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#1 Posted on 23.10.06 1546.39
Reposted on: 23.10.13 1546.53
THE STATE OF THE BCS - Week 2

My apologies for not getting your BCS fix out with the first week of the listings last week. Blame it on the usual real-life crap and such.

CURRENT BCS STANDINGS
The bracketed sequence following a team's name in the BCS standings refers to (in order) the team's Harris Interactive poll ranking, the team's USA Today coaches' poll ranking, and the average of the six computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Richard Billingsley, Colley Matrix, Kenneth Massey, Jeff Sagarin, and Peter Wolfe). The average of these three rankings determines the team's BCS ranking. For the full listing, check ESPN (sports.espn.go.com), which provides a more detailed breakdown than the "official" listing at FOX Sports.

1. Ohio State [1, 1, 3]
2. Michigan [2, 3, T1] (+1)
3. Southern California [3, 2, T1] (-1)
4. West Virginia [4, 4, 14] (+1)
5. Auburn [7, 7, 6] (-1)
6. Florida [9, 8, 4]
7. Texas [5, 5, 13] (+2)
8. Louisville [6, 6, 9] (-1)
9. Notre Dame [10, 10, 8] (-1)
10. California-Berkeley [11, 12, 5]
11. Tennessee [8, 9, 11]
12. Clemson [12, 11, 15]
13. Arkansas [14, 13, 10]
14. Rutgers [15, 16, 7] (+2)
15. Boise State [16, 15, 12]
16. Louisiana State [13, 13, 20] (+2)

With a lot of close games in the top 25 this past weekend, it was a weekend of slight adjustments rather than major ones. The big story continues to be the wide disparity between the human polls and the computer rankings, usually (in my opinion) to the computers' fault. It's a widely held belief that the SEC is a far more challenging conference with more extensive parity than the Pac-10 (born out by Arkansas being the only team in the twelve-team SEC to be undefeated in conference play, while the Pac-10 has two in ten, Cal & USC) and yet the SEC continues to play second-fiddle to the Pac-10 in the BCS. It's an injustice that will hopefully be corrected in USC's case in the next month by one of Oregon, Cal, or Notre Dame.

The other big injustice of the week: Clemson dominates a tough Georgia Tech team, and gets absolutely no bounce up the rankings from it whatsoever despite both Tennessee and Cal needing last-second or overtime efforts to survive. As much as the ACC as a whole is down this year, Clemson proved with this one that they're among the elite and deserved the recognition as such, especially considering that if things play out to the chalk, that missed extra-point in double overtime against Boston College could come back to haunt them.

PROJECTED BERTHS
Projected berths are based on a team's record in conference play. Teams with an equal number of losses are considered to be in the same tier. (This means that a 3-0 record in conference play would be just as good as a 5-0 record and better than a 4-1 record for the purposes of projections.) Mandated conference tiebreakers are used where possible to break ties for automatic conference berths (for conferences that do not have title games) or bids to conference title games. In the case of a tie that cannot be broken, or in the instance where the two teams projected to meet for a conference title have the same record in conference play, the tied teams' BCS ranking is used to break the tie.

MAJOR CONFERENCES
ACC: Boston College (def. Georgia Tech)
Big East: West Virginia
Big Ten: Ohio State
Big 12: Texas (def. Missouri)
Pac-10: Southern California
SEC: Arkansas (def. Florida)

OTHER BIDS
Non-BCS Conference Auto Bid: None
Other Auto Bids: Michigan (Big Ten; #2)
At-Large Entries: Auburn (SEC), Louisville (Big East), Notre Dame (Independent)

The big question with these projections (for the next few weeks, likely) will probably be, how can Ohio State & Michigan end up #1 and #2 if they finish their regular seasons against each other? While the logical knee-jerk reaction would be that the loser would drop out of national championship game positioning, it's actually quite possible (especially if Ohio State is the one to lose, and in close fashion) that the drop would be enough for them to still get a title game shot. The caveat to this is that both teams would have to win out prior to the Big Game and that USC (the only team who's a threat to either Ohio State or Michigan at this point) would have to lose somewhere along the way; a prospect I personally consider quite likely to play out in both regards. The precedent for this, by the way, is Oklahoma's 2003 Big 12 title game annihilation at the hands of Kansas State, which wasn't even enough to knock them out of the #1 BCS slot!

