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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Stephanie and Heyman
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#1 Posted on 20.5.02 1330.24
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Stephanie McMahon and Paul Heyman are the head writers, correct?

Back during the invasion, Stephanie pinned Rock after letting her wcw/ecw guys do all the dirty work. The internet, including this message board had a fit about Stephanie supposedly writing herself into a position to pin a wrestler.

Fast forward to last night. Paul Heyman pins a wrestler after letting Brock do his dirty work. No one notices or fusses.

Now I realize that Jeff Hardy is not the Rock, but other than that we have the exact same situation. So why was Stephanie held responsible and Heyman let pass? Things like this annoy me, it just seems to be a big double standard.
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#2 Posted on 20.5.02 1345.16
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    Originally posted by mskj
    Things like this annoy me, it just seems to be a big double standard.
Welcome to the reality of internet message boards, my friend. I used to write a weekly column for a comic book-related website where I'd point out double standards (among other things) amongst the comic book fan community on a regular basis. Interestingly enough, the people that were responsible for the double standards were the ones that got the angriest about what I had to say. You can't get away from it. It's pretty much a fact of internet life.

In this case, I would say it's because it involves Paul Heymann, who is considered the "genius" behind ECW. As you know, many (NOT ALL, I said MANY) ECW fans think Paul can do no wrong. There are many ECW fans on the internet and this board, so I think that should answer your question.
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#3 Posted on 20.5.02 1356.39
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Paul`s character also has a much smaller on-screen role currently than Steph did at the time. He`s the "agent" of one mid-carder and is in no more than 2 segments per show. Steph was the co-leader of almost every heel in the Fed and appeared throughout the whole show. So people were hella-sick of her at the time.
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#4 Posted on 20.5.02 1357.09
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Rock = over, a victory over him is meaningful
Hardyz = jobbers

much like last night in Nashville, nobody gives a damn what happens to the Hardyz anymore

P.S. grouping "comic book", "internet" and "life" in the same thought creates a paradox that could collapse our very universe- sounds like a job for DR. STRANGE

or something
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#5 Posted on 20.5.02 1432.45
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    Originally posted by Travis
    P.S. grouping "comic book", "internet" and "life" in the same thought creates a paradox that could collapse our very universe- sounds like a job for DR. STRANGE

    or something

It's no more pardoxal than grouping "Travis," "posting," "anything," "relevant," "intellegent" and "funny" would be.
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#6 Posted on 20.5.02 1441.39
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    Originally posted by Papercuts!

      Originally posted by mskj
      Things like this annoy me, it just seems to be a big double standard.
    Welcome to the reality of internet message boards, my friend. I used to write a weekly column for a comic book-related website where I'd point out double standards (among other things) amongst the comic book fan community on a regular basis. Interestingly enough, the people that were responsible for the double standards were the ones that got the angriest about what I had to say.


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"Yeah?"
"This is the Dorky Kettle...you're black."
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#7 Posted on 20.5.02 1445.08
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I like comics....aw hell, I love comics. All I wanna do is draw comics and watch wrestling. And it seems one has been REALLY awesome while the other has, well sucked ass.


Paul E. gets a win over Jeff Hardy...so what, it adds fuel to the fire. Same with Steph winning over Rock. Who cares? If it made for a good storyline, then whatever. She took a pedigree, a rock bottom the walls of jericho and a stunner. One cheap as hell win over Rocky is no big deal after that. So let Paul have one win...he worked hard for Vince Russo to steal all his ideas. Let him have some fun. It gave them some great heat.


Oh, and I miss the REAL Walls of Jericho. This Boston Crab bullshit ain't cutting it. Who didn't love it when Jericho did it to Kenny on Tough Enough?

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#8 Posted on 20.5.02 1452.20
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    Originally posted by Travis
    "Nerdy Pot?"
    "Yeah?"
    "This is the Dorky Kettle...you're black."

