The W
[slash] time is
HAPPY EZBOARD+7 DAY
Views: 100295833
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Color chart | Log in for more!
1.11.07 0742
The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Brock Lesnar Register and log in to post!
(6049 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (20 total)
brethart1975
Braunschweiger
Level: 10

Posts: 10/14
EXP: 3435
For next: 979

Since: 21.1.03

Since last post: 3529 days
Last activity: 3426 days
#1 Posted on 27.3.03 2214.41
Reposted on: 27.3.10 2215.37
I'm a little confused.

This guy won the King of the Ring, Unified World Heavyweight Title at SummerSlam, The Royal Rumble and is main eventing WRESTLEMANIA(which he'll probably win the title at). My question is, WHAT ELSE IS THERE FOR HIM TO DO IN THE REMAINDER OF HIS CAREER?!

Win the title over and over again. How long do you think before he becomes too stale to do anything with? Is he gonna persue another career like acting? I doubt it.

What do you think?
Promote this thread!
Firecracker
Salami
Level: 32

Posts: 61/204
EXP: 195684
For next: 10760

Since: 26.6.02
From: Miami, FL

Since last post: 3590 days
Last activity: 3425 days
AIM:  
#2 Posted on 27.3.03 2218.43
Reposted on: 27.3.10 2220.56
He hasn't even been here a year yet... there's plenty of stuff he can do and lots of people to feud with. Then turn him heel and he's got a whole new slew of things to do and ppl to feud with. Other wrestlers like Angle, Rock, Hogan, Austin, and Taker have accomplished just about everything, and yet they're still (for the most part) interesting. Brock will be the same way.
fuelinjected
Banger
Level: 97

Posts: 923/2679
EXP: 9201301
For next: 116057

Since: 12.10.02
From: Canada

Since last post: 3271 days
Last activity: 3271 days
#3 Posted on 27.3.03 2305.21
Reposted on: 27.3.10 2306.35
Be the first guy in WWE to beat Goldberg. Yeah, wishful thinking, I know.
The Vile1
Lap cheong
Level: 80

Posts: 147/1694
EXP: 4646031
For next: 136958

Since: 4.9.02
From: California

Since last post: 2021 days
Last activity: 1753 days
#4 Posted on 27.3.03 2313.41
Reposted on: 27.3.10 2317.25
Well Brock Lesnar has yet to wrestle Chris Benoit since he showed up, or at least a not in a match that was televised or on PPV. If Lesnar wins the title on sunday, I think he's got some good prospect feuds and matches lined up with people like Chris Benoit, Rhyno, and maybe John Cena. Maybe John Cena will show up during or after Lesnar's title match with Angle, but WWE seems to be building up something with those two already. I think after Lesnar has his thing with Cena, hopefully WWE will be smart enough to build up to Benoit/Lesnar or something like that over the summer. I think that'd be a great summer feud for Smackdown.
brethart1975
Braunschweiger
Level: 10

Posts: 11/14
EXP: 3435
For next: 979

Since: 21.1.03

Since last post: 3529 days
Last activity: 3426 days
#5 Posted on 27.3.03 2332.13
Reposted on: 27.3.10 2333.25
My point is that these days a rise to the top is getting shorter and shorter. I don't mean just past this year, i mean years and years down the line...

Isn't it a very likely possibility that Brock will get stale? He's done virtually everything in such a short amount of time. He didn't even win a lesser title before his first world title run.
Lord of the Manor
Chourico
Level: 36

Posts: 62/280
EXP: 306075
For next: 2038

Since: 24.2.03
From: London, United Kingdom

Since last post: 613 days
Last activity: 535 days
#6 Posted on 27.3.03 2342.07
Reposted on: 27.3.10 2342.38

    Originally posted by brethart1975
    My point is that these days a rise to the top is getting shorter and shorter. I don't mean just past this year, i mean years and years down the line...

    Isn't it a very likely possibility that Brock will get stale? He's done virtually everything in such a short amount of time. He didn't even win a lesser title before his first world title run.



I think they did what they had to do with Brock. They needed to make him a legit main eventer and that was basically the only real way to do so.

The thing with Brock that I think will keep him frsh is that he still has so much untapped potential. We'll probably get a taste of it during his match with Angle. Brock should have the rare capibility of being able to adapt his style at any given time. We've basically only see him as a power wreslter. In time we'll probably see him as a mat wrestler, a brawler, and possibly a submission style wrestler. There's a lot that can be done with him to keep him from getting stale, as long at the WWE utilizes him properly.
EddieBurkett
Boudin blanc
Level: 92

Posts: 396/2316
EXP: 7629065
For next: 127902

Since: 3.1.02
From: GA in person, NJ in heart

Since last post: 4 days
Last activity: 15 hours
#7 Posted on 28.3.03 0055.19
Reposted on: 28.3.10 0056.09
As far as accomplishments go, there's always the tag titles.
ekedolphin
Scrapple
Level: 132

Posts: 1615/5387
EXP: 27037534
For next: 94470

Since: 12.1.02
From: Indianapolis, IN; now residing in Suffolk, VA

Since last post: 135 days
Last activity: 8 days
#8 Posted on 28.3.03 0655.37
Reposted on: 28.3.10 0658.15
Well, if they decided to push someone else as WWE Champ for awhile, they could always give Brock the Intercon--

...oops.