Another question to consider is that of Notre Dame. In the new by-laws, they must finish #8 or higher for a slot in the BCS to be guaranteed. However, if at-large bids are available, the eligibility standards are the same for them as everybody else (nine wins, top 14 BCS finish) - with the difference being that the likelihood of Notre Dame being chosen at-large is far greater due to its national profile compared to, say, Louisville. So barring a major upset (Navy presents their last test of any form before the USC game Thanksgiving weekend), Notre Dame is good to go BCS-wise.

The team in the most trouble, however, is Florida. With Auburn ahead of them in the BCS rankings and the projected conference winner behind them in the rankings, it is likely imperative that Florida win the SEC title game in order to get into a bowl game, since BCS by-laws limit conferences to two BCS entries regardless of ranking. That win over Tennessee grows larger in importance as the weeks pass by.

PROJECTED MATCHUPS
National Championship Game: Ohio State v. Michigan
Rose Bowl: Southern California v. Notre Dame
Orange Bowl: Boston College v. Auburn
Fiesta Bowl: Texas v. Louisville
Sugar Bowl: Arkansas v. West Virginia

Big Ten champion Ohio State & Big Ten auto-entry Michigan are automatically placed into the National Championship Game due to their #1 & #2 rankings, respectively. Pac-10 champion Southern California is placed into the Rose Bowl, SEC champion Arkansas is placed into the Sugar Bowl, ACC champion Boston College is placed into the Orange Bowl, and Big 12 champion Texas is placed into the Fiesta Bowl due to traditional conference tie-ins.

Since the Rose Bowl loses one of its conference champions to the title game, it gets to replace that team before the other bowls make their selections. It chooses independent at-large Notre Dame to be its second representative. (The Rose Bowl, according to BCS by-laws, gets top priority over all BCS games other than the National Championship Game in filling its vacancies.)

Priority for the remaining selections is based on a bowl's proximity to the National Championship Game in scheduling, with games scheduled nearer to the Championship Game receiving higher priority. Based on this, the BCS has established the following priority order for this year's bowls:

1. Sugar Bowl
2. Orange Bowl
3. Fiesta Bowl

The new BCS by-laws do not impose restrictions on selecting teams for final allocations in the vein like "conference champions cannot be listed last" as in previous years. Hence, it is prudent to presume that the remaining selections will be made in order of BCS rankings (with exceptions made where needed to avoid matching teams from the same conference against each other). Fortunately, this is not needed here: Big East champion West Virginia is selected by the Sugar Bowl, SEC at-large Auburn is selected by the Orange Bowl, and Big East at-large Louisville is selected by the Fiesta Bowl.

It is possible that the conferences, Notre Dame and the BCS would agree to move Notre Dame out of the Rose Bowl in order to provide a different matchup other than a repeat of the season-ending matchup between Notre Dame and Southern California. The likelihood of the Rose Bowl strongly resisting such a move, however, is quite high. Also note that for obvious reasons, no shifting would be made to affect the National Championship Game, even if (as projected) it involves the meeting of two teams from the same conference.

(BTW, CRZ... Any chance you could add the BCS logo that this thread is using to the icons list so I don't have to add it as a custom each time? Much thanks in advance.)

(edited by Texas Kelly on 23.10.06 1707)

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#2 Posted on 23.10.06 1938.37
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I still think Notre Dame's toughest test prior to USC is at Air Force. Altitude plus Air Force's history against Notre Dame seems more of a challenge than Navy, who lost their QB 2 weeks ago and hasn't beaten Notre Dame since Staubach in '63.
I know they aren't mathematically there yet, but odds are Boise State will be playing in the Fiesta Bowl due to their likely going unbeaten and teams in front of them falling due to head-to-head match-ups.
If West Virginia were to win out, they probably finish ahead of the Michigan/Ohio State loser, particularly if a Texas loss was coupled with the Ohio State loss or a Notre Dame loss was coupled with a Michigan loss. Having their top victory have 2 losses rather than 1 would damage them in the computers.

A couple of projections. First, based on USC and Ohio State winning out.

BCS Title Game: Ohio State vs. USC.
Rose: Michigan vs. Texas(should they win the Big XII).
Sugar: SEC Champ vs. Notre Dame.
Orange: ACC Champ vs. 1 loss SEC Team.
Fiesta: Big East Champ vs. Boise State.

