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#1 Posted on 6.12.03 2257.29
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Saw it tonight with my brother. Really, really good work once again by Tom Cruise. I'm going to dwell into spoiler territory right away, so be warned.

I loved this movie, but it damn near would have been perfect had Cruise died on the battlefield. The ending felt like it dragged on forever and ever. I wonder how the Japanese must feel after watching Tom Cruise actually being the last samurai. I have a feeling that they wouldn't be so thrilled. Then again, I could be wrong.

Anyway, I really did like the movie. The love portion was very subtle, very subdued. The scene where Taka dresses Algren right before battle was amazing.

One last thing... Ninja v. Samurai = happiness
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#2 Posted on 6.12.03 2305.59
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When I saw the preview for this last year, I yelled, "Sweet! Shogun!" I was utterly confused by this 'Last Samurai' business. I saw the movie tonight, and was thrilled that I was right the first time. While the setting takes place a few hundred years later, a lot of the story was vaguely reminiscent of Shogun. This was definitely a good thing. Yes, the ending dragged a bit (didn't help that the sound kept going out during the big battle, completely ruining the flow) but overall the movie was good.

It didn't blow me away, but it was a well done film that's worth seeing if you like swords, samurai, or Tom Cruise.

-Jag

1) I really got tired of seeing the Indian village flashback, though.

2) The Cruise vs 5 guys swordfight in Tokyo was awesome though. I really liked the "Moment ago!" bit.
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#3 Posted on 7.12.03 0046.30
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As a life time fan of samurais and ninjas, I made it a point to watch this movie. I was expecting it to be a little cheesy, but the movie was really well done. Excellent acting, especially by Ken Watanabe (forgive me if I spelt it wrong).


SPOILER


I agree that Cruise should have died on the battlefield, but that was pretty much the only thing I didn't like about the movie.


END OF SPOILER



But, I loved the movie. It definetly makes my top five list for my favorite movies of the year, of course that MAY have something to do with my fascination with Asian culture.





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#4 Posted on 7.12.03 0406.41
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I'm sorry but Tom Cruise was totally out of place here. Especially the part when he walks out in a kimono for the first time and starts acting like Ralph Macchio from the Karate Kid. I seriously wanted to smack him when he did that. As an actor, I'm ashamed of Cruise and refuse to ever refer to him as an actor again.
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#5 Posted on 7.12.03 0427.48
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Wow, I'm sure he's losing sleep over THAT one.

Peopl'e attitudes to Tom Cruise really bother me. The man is a great actor. Check Rain Man, Jerry Maguire, Born On The Fourth Of July, Magnolia, The Color Of Money. But just because he's a good-looking guy who's known as a heartthrob, well damn, he's the Antichrist with the acting ability of Ed Wood's angora sweater. I hope Cruise wins the Oscar next year, I really do, just so I can watch so amny movie snobs' heads explode with the indignity of it all. God knows he deserved it for Magnolia, and the Academy seem to be in the business of making up for past injustices at the moment.

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#6 Posted on 7.12.03 1030.59
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Saw The Last Samurai last night. If you liked Dances With Wolves, you'll like this movie. Practically the same thing, but with Samurai rather than Native Americans, right down to the voice overs out of the main character's journal about what's going on. Not that it was really BAD or anything, and I did enjoy it more than I thought I would, but whatever. It's ok. I can never see Tom Cruise as anything other than Tom Cruise. No matter what movie he's in, he's never the character he's supposed to be playing, he's Tom Cruise acting in a movie, know what I mean? I can't see past him being Tom Cruise and get into his character in any movie.

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#7 Posted on 7.12.03 1106.34
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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Wow, I'm sure he's losing sleep over THAT one.

    Peopl'e attitudes to Tom Cruise really bother me. The man is a great actor. Check Rain Man, Jerry Maguire, Born On The Fourth Of July, Magnolia, The Color Of Money. But just because he's a good-looking guy who's known as a heartthrob, well damn, he's the Antichrist with the acting ability of Ed Wood's angora sweater. I hope Cruise wins the Oscar next year, I really do, just so I can watch so amny movie snobs' heads explode with the indignity of it all. God knows he deserved it for Magnolia, and the Academy seem to be in the business of making up for past injustices at the moment.




AMEN. Tom Cruise is one of the most underrated actors of all time. He fucking ROCKED in Magnolia. Frank T.J. Mackey not getting the Oscar is one of the biggest travesties in history.

Honestly, why do people hate him so much? Jealousy?
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#8 Posted on 7.12.03 1121.00
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    Originally posted by Vanilla Sky
    Honestly, why do people hate him so much? Jealousy?


It's obviously a dark, shameful conspiracy by the evil galactic warlord Xenu.