(Not that I think that'd be a good idea anyway).
Big Bad
Scrapple
Level: 146

Posts: 933/6744
EXP: 37905011
For next: 608375

Since: 4.1.02
From: Dorchester, Ontario

Since last post: 4 hours
Last activity: 4 hours
#9 Posted on 28.3.03 1021.57
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1028.15
But has he ever beaten the Red Rooster? Hell no.
SchippeWreck
Banger
Level: 96

Posts: 28/2658
EXP: 8920735
For next: 68084

Since: 26.3.03
From: Glendale, CA

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 7 hours
#10 Posted on 28.3.03 1028.55
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1029.03

    Originally posted by Lord of the Manor
    The thing with Brock that I think will keep him frsh is that he still has so much untapped potential. We'll probably get a taste of it during his match with Angle.

Shooting Star Press maybe? Please oh please oh please....
(As long as he doesn't land on Angle's neck...)
asteroidboy
Andouille
Level: 91

Posts: 1097/2241
EXP: 7246355
For next: 222586

Since: 22.1.02
From: Texas

Since last post: 1438 days
Last activity: 346 days
#11 Posted on 28.3.03 1030.40
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1031.35
This has probably been discussed before, but has anyone ever been given as big of a push as Brock has gotten? Kurt Angle comes to mind, but he wasn't made to look as dominant, and he didn't go over in all of the big PPVs, like Brock has, excluding Survivor Series.
TheMarketingMajor
Bauerwurst
Level: 24

Posts: 97/101
EXP: 69478
For next: 8648

Since: 2.1.02
From: University of Pittsburgh, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Since last post: 4215 days
Last activity: 4166 days
AIM:  
#12 Posted on 28.3.03 1034.27
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1037.05
Although I would never wish it on anyone, injuries do inevitably pop up and return from injury angles always give on opportunity to refresh a character.
Monte
Mettwurst
Level: 29

Posts: 18/172
EXP: 146826
For next: 1060

Since: 27.3.03
From: Montauk, New York

Since last post: 1691 days
Last activity: 1689 days
AIM:  
#13 Posted on 28.3.03 1113.55
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1114.49
I think they built up Brock so fast because they were unsure on whether they would lock up Billy G. Brock served as a perfect Goldberg-esque character. Now that they have signed Goldberg I hope and pray that they don't drop Brock down in importance. Kind of the same way they brought Stiener on when they were puzzled on the whole Austin situation, only difference being Stiener can't wrestle. Goldberg has a creative control clause in his newly structured contract, so I would expect a winning streak to start off his WWE career and build him up tremendously. As much as I think Goldberg will eventually be some what of a cancer to the company, it was neccesary for Vince to sign him. They need ratings and need them bad.

(edited by Monte on 28.3.03 1014)
The Vile1
Lap cheong
Level: 80

Posts: 150/1694
EXP: 4646031
For next: 136958

Since: 4.9.02
From: California

Since last post: 2021 days
Last activity: 1753 days
#14 Posted on 28.3.03 1235.38
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1244.40
That's the problem Monte. Even though Goldberg is a long term cancer to the company, its ok he was signed because they need ratings bad. When is WWE going to learn that bringing back every broken down former draw doesn't work. Even Goldberg. WWE is obviously pushing the panic button due to the loss of some stars due to injury and we know that never works out well if you all remember the invasion. Stars WWE was building up like Randy Orton and Batista are out for a while. Rock and Angle are going to be gone soon. Edge is out. How much longer will Austin be around before he ups and leaves again? And Hogan/McMahon is being built up to be the big match to see this sunday even though it will probably be the worst match on the card.

Here's hoping Brock and Angle get the last match on sunday.
SKLOKAZOID
Bratwurst
Level: 75

Posts: 305/1444
EXP: 3725168
For next: 101753

Since: 20.3.02
From: California

Since last post: 14 hours
Last activity: 3 hours
AIM:  
#15 Posted on 28.3.03 1323.14
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1329.01
People can talk about Brock Lesnar changing his style, facing new opponents, and winning secondary titles all they want, but they're missing out on the fact that there is a real lack of a driving force behind him and his quest to win the WWE Title. I couldn't care less about him overcoming the challenge of Kurt Angle. Angle's a much better wrestler, and a more likeable and entertaining guy. How can I possibly get behind Brock? With this news of Angle's "life-threatening" injury, doesn't that make Angle's quest to hold onto the title even more interesting than Brock's pursuit? Well, it looks like WWE's going with the less interesting story. Again.