Michigan and USC win out

BCS Title Game: Michigan vs. USC.
Rose: Ohio State vs. Notre Dame.
Sugar: SEC Champ vs. Big East Champ.
Orange: ACC Champ vs. 1 loss SEC Team.
Fiesta: Texas(Big XII Champ) vs. Boise State.

No USC win out and unbeaten Big East champ.

BCS Title Game: Ohio State/Michigan vs. unbeaten Big East Champ.
Rose: Ohio State/Michigan loser vs. USC or Cal if Cal beats USC.
Sugar: SEC Champ vs. Notre Dame.
Orange: ACC Champ vs. USC.
Fiesta: Texas vs Boise State.

USC loses and Big East loses leaves too many scenarios to guess at this point. If you are the Fiesta, pray that someone knocks off Boise State(and this weekend vs. Idaho might have been the last shot), or that at the very least you get Texas.

(edited by redsoxnation on 23.10.06 2039)
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#3 Posted on 23.10.06 2057.11
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Quick problem...

Unless Boston College loses another conference game they will play for the ACC title, not Clemson.
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#4 Posted on 23.10.06 2258.45
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    Quick problem...

    Unless Boston College loses another conference game they will play for the ACC title, not Clemson.

Thanks for catching that error. I wasn't following my own guidelines! ;)
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#5 Posted on 24.10.06 0001.57
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Question re: the SEC-Let's say the following happens:

1) Auburn wins out
2. Arkansas loses to LSU, but beats Tennessee, and beats Florida in the SEC Championship game

If Auburn is high enough to be considered for the NCG, there's no way they could realistically place an Auburn team that didn't even win it's own division in it's own conference, right? Especially since their one loss came to the team that actually *won* the conference.

OR, if Auburn wins out, and Florida wins out, winning the SEC, that would potentially put a one-loss Florida team in the National Championship instead of the one-loss Auburn team that beat them-which, given the kvetching about Cal being ranked ahead of Tennessee that comes out of the SEC camp, would be a little more than hypocritical.

I mean, yeah for Arkansas' success and all that, but didn't they kinda throw a monkey wrench into the works? And would there actually be a clamoring for a TWO loss SEC Champion to be placed in the NCG?
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#6 Posted on 24.10.06 0051.53
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This was actually talked about I believe in the last College Football thread last week. It is possible for a team that didn't win their division of their conferece to go to the National Championship. It happened in 2001 when Texas played Colorado in the Big 12 Championship but Nebraska went to the National Championship game.

As for Auburn and Florida winning out. If they do win out I think there is plenty argument for Florida to be ranked ahead of Auburn even though they lost the head to head game.
- Florida would be the conference champion
- Florida would have a "better loss" becuase their loss (Auburn) would be ranked higher than Auburn's (Arkansas)
- Florida would win an extra game
- Florida played the harder schedule seeing as how they didn't get to play either Mississippi school and did have to play Tennessee, plus got a FSU non-conference game. Even Florida's other non-conference games (So. Miss and UCF) are better than Auburn's (Tulane and Buffalo)
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#7 Posted on 24.10.06 0056.37
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    This was actually talked about I believe in the last College Football thread last week. It is possible for a team that didn't win their division of their conferece to go to the National Championship. It happened in 2001 when Texas played Colorado in the Big 12 Championship but Nebraska went to the National Championship game.

    As for Auburn and Florida winning out. If they do win out I think there is plenty argument for Florida to be ranked ahead of Auburn even though they lost the head to head game.
    - Florida would be the conference champion
    - Florida would have a "better loss" becuase their loss (Auburn) would be ranked higher than Auburn's (Arkansas)
    - Florida would win an extra game
    - Florida played the harder schedule seeing as how they didn't get to play either Mississippi school and did have to play Tennessee, plus got a FSU non-conference game. Even Florida's other non-conference games (So. Miss and UCF) are better than Auburn's (Tulane and Buffalo)


None of it will matter when Georgia plays the game of its life to sneak up on the Gators and pull off the upset.
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#8 Posted on 24.10.06 0729.11
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by Quezzy
      This was actually talked about I believe in the last College Football thread last week. It is possible for a team that didn't win their division of their conferece to go to the National Championship. It happened in 2001 when Texas played Colorado in the Big 12 Championship but Nebraska went to the National Championship game.

