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Zeruel
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#1 Posted on 4.4.03 0105.53
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need stat help...

i couldn't find on nhl.com or espn.com on any info on what a +/- stat means or how it's calculated.

can anyone explain it to me?
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#2 Posted on 4.4.03 0114.06
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If a player is on the ice when his team scores, he gets a +1. If he's on the ice when a goal is scored against his team, he gets a -1.

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#3 Posted on 4.4.03 0200.54
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You don't get a +1 for a goal during a Power Play, though. At least, that's what NHL Hitz has lead me to believe....

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#4 Posted on 4.4.03 0839.29
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That is correct. You only get a plus or a minus on even strength goals, so shorthand and power play goals don't count.
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#5 Posted on 4.4.03 1044.35
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You don't get a + for a short handed goal? What a ripoff. You should get a +2.

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#6 Posted on 4.4.03 1055.56
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I made a mistake. You do get a plus or minus for a shorthanded goal. I was going by what I have been told over and over by the local announcers. I looked around a bit to verify that the information was correct and found this link, which states:

When an even-strength or shorthanded goal is scored, every player on the ice for the team scoring the goal is credited with a plus. Every player on the ice for the team scored against gets a minus. A player's overall total is calculated by subtracting the minuses from the pluses. A high plus total is taken to suggest that a guy is a good defensive player.

I verified it on another site, so I apologize for the misinformation.
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#7 Posted on 5.4.03 0257.58
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The all-time record for plus/minus is Bobby Orr, who had a +- of over 100 one season. That's insane.
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#8 Posted on 5.4.03 0827.40
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... Orr's +/- was +124, but I believe that those on the ice when a PP goal was scored were credited with pluses at that time. That isn't the case anymore.

I think the highest +/- since the new standards came into effect is Wayne Gretzky's +98 in 1984-85.
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#9 Posted on 5.4.03 2319.27
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What makes the gaudy plus/minus ratings of Gretzky and Orr even more absurd is the fact that they were both on the ice for somewhere around half of any given game (well, Gretzky not quite half and Orr just over half).

A plus/minus of +20 or better is excellent--only 30 or so guys in the league this year did better. Forsberg and Hedjuk lead the league with +50, which I'd consider pretty ridiculous; but numbers like +98 and +124 are not of this world.
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#10 Posted on 7.4.03 0846.56
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Usually the +/- ratings are led by the best defenders (who also know how to score/pass) or by good two way forwards like Lidstrom, Pronger or Forsberg.

I believe around +50 is the standard for the winner of this category at the end of the season.

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#11 Posted on 8.4.03 1157.54
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This year's top 10 was

1 P. Forsberg (COL,LW) +52
Milan Hejduk (COL,RW) +52
3 N. Lidstrom (DET,D) +40
4 Jere Lehtinen (DAL,RW) +39
5 D. Hatcher (DAL,D) +37
6 Mike Modano (DAL,C) +34
Alex Tanguay (COL,LW) +34
8 E. Desjardins (PHI,D) +30
Adam Foote (COL,D) +30
10 Zdeno Chara (OTT,D) +29

So, as you can see, it helps to have Patrick Roy or Marty Turco as your goaltender :-P

Phil
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