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Zeruel Thirty Millionth Hit Moderator Level: 132 Posts: 1606/5254 EXP: 26808489 For next: 323515 Since: 2.1.02 From: The Silver Spring in the Land of Mary. Since last post: 11 days Last activity: 3 days # 1 Posted on 4.4.03 0105.53 Reposted on: 4.4.10 0110.13 need stat help... i couldn't find on nhl.com or espn.com on any info on what a +/- stat means or how it's calculated. can anyone explain it to me? Promote this thread!
fuelinjected Banger Level: 98 Posts: 942/2679 EXP: 9478880 For next: 175507 Since: 12.10.02 From: Canada Since last post: 3540 days Last activity: 3540 days # 2 Posted on 4.4.03 0114.06 Reposted on: 4.4.10 0114.42 If a player is on the ice when his team scores, he gets a +1. If he's on the ice when a goal is scored against his team, he gets a -1.
Jaguar Knackwurst Level: 108 Posts: 1436/3273 EXP: 13153205 For next: 367338 Since: 23.1.02 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 477 days Last activity: 278 days # 3 Posted on 4.4.03 0200.54 Reposted on: 4.4.10 0202.48 You don't get a +1 for a goal during a Power Play, though. At least, that's what NHL Hitz has lead me to believe.... -Jag
Keeper Blutwurst Moderator Level: 35 Posts: 25/249 EXP: 274965 For next: 4973 Since: 1.3.02 From: Worcester, MA Since last post: 106 days Last activity: 8 hours # 4 Posted on 4.4.03 0839.29 Reposted on: 4.4.10 0841.44 That is correct. You only get a plus or a minus on even strength goals, so shorthand and power play goals don't count.
Jaguar Knackwurst Level: 108 Posts: 1437/3273 EXP: 13153205 For next: 367338 Since: 23.1.02 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 477 days Last activity: 278 days # 5 Posted on 4.4.03 1044.35 Reposted on: 4.4.10 1046.02 You don't get a + for a short handed goal? What a ripoff. You should get a +2. -Jag
Keeper Blutwurst Moderator Level: 35 Posts: 26/249 EXP: 274965 For next: 4973 Since: 1.3.02 From: Worcester, MA Since last post: 106 days Last activity: 8 hours # 6 Posted on 4.4.03 1055.56 Reposted on: 4.4.10 1059.02 I made a mistake. You do get a plus or minus for a shorthanded goal. I was going by what I have been told over and over by the local announcers. I looked around a bit to verify that the information was correct and found this link, which states: When an even-strength or shorthanded goal is scored, every player on the ice for the team scoring the goal is credited with a plus. Every player on the ice for the team scored against gets a minus. A player's overall total is calculated by subtracting the minuses from the pluses. A high plus total is taken to suggest that a guy is a good defensive player. I verified it on another site, so I apologize for the misinformation.
Big Bad Scrapple Level: 148 Posts: 1013/6863 EXP: 40017152 For next: 361606 Since: 4.1.02 From: Dorchester, Ontario Since last post: 50 min. Last activity: 27 min. # 7 Posted on 5.4.03 0257.58 Reposted on: 5.4.10 0258.25 The all-time record for plus/minus is Bobby Orr, who had a +- of over 100 one season. That's insane.
J.T. Dutch Pickled pork Level: 32 Posts: 86/197 EXP: 194632 For next: 11812 Since: 3.1.02 From: SoCal 4 Life Since last post: 2950 days Last activity: 1211 days
Y!: # 8 Posted on 5.4.03 0827.40 Reposted on: 5.4.10 0827.48 ... Orr's +/- was +124, but I believe that those on the ice when a PP goal was scored were credited with pluses at that time. That isn't the case anymore. I think the highest +/- since the new standards came into effect is Wayne Gretzky's +98 in 1984-85.
tarnish Landjager Level: 61 Posts: 273/862 EXP: 1774030 For next: 102577 Since: 13.2.02 From: Back in the Heart of Hali Since last post: 49 days Last activity: 4 hours
Y!: # 9 Posted on 5.4.03 2319.27 Reposted on: 5.4.10 2322.13 What makes the gaudy plus/minus ratings of Gretzky and Orr even more absurd is the fact that they were both on the ice for somewhere around half of any given game (well, Gretzky not quite half and Orr just over half). A plus/minus of +20 or better is excellent--only 30 or so guys in the league this year did better. Forsberg and Hedjuk lead the league with +50, which I'd consider pretty ridiculous; but numbers like +98 and +124 are not of this world.
dMp Banger Level: 100 Posts: 1140/2765 EXP: 10232917 For next: 121515 Since: 4.1.02 From: The Hague, Netherlands (Europe) Since last post: 14 days Last activity: 8 hours # 10 Posted on 7.4.03 0846.56 Reposted on: 7.4.10 0848.21 Usually the +/- ratings are led by the best defenders (who also know how to score/pass) or by good two way forwards like Lidstrom, Pronger or Forsberg. I believe around +50 is the standard for the winner of this category at the end of the season.
PhilRippa Chourico Level: 36 Posts: 194/267 EXP: 307064 For next: 1049 Since: 4.1.02 From: Fairfax, VA Since last post: 2232 days Last activity: 837 days # 11 Posted on 8.4.03 1157.54 Reposted on: 8.4.10 1159.01 This year's top 10 was 1 P. Forsberg (COL,LW) +52 Milan Hejduk (COL,RW) +52 3 N. Lidstrom (DET,D) +40 4 Jere Lehtinen (DAL,RW) +39 5 D. Hatcher (DAL,D) +37 6 Mike Modano (DAL,C) +34 Alex Tanguay (COL,LW) +34 8 E. Desjardins (PHI,D) +30 Adam Foote (COL,D) +30 10 Zdeno Chara (OTT,D) +29 So, as you can see, it helps to have Patrick Roy or Marty Turco as your goaltender :-P Phil
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