Seriously, though, I've also had some problems being able to get past seeing his roles as "Tom Cruise as" instead of "Tom Cruise is", if you get my meaning. He seems to be steadily improving, though... both Magnolia and Vanilla Sky were tremendous.
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#9 Posted on 7.12.03 1415.44
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I was planning to see this movie, but I didn't feel like braving "blizzard like conditions" to do so. I'm really interested in Meiji Japan, and most of my studies in college had to do with the east meets west phenomenon of the era, so this movie kinda looks like one of my college papers on screen.

Now to weigh in on the Tom Cruise debate: I understand when people say they have a hard time getting into a Tom Cruise role, since it does look more like Tom Cruise playing dress up than acting. He's not a bad actor, though-- I thought he was great in Color of Money, Born on the Fourth of July, and Magnolia, and pretty good in Mission: Impossible and Interview with the Vampire. On the other hand, I couldn't stand him in A Few Good Men, and thought he was ok in Rain Man.

And as far as jealousy goes, well, he does have better hair than I do, and that always gets me.

Man, I didn't realize I've seen so many Tom Cruise movies until just now!

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#10 Posted on 7.12.03 1420.45
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I don't hate Tom Cruise, and I'm not jealous of him. I am just annoyed by the fact that he is supposed to be in this serious period piece drama, yet in it he's still acting like Brian Flanagan from Cocktail, Maverick from Top Gun and Joel Goodson from Risky Business, it doesn't work.

Mark my words, Top Shogun won't be winning any major oscars next year either, that's my prediction.
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#11 Posted on 7.12.03 1435.19
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    As an actor, I'm ashamed of Cruise and refuse to ever refer to him as an actor again.


Oh, man...that's some pretty high praise for yourself, isn't it? It seriously takes away from any legitimate arguement you may have there...

...although when Cruise goes to sleep tonight on his big bed full of money and Penelope Cruz, I'm sure he'll realize the fraud of an "actor" he has become.
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#12 Posted on 7.12.03 1459.06
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that Tom Cruise WILL be nominated for AT LEAST a Golden Globe for Best Dramatic Actor for the Last Samurai, and probably the Best Actor Oscar, as well. He RULED. He didn't ham. He didn't do anything that detracted from the character. He was just good. This is up there with Jerry Maguire, Rain Man & Magnolia for me. The fact that actors like Cruise and Jim Carrey (who're willing to take risks and be funny and dramatic) don't have Oscars frightens me.
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#13 Posted on 8.12.03 0405.22
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    People's attitudes to Tom Cruise really bother me. The man is a great actor. Check Rain Man, Jerry Maguire, Born On The Fourth Of July, Magnolia, The Color Of Money. But just because he's a good-looking guy who's known as a heartthrob, well damn, he's the Antichrist with the acting ability of Ed Wood's angora sweater. I hope Cruise wins the Oscar next year, I really do, just so I can watch so amny movie snobs' heads explode with the indignity of it all. God knows he deserved it for Magnolia, and the Academy seem to be in the business of making up for past injustices at the moment.


Tom Cruise is not what I'd call a "great" actor; he's a character actor. His trademark role is the cocky hotshot who matures by the end of the movie, and this is his role is just about EVERY film he's ever been in, with very few exceptions. When he's on, he's very good, but my definition of a 'great' actor is a performer who is able to disappear into many different roles (i.e. Meryl Streep, Sean Penn, Ed Harris, Johnny Depp, etc.) or an actor who has a definitive persona but is able to shape it in many interesting ways (i.e. Jack Nicholson).


    I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that Tom Cruise WILL be nominated for AT LEAST a Golden Globe for Best Dramatic Actor for the Last Samurai, and probably the Best Actor Oscar, as well. He RULED. He didn't ham. He didn't do anything that detracted from the character. He was just good. This is up there with Jerry Maguire, Rain Man & Magnolia for me. The fact that actors like Cruise and Jim Carrey (who're willing to take risks and be funny and dramatic) don't have Oscars frightens me.


Let's not go nuts here...there are plenty of great actors without Oscars that I feel more miffed about than Cruise and Carrey. Cruise rightfully lost to Daniel Day-Lewis in 1989 and to Geoffrey Rush in 1996 for Best Actor, and while I'd agree that his Magnolia role was better than Michael Caine's Oscar-winning Best Supporting performance in Cider House Rules, I dunno if Cruise was even the best supporting performance in his own movie. What about John C. Reilly, Philip Baker Hall or William Macy?

As for Carrey, he was good in Truman Show and Man On The Moon, but if you look at the lists of Best Actor nominees for 1998 and 1999, there's not one person I'd bump in his favour. Them's the breaks.




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