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#1 Posted on 28.2.03 1213.24
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Starting Monday, it's gonna be 411mania.com. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't site re-designs a sign of impending doom?
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#2 Posted on 28.2.03 1219.01
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That's what happened to ign.com after their big overhaul. They dumped the wrestling section, trimmed down the overbloated writing staff (which 411 already has), and things eventually got so bad they made you PAY for shit that you could get anywhere else on the net for free. Looks like Widro and Ashish are going for that same niche that IGN tried to create for itself (all mens stuff.) I'll give them 3 months before the fat trimming begins...
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#3 Posted on 28.2.03 1234.24
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The site could use some cleaning up and better organization.
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#4 Posted on 28.2.03 1433.01
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I'm also thinking about wrestleline.com (or was that what you were talking about, Venom?). They did a big redesign, then were quickly out of business.

411 is always slow to load on my work computer for some reason. That only started after their most recent re-design, about six months ago, I'm estimating.
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#5 Posted on 28.2.03 1558.44
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2 re-designs in 6 months? That cant be good.
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#6 Posted on 28.2.03 1638.54
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last redesign was sept 2001.
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#7 Posted on 28.2.03 1650.14
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Why do most people equate change with bad? It is no different at the office I work at. If you think that something can be improved by changing it, people instantly begin to scream the sky is falling.

Give it shot, you might like it. If not, than come back here and give it hell.

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#8 Posted on 28.2.03 1726.28
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Dont forget scoops went down hill after they killed the BIG RED LINE
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#9 Posted on 28.2.03 1741.19
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    Originally posted by Scooter Trash
    Why do most people equate change with bad?




I think if most people have something that WORKS WELL, they'd prefer to leave it alone and let it do it's thing. I think a little improvement to anything is always welcome, but a complete over-haul is usually seen as a sign that somebody somewhere isnt happy with the results they're getting with whatever we're talking about's (sports team, website, work force, design, etc.) current state.
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#10 Posted on 1.3.03 0406.11
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    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    I'm also thinking about wrestleline.com (or was that what you were talking about, Venom?). They did a big redesign, then were quickly out of business.

    411 is always slow to load on my work computer for some reason. That only started after their most recent re-design, about six months ago, I'm estimating.



Nope...Ign.com, aka snowball.com or something. I was with it during it's beginings in 98 and 99 when it was just a movie review and science fiction site, then in 2000 they blew up to include cars, booze, wrestling, video games for all platforms, dating, movies, sci fi, comics, and technology. After that, they completely collapsed due to more spending and actually demanded that you pay to use their boards and view the fresh material posted. They still do to this day.

It's not so much fear of change, it's just the precedent set by other sites like wrestline and scoops as pointed out.
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#11 Posted on 1.3.03 0634.31
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... I'm sure the domain name "411popups.com" was out there. It would have fit like a glove.
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#12 Posted on 3.3.03 0201.18
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I think 411 is in pretty good shape, even without the "usual suspects". With TheSmarks officially joining the main site, it does fill up some holes (Sunday News, plus a couple of video reviwers).
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#13 Posted on 3.3.03 0344.15
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Well, Ive just gone and had a look at the new look now and I must admit I'm not overly keen on the new look. They've retained the basic of the old look as far as set up, which probably isn't too bad a thing at all since it worked so well. But the colour scheme I certainly don't like. I think there are far too many colours and makes it seem more complex than it actually is, the text graphics are almost "kiddy geared".

Scott Keith's name is missing under the contacts list. He maybe under one of the other sections, I just looked under wrestling.

All that aside, if the content is as good as before they should do ok.

For those that have pop-up probs and on a PC, try this;

www.southbaypc.com/NoAds/

has worked for me, though you do need to add files to a database to prevent them from popping up.

(edited by Crip on 3.3.03 0146)
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#14 Posted on 3.3.03 0431.01
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Wow. That's ugly.

I am nevertheless certain that my abhorrence of the presentation will be more than made up for by the crisp and insightful writing from the veteran movie critics and journalists on the site.

(edited by Jeb Tennyson Lund on 3.3.03 0531)
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#15 Posted on 3.3.03 0441.33
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Ick. That looks almost exactly like my roomate's blog, and that's NOT a good thing. Not at all.

It's about as well organized too.
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#16 Posted on 3.3.03 0807.43
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Jesus, did the merge with Nickelodeon?

On the bright side, they upped the font size so I don't have to resize it every time I visit there.
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#17 Posted on 3.3.03 0840.13
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Ah, I don't think it's all bad. Orange is somewhat questionable, but I like the black text/white background.

Lots more ads, though...
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#18 Posted on 3.3.03 1019.28
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I think my brain just exploded looking at that.
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#19 Posted on 3.3.03 1140.20
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I think it looks more professional than the old site did, but that's IMHO. Although I'd like it if the wrestling and games section were at the top, rather than movies and music (mind you I'm biased about the games).
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#20 Posted on 3.3.03 1141.25
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Could they have picked a redesign that would've taken LONGER to load?

Well, I guess it could've been a flash site...
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