virtually shut down the government. Remember the backlas when Gingrich shut down the US government?

This could spell doom for the Democrats in Texas. You don't just disappear when you know the votes wont go your way, You still votes- last time I checked, it was MAJORITY rules in a Republic... not minority...
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#17 Posted on 15.5.03 1322.26
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    Originally posted by Pool-Boy

      Originally posted by MoeGates
      If this was over the budget or something, I think it'd be a different story. But it's just over the rawest of raw politics. The GOP will hate them, Dems will love them, swing voters will blame both parties and the only voting effect this might have on them will be that they'll stay home next election. The only thing you can bank on will be that both parties will try to use it to raise a lot of money.

      Let's see if they can hold out until Friday. Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo DEMS!



    I dont know about this... by leaving, the Democrats in Texas have virtually shut down the government. Remember the backlas when Gingrich shut down the US government?

    This could spell doom for the Democrats in Texas. You don't just disappear when you know the votes wont go your way, You still votes- last time I checked, it was MAJORITY rules in a Republic... not minority...



So, have all government offices shut down, or only the legislature? I've only heard that the house has shut down. IIRC, people were only po'ed at the Gingrich shutdown because the functions of many gov't departments ceased. I don't think that many people would really care if all that happened was that the House shut down.
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#18 Posted on 19.5.03 0928.58
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Only the legislature was shut down. But apparently 400 bills died on Friday when they didn't meet procedural deadlines, in addition to the redistricting bill. This complicates things becauuse the Texas legislature only meets every two years.
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