      As for Auburn and Florida winning out. If they do win out I think there is plenty argument for Florida to be ranked ahead of Auburn even though they lost the head to head game.
      - Florida would be the conference champion
      - Florida would have a "better loss" becuase their loss (Auburn) would be ranked higher than Auburn's (Arkansas)
      - Florida would win an extra game
      - Florida played the harder schedule seeing as how they didn't get to play either Mississippi school and did have to play Tennessee, plus got a FSU non-conference game. Even Florida's other non-conference games (So. Miss and UCF) are better than Auburn's (Tulane and Buffalo)


    None of it will matter when Georgia plays the game of its life to sneak up on the Gators and pull off the upset.
Bite your tongue. :)
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#9 Posted on 26.10.06 1619.46
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    Originally posted by Battlezone
    Question re: the SEC-Let's say the following happens:

    1) Auburn wins out
    2. Arkansas loses to LSU, but beats Tennessee, and beats Florida in the SEC Championship game

    If Auburn is high enough to be considered for the NCG, there's no way they could realistically place an Auburn team that didn't even win it's own division in it's own conference, right? Especially since their one loss came to the team that actually *won* the conference.

Welcome to the wacky world of the BCS, Battlezone. If West Virginia gets upset by Louisville or Rutgers (and speaking of the Scarlet Knights... watch out; they've got no passing game, but an excellent running game and the best defense in football will get you places) and the Big Game turns one-sided, that's precisely what we'll end up with.

(Incidentally, at this point I'm expecting a tight, tense Big Game that will actually result in OSU & Michigan dancing again for the national title.)
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#10 Posted on 26.10.06 1722.50
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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Welcome to the wacky world of the BCS, Battlezone. If West Virginia gets upset by Louisville or Rutgers (and speaking of the Scarlet Knights... watch out; they've got no passing game, but an excellent running game and the best defense in football will get you places) and the Big Game turns one-sided, that's precisely what we'll end up with.

    (Incidentally, at this point I'm expecting a tight, tense Big Game that will actually result in OSU & Michigan dancing again for the national title.)


I completely agree with you about Rutgers. The Big East is looking to be a lot stronger than people believed, and I think an undefeated Big East champion should most definitely get a shot at a national title.

Speaking of which, if things play out right*, this year could provide the most fodder for the playoff proponents since, well, EVER. Consider, the possibility of an undefeated Ohio State against:

-an undefeated West Virginia
-one-loss teams Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, USC, Auburn, Florida, or maybe even Arkansas if they win out.

And since there's such a focus on head-to-head victories this year (at least when it comes to Tennessee fans whining about Cal being ranked ahead of them), that mixes up things even more. I mean, there's an eight-team playoff right there that I'd watch every minute of. Has there ever been a year with such a logjam at the top? Usually , there's one or two team with a legitimate gripe, but this year, it could just be chaos.

Is your projection of an OSU/UM national title game based on the fact that there's such a gap between OSU/UM/USC and everyone else?


*This, of course, recognizes that things NEVER turn out right.
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#11 Posted on 26.10.06 1830.40
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    Originally posted by Battlezone
    Is your projection of an OSU/UM national title game based on the fact that there's such a gap between OSU/UM/USC and everyone else?

I have a very simple rule when I do these projections: They are only based on what we actually know, and never on anything that could potentially happen in the future. Hence, as listed in the projections, the OSU/UM matchup is there merely because they are #1 & #2 right now. (If I'd made a post for this last week, you would have seen USC in the #2 slot since that's where they were at the time.)

It is my personal belief, however, that we're going to be looking at an OSU/UM title game in the end, and that's for the reason you said (that the gap between them and everyone else except USC right now is just that big) and because I think the Big Game will be a very even contest.
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#12 Posted on 26.10.06 2034.01
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I would say that if it's a close game, and USC is undefeated that USC would face the winner for the title. Depends on lots of factors but I'd be very suprised if USC was passed over in that case.
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#13 Posted on 26.10.06 2056.43
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    Originally posted by Battlezone
    I completely agree with you about Rutgers. The Big East is looking to be a lot stronger than people believed, and I think an undefeated Big East champion should most definitely get a shot at a national title.


I beg to differ. It's easy to pump up your wins when you have FIVE non-conf games.