What challenges can Brock face after beating Angle? It looks like they have a good "washed up" storyline that they could run, where Brock has to live up to his previous success that he had so long ago (3 months of him losing his 2nd title). Like a child prodigy who burned out and lost all potential because he lived up to it at such a young age, but even then, is this Brock at his peak? If so, I never want to see him achieve it again anyway.

It's no coincidence that Goldberg's name came to mind when thinking about Brock's push. Keep in mind that he was only a draw for about three months back in 1998. He was WCW's most popular star in 1998 (In 1999 and beyond, I find it arguable), but what has he accomplished since then? It looks like the only thing he has done recently is convince Vince McMahon, with help from The Rock, that his success in 1998 justifies a high spot on the card now and who knows how many millions of dollars?

After signing Goldberg, there's no more false answers. WWE is going to have to accept what it has become.
rlbehan
Chipolata
Level: 25

Posts: 68/118
EXP: 85992
For next: 3629

Since: 6.7.02
From: Albany

Since last post: 3273 days
Last activity: 2056 days
#16 Posted on 28.3.03 1357.15
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1359.01

    Originally posted by The Vile1
    That's the problem Monte. Even though Goldberg is a long term cancer to the company, its ok he was signed because they need ratings bad. When is WWE going to learn that bringing back every broken down former draw doesn't work. Even Goldberg. WWE is obviously pushing the panic button due to the loss of some stars due to injury and we know that never works out well if you all remember the invasion. Stars WWE was building up like Randy Orton and Batista are out for a while. Rock and Angle are going to be gone soon. Edge is out. How much longer will Austin be around before he ups and leaves again? And Hogan/McMahon is being built up to be the big match to see this sunday even though it will probably be the worst match on the card.

    Here's hoping Brock and Angle get the last match on sunday.



I don't really have a problem with the business decision to try out a WCW retread and have him work some magic in the WWE. Sometimes it will work, (often it won't) but remember there are a number of current upper to main event people who came out of a long run in the WCW and have done well, and are worth watching. Even so, there are not a lot of them left to sign, so let vince get it out of his system, and it wont be an issue much longer. The future of wrestling is always building, though, and sooner or later a few more of the young guys will break the glass ceiling and shove the old guard out of the way. In the end, it is the fans that decide who they want to see. I am pretty convinced Vince knows how to make money in wrestling, and while it may take a while to realize who is drawing the heat and bringing in the money, he'll figure it out. It was not so long ago we were hearing complaints about Jericho not getting his due, and now he is always involved at the top level. Sometimes we get our wish if we wait a few months down the road.
Biggs316
Longanisa
Level: 15

Posts: 15/36
EXP: 14431
For next: 1953

Since: 12.8.02
From: Grayling, Michigan

Since last post: 4207 days
Last activity: 3024 days
#17 Posted on 28.3.03 1432.09
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1433.26
i realy hate to be a moran, but what does "the glass ceiling" mean? I've heard of it before, but I never knew what it meant. Thanks.
Monte
Mettwurst
Level: 29

Posts: 20/172
EXP: 146826
For next: 1060

Since: 27.3.03
From: Montauk, New York

Since last post: 1691 days
Last activity: 1689 days
AIM:  
#18 Posted on 28.3.03 1447.09
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1448.22
I actually don't have much of a problem with Goldberg being signed. It is the Scott Stieners' and the Big Show's I have trouble with. Goldberg may not be the highest quality wrestler in the buisness, but he is a huge draw and will always hit his spots. I think it is a good buisness move to sign him. I wouldn't be surprised if WWE ratings go up in the next few weeks as they could serve as a very good diversion to the war. Mike Tenay puts it best, "Only time will tell..."
sentonBOMB
Frankfurter
Level: 58

Posts: 260/806
EXP: 1510721
For next: 66834

Since: 25.11.02
From: Jersey

Since last post: 1983 days
Last activity: 683 days
#19 Posted on 28.3.03 1448.33
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1449.54
the "glass ceiling" is the idea that you can see the top, but can't break through to it. it was used a lot when talking about minorities in this country being able to get to a certain point within the corporate or sports worlds but never being able to break through to the top.

in the wrestling world, people use it to mean that new guys generally have trouble breaking through to the top level because of the "good old boys" at the top. it used to be used to apply to wcw, where it seemed no one could reach the top who wasn't a washed-up former wwf start; now it's used to apply to the wwe because it's generally the same people at the top all the time, and new stars cannot seem to reach main event level.
Biggs316
Longanisa
Level: 15

Posts: 16/36
EXP: 14431
For next: 1953

Since: 12.8.02
From: Grayling, Michigan

Since last post: 4207 days
Last activity: 3024 days
#20 Posted on 28.3.03 1509.13
Reposted on: 28.3.10 1515.04
Thank you very much!
ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE
Thread ahead: Steve Blackman
Next thread: Smackdown and Velocity taping 3-25 SPOILER
Previous thread: Brand Split
(6049 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Brock LesnarRegister and log in to post!

The W™ message board - 7 year recycle

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim
This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.324 seconds.