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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - The Pro Wrestling Conspiracy
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#1 Posted on 27.3.04 1820.55
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How's it going, everyone?

The thread I'd like to bring up (and hopefully get some solid responses/opinions on) is one I have had in my mind off and on but always thought deeply about when it came up.

That, my fellow wieners, is the idea of the conspiracy against pro wrestling, specifically the WWE and Vince McMahon.

Now, conspiracy is a strong word to use, and I don't mean it how it sounds, but it was the best word I could think of to describe my theory on here goes...

So, we have professional wrestling, in my opinion, one of the most interesting forms of entertainment with themes that can be related to by a lot of people...but why after all the success it has achieved over the years, from carnival to territory to major tv, is it still looked at as a joke to the world of sports and major media.

And maybe more importantly, why is it that wrestling seems to always be targeted hardest when it comes to steroids and deaths when partying, drug abuse, etc. goes on a lot worse in the sports world?


We had the first big wrestling boom in the 1980's. I don't think I have ever talked to anyone who doesn't know who Hulk Hogan is and makes some reference to wrestling from the 80's. Everybody seems to have some memory of wrestling that time, whether they watched it regularly or not.

We had Hulk Hogan, who managed to make himself a part of American culture, was the first and thus far, only, wrestler on the cover of SI, Vince and WWE were making money hand over foot and setting records where they had shows. Some of WWE's stars were becoming just as well known as some major sports figures. WWE was having a fun time running wild on the media world.

But then we had people like Richard Belzer and numerous other people trying to expose wrestling as being a "fake" sport and pre-determined and overall not worthy of the attention it was receiving.

Why did these people feel so compelled to try and bring down a form of entertainment that was being enjoyed by a lot of people and wasn't infringing on the real sports world?

We had the 1994 steroid trial which knocked the WWE down for a good four years. I don't remember hearing about other major sports organizations being attacked about steroids and the lifestyles of its participants as much as they ran down the WWE.

So, the long-winded point of this is...although it is highly far-fetched and unorthodox, does anyone think that because the WWE was garnering so much attention and the stars of a "fake sport" were becoming more well-known and receiving more attention than "real" athletes, that some of the major people and owners of the sports world felt threatened and had to nip it in the bud?

I mean, WWE used to have The Main Event on NBC for many years, but I remember when Austin blew up, NBC aired a special "exposing" all the secrets of pro wrestling like blading, chairshots, and move execution. Sure, some people have always been smart to wrestling, but I am sure this certainly helped.

Thanks for reading, and sorry for being so long-winded, we got there eventually. But what does everyone think?

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#2 Posted on 27.3.04 1835.13
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Have you ever considered pulling your head out of the sand and taking a look at the world around you? Just because all YOU focus on is wrestling doesn't mean there is a worldwide focus on wrestling. The most recent glaring example of what you're conveniently ignoring in your attempts to craft a thread would be the BALCO scandal.
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#3 Posted on 27.3.04 1934.06
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"We had Hulk Hogan, who managed to make himself a part of American culture, was the first and thus far, only, wrestler on the cover of SI,"

Hey what about Danny Hodge.
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#4 Posted on 27.3.04 1948.08
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Pro Wrestler I mean. I believe Andre was the first pro to be featured in the magazine, but Hogan was the first pro on the cover.
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#5 Posted on 27.3.04 1948.21
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    Originally posted by XManiac24
    Now, conspiracy is a strong word to use, and I don't mean it how it sounds, but it was the best word I could think of to describe my theory on here goes...

I think it's all the old bastards in the CIA, the ones that killed John F. Kennedy. They don't want people sitting at home watching commercials all week. They think it would be much better if everyone just took some time to go outside and play like when they were kids. That's why they attack wrestling. It's for the greater good of the people.

But seriously. Who knows why certain people get down on wrasslin? I don't really enjoy, for example, Nora Ephron's movies. Now, I'm not about to be 'an outspoken detractor' of Nora Ephron's movies. I'm not about to sit across from Larry King and tell the people why they shouldn't see Nora Ephron's movies, but then, why would I want to give so much free publicity to something I don't particularly care for? If people want to crap on wrestling, let them. Is Richard Belzer going to stop any of us from watching it? NO. So what's the worry? You can keep watching RAW on Monday nights, and the Belz can go piss up a rope. Problem solved. (Wait, was there a problem?)
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#6 Posted on 27.3.04 2000.52
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Other sports get attacked all of the time. A good example is hockey right now, particularly the NHL, because of the Todd Bertuzzi/Steve Moore incident.

I don't think anyone in the media is out to destroy wrestling. If they were, why would so many of the WWE wrestlers have been on talk shows and news programs leading up to WrestleMania?
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#7 Posted on 27.3.04 2045.18
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It's funny that of all the networks to pick out as anti-wrestling in the late 90's/beginning 00's, NBC was the one picked. Now, the Tonight Show on NBC was a vehicle used by WCW in order to get mainstream attention, as Jay Leno was an active participant in PPV matches (I know, we've all tried blocking that out) for WCW in the summer of '98. Also, let us not forget the Hogan retirement/announcement for President on the Tonight Show in late '98, which of course led to his showing up in Atlanta to campaign for President on the infamous night in January '99 where the Fingerpoke of Doom began the WCW Funeral.
Now, if we want to ignore WCW being involved with NBC in this time period, let's look at Vince McMahon and that broadcast network. On MSNBC, which is the cable outlet for NBC, they would continuously run the Headliners and Legends of Vince McMahon where Vince was allowed to pontificate upon his version of pro wrestling and how he was the greatest showman ever to walk the face of the Earth. Saturday Night Live on NBC has had wrestlers host there program and had that program used as a vehicle to sell Mania. And, going to things best left forgotten, the XFL was broadcast in prime time on what network? NBC. Not only did they broadcast the XFL, they had stock in World Wrestling Federation Entertainment during this time period where they were supposedly burying wrestling.
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