WVU, Rutgers, and Louisville haven't had any quality non-conf opponents.

team -- # of I-A non-conf games -- non-conf opponent record -- opponent's opponent record
USC -- 2 -- 10-3, 0.769 -- 41-43, 0.488
Michigan -- 3 -- 13-9, 0.591 -- 76-65, 0.539,
Ohio State -- 4 -- 16-12, 0.571 -- 95-93, 0.505
Boise State -- 3 -- 10-11, 0.476 -- 67-70, 0.489
Auburn -- 3 -- 8-14, 0.364 -- 69-71, 0.493
Louisville -- 5 -- 12-21, 0.364 -- 101-103, 0.495
Rutgers -- 4 -- 9-17, 0.346 -- 86-70, 0.551
West Virginia -- 4 -- 9-17, 0.346 -- 89-99, 0.473
Florida -- 2 -- 4-8, 0.333 -- 36-39, 0.480

I could go on, but it just looks to me that the Big East schools have not faced any quality teams outside of their conference and that will hurt them in any national title hopes. The computers take the SOS into account more than the pollsters.
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#14 Posted on 26.10.06 2147.32
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    Originally posted by Battlezone
    Speaking of which, if things play out right*, this year could provide the most fodder for the playoff proponents since, well, EVER. Consider, the possibility of an undefeated Ohio State against:

    -an undefeated West Virginia
    -one-loss teams Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, USC, Auburn, Florida, or maybe even Arkansas if they win out.

    And since there's such a focus on head-to-head victories this year (at least when it comes to Tennessee fans whining about Cal being ranked ahead of them), that mixes up things even more. I mean, there's an eight-team playoff right there that I'd watch every minute of. Has there ever been a year with such a logjam at the top? Usually , there's one or two team with a legitimate gripe, but this year, it could just be chaos.





In the pre-Bowl Alliance/BCS days, you had many years that had this type of controversy. I'm not going back through the 60's etc. where the national title could be decided prior to the bowls and I wasn't alive yet. Notre Dame in '77 was #5 with 1 loss when they destroyed Earl Campbell and the #1 Texas Longhorns in the Cotton Bowl to jump up to win the national title. Miami was; I believe, #5 when they played #1 Nebraska in '83 in the Orange Bowl, which is why Nebraska would have won the national title if Osborne had played for the tie rather than the win, as Miami wouldn't have jumped them off a tie in their home building. 1993 was probably the last year of close to complete anarchy: 1 loss Florida State(who had lost to Notre Dame in November), beats unbeaten Nebraska as a double digit favorite on a missed field goal, while unbeaten West Virginia loses the Sugar Bowl and 1 loss Notre Dame defeats Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl. Throw in the Nebraska/Michigan '97 controversy, and Penn State having a national title deprived from them in '94 because they dropped from #1-#2 in the polls because Indiana had 2 cheap touchdowns in garbage time to make a score look closer late in the season and allowed Nebraska to jump them in both polls, remaining #1 when they demolished Miami in the Orange Bowl 22-0, with Warren Sapp sucking air in the 4th quarter. If you want to trace back to where the old formula started to devolve, it was probably when the Fiesta Bowl broke the bank and moved the bowl game to January 2nd after the '86 season to get Independents Miami and Penn State to face off in what was a de facto national title game. A few years later, independents Notre Dame and West Virginia met in the Fiesta as a #1-#2 match-up. Conversely in 1984, BYU won a national title against a 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl.
The demise of the independents, which can also be traced to the destruction of the CFA, can be seen as to the rise of the need for a Bowl Alliance/BCS. Go back to the late 80's and you would have Florida State in the Metro Conference with no major bowl tie-in, and Notre Dame, Penn State, Miami, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Syracuse, Boston College available as independents. Go through the 80's and you will find most, if not all, seasons with at least 1 team from that grouping with 1 or fewer losses, thus they could easily be slotted against the best team outside of the Rose Bowl match-up. In addition, the Big 10 and the Pac 10 were actually both 'down' during that time frame, thus causing the Rose Bowl not to impact the national championship race. Georgia or Alabama is the best team in a conference: Throw Notre Dame, Pitt or Penn State against them. The Pony Express at SMU is riding high? Someone go to the Cotton Bowl. Nebraska and Oklahoma are dominating? Send Florida State or Miami to the Orange Bowl. Having that balance meant multiple bowl games that mattered. But, then the SEC took Arkansas from the SWC and all hell broke loose and everyone other than Notre Dame went into conference play, which ended up leading to computers having input into football championships.
In the BCS era, you had the Nebraska/Colorado/Oregon controversy in '01 as to who would be cannon fodder for Miami in the national title game, the LSU/Oklahoma/USC '03 situation, and the '04 USC/Oklahoma/Auburn controversy.
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#15 Posted on 27.10.06 1106.28
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    I would say that if it's a close game, and USC is undefeated that USC would face the winner for the title. Depends on lots of factors but I'd be very suprised if USC was passed over in that case.