As soon as I get *angry* (or even a little mad) about anything you have to say, I'll gladly wear the soot.
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#9 Posted on 20.5.02 1550.28
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Well, my little group was bitching when Heyman got the pin.

After the night was over, it was just one of many things to complain about, and since the others were more glaring and took place higher on the card, this one may slip through the cracks.

I mean, after expending all this energy whining about UT and HHH, who has time for poor, "little" Paul E.

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#10 Posted on 20.5.02 1727.26
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I won't bitch yet about Heyman simply because we don't know if this is going to build to anything. Steph getting a pin over the Rock had no real chance to build to anything useful, and was in the end looked like just another Steph ego-caused brainfart. Heyman's pin could, repeat COULD, be the start of something which leads to a meaningful conclusion. If in 2 months it's led to nothing, I promise to bitch about Paul too.
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#11 Posted on 20.5.02 1730.44
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Steph pinning the Rock was a nonwrestler pinning a former WWF Champion as part of a main event storyline. Paul Heyman pinning Jeff Hardy was a nonwrestler pinning a jobber (maybe a jobber to the stars, depending on how you perceive Jeff) in a relatively insignificant midcard angle.
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#12 Posted on 23.5.02 1326.47
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Papercuts, you made your mistake when you tried to use logical thinking and common sence on a board that has to deal with Professional Wrestling, which in and of itself has more logic holes than Nintendo and Aussie Rules Football combined.

Face it, In the past 15 years, we've had such great things like

Vader's White Castle of Fear
The Shockmaster
The Undertaker Resurrecting from the dead
The Ultimate Warrior under the control of a voodoo lord
A Witch Doctor
An Urn that held infinite power and contained green smoke.
Bob Backlund winning the world title in '94
Soviets and Iranians practicing Detente
A Man defect to an enemy's military and retain his U.S. Rank(You'd think they'd promote him from Seargent...)
The Giant's fall off the top of a building only to fight later on that night
Kevin Sullivan and Prince Iaukea's Dad wanting to destroy Hulk Hogan (what was their motive again?)
A man go from being a happy barber to a fucking idiot in black and white paint. (I hate you Mr. ZODIAC)
Mist, of any color.
Double Axe Handle Smash
The Stone Cold Stunner
Chyna; The Women's Rights Role Model
Chyna; The Sex Symbol
Chyna; The Intercontinental Champion
Chyna; In Playboy
Joanie Laurer; Let's laugh because she can't use Chyna anymore.
Mick Foley remembering how to use the English Language after KOTR '98.
Mae Young gives birth to a hand.
An Actor wins a wrestling title that Abe Lincoln held. (That's what burns the most, Arquette!)
Abe Lincoln was the first NWA/WCW (and ultimately) Half Unified Champion.
Vince McMahon's butt
Vince McMahon's ass (ATTITUDE BABY!)
Orphans getting in the way of heels conquering the world.
The Horsemen putting Sting in a cage, for no appearant reason, and Robocop saves him.
Ken Shamrock, a certified fighting machine, only getting as far as the IC Belt.
The Undertaker worshipping Vince McSatan
The Undertaker coming back as the villian from Raising Arizona

The list is limitless, and if we get off of such bizarre and stupid entertainment, we're not going to want to hear anything with sense, now are we?
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#13 Posted on 23.5.02 1346.18
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I think Abe Lincoln died a little more than 15 years ago.
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#14 Posted on 23.5.02 1410.52
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I don't know about any of this, Lexus, but I'm stealing your avatar. Just letting you know. By the way, Paul Heyman is a fat piece of lard that shouldn't be going over the Brooklyn Brawler, much less the next step up on the WWF push chain in the Hardlyz. Thank you. :D
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#15 Posted on 24.5.02 1813.13
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Rumor has it That Steph was not at the Raw or Smackdown taping this week. What part of the body you think she got made over? bigger boobs???????
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