I don't think we'll get that case, however. USC has looked weak against the dregs of the Pac-10, and now that the elite teams are coming their way, I don't see them making it through the next month without a loss.

    Originally posted by I
    The other big injustice of the week: Clemson dominates a tough Georgia Tech team, and gets absolutely no bounce up the rankings from it whatsoever despite both Tennessee and Cal needing last-second or overtime efforts to survive. As much as the ACC as a whole is down this year, Clemson proved with this one that they're among the elite and deserved the recognition as such, especially considering that if things play out to the chalk, that missed extra-point in double overtime against Boston College could come back to haunt them.

Well, so much for that. Really goes to show you just how weak the ACC is, even compared to last season. Boise State just got a huge boost to its BCS hopes.

(Incidentally, when I corrected my error in putting Clemson ahead of Boston College for the ACC title, I created another error. Under the new BCS by-laws, any minor-conference champion ranked #13-16 in the BCS standings gets an automatic berth if its ranking in the BCS is higher than that of a major-conference champion. With Boston College sitting at #17, Boise State would get a berth at #15, knocking Louisville out. Should this situation re-manifest itself this week, I'll correct this with the next State.)

(edited by Texas Kelly on 27.10.06 1639)
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#16 Posted on 28.10.06 1704.33
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    USC has looked weak against the dregs of the Pac-10, and now that the elite teams are coming their way, I don't see them making it through the next month without a loss.


They're not going to make it out of the next 90 minutes without a loss. It's a 20 point lead while I type this, about to be more, and it's looked worse than that.
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#17 Posted on 28.10.06 1733.24
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    They're not going to make it out of the next 90 minutes without a loss. It's a 20 point lead while I type this, about to be more, and it's looked worse than that.


cubs put the jinx on OSU. 33-25 with twelve minutes left.

The "dregs of the Pac-10" are pretty much just Stanford and Arizona this year. There's USC and Cal on their own level, and then everyone else is pretty much even. The six middle Pac-10 teams are all pretty good this year.
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#18 Posted on 28.10.06 1734.29
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wow, Oregon State is really blowing this! There's no way they'll hold on to win!

(hope that fixes it)
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#19 Posted on 28.10.06 1832.28
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    None of it will matter when Georgia plays the game of its life to sneak up on the Gators and pull off the upset.

To this I say: HA and HA. Georgia can't sneak up on anybody this year without, you know, a QUARTERBACK.

As for Florida, for some reason I see them losing to Spurrier at home. I can't justify this in any way, shape, or form, but I just have this nagging feeling. Personally, I'm pulling for a super-exciting West Virginia team to play for the title, so I guess maybe I should become a Gamecock or Seminole fan.

- StingArmy
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#20 Posted on 29.10.06 0129.18
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    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      None of it will matter when Georgia plays the game of its life to sneak up on the Gators and pull off the upset.

    To this I say: HA and HA. Georgia can't sneak up on anybody this year without, you know, a QUARTERBACK.

    As for Florida, for some reason I see them losing to Spurrier at home. I can't justify this in any way, shape, or form, but I just have this nagging feeling. Personally, I'm pulling for a super-exciting West Virginia team to play for the title, so I guess maybe I should become a Gamecock or Seminole fan.

    - StingArmy


Did I say Georgia? I meant Vanderbilt!

Bring back Jay Cutler!

P.S. - I was in the Swamp last year for that game, and it was GREAT until, you know, the Gators actually won (incidently, the celebration penalty at the end was still bullshit). Go Commodores!

EDIT: I just wanted to add that, if a one-loss UF team (or Michigan, USC, etc.) gets into the national championship game over an undefeated West Virginia or Louisville team, I will be upset. It all depends on the voters, though, not "the computers." If the voters move the WVU/Louis winner up to No. 2 after OSU/Mich, everything will work out (assuming the winner also beats Rutgers, hardly a given). Of course, none of this will matter when South Florida beats both of them (in the same reality where the Cutler-less Commodores will beat the Gators)!

(edited by TheBucsFan on 29.10.06 0134)
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