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#1 Posted on 14.6.02 1633.13
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Well, it looks like JR has sealed the deal on Austin being gone. That read like one long rationalization. It looks like the days of Stone Cold Steve Austin are over. My only question is will they actually release him from his contract and, if so, will he work for the Jarretts? He couldn't be Stone Cold (I think...WWE's gotta own that), but he could be Steve Austin, and that's surely enough to cement them as a serious competitor to WWE. I'm betting they keep him under contract, pay him his downside guarantee, and leave him at home. They can afford it.

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#2 Posted on 14.6.02 1639.15
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The ads plastered all over WWE.com really make this look like a ratings ploy, but the Ross Report makes me hesitate. If they are working the fans here, I think there's going to be a strong negative reaction.

And it sounds like he's gone permanently, too, which really sucks. JR didn't make it sound like they're going to work it out with him or anything. Austin going out in that fashion truly, truly sucks.
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#3 Posted on 14.6.02 1644.46
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Cryptic message of the week:

I like how Ross says that if some guys want to whine and promote themselves instead of being cool and helping the company, the WWE should kick their asses out on the street.
I couldn't agree more.
He also makes a comment that some people who have been hell to work with in the past are currently on the roster. I got the impression that Ross may be telling some guys to shape up immediately or prepare to lose their spots to younger guys.
Papercuts will probably put a bullet in my head for this speculation, but I get the feeling Ross is alluding to the Clique.
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#4 Posted on 14.6.02 1648.06
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Hmmm...

The Press Release says he's taken off the active roster.

Ross says he's gone for good, and then throws in a "when *I* quit, I'll do it in person and face-to-face" comment at the end. Now I realize -- if this is real -- that this is Ross towing the company line.

But something *STILL* is fishy about all of this. That last part reeks of an angle. Big time.

I won't be shocked if Austin turns up on Monday with backup. A throw back to the rule breaking, hell-raising, ambulance stealing Steve Austin everyone loved in a kind of a newfound "nWo" angle -- "You fired me but I'm not leaving!"

At the same time, after reading the Ross Report and really letting the tone of the whole piece sink in, if Austin's gone, the company will never be the same and I doubt I'll ever start watching again. I think they made a HUGE mistake -- if this is indeed a shoot.
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#5 Posted on 14.6.02 1652.29
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    Originally posted by Parts Unknown
    Cryptic message of the week:

    I like how Ross says that if some guys want to whine and promote themselves instead of being cool and helping the company, the WWE should kick their asses out on the street.
    I couldn't agree more.
    He also makes a comment that some people who have been hell to work with in the past are currently on the roster. I got the impression that Ross may be telling some guys to shape up immediately or prepare to lose their spots to younger guys.
    Papercuts will probably put a bullet in my head for this speculation, but I get the feeling Ross is alluding to the Clique.



Yeah, who was that intended for?? I took it to mean HHH, Nash, Xpac and the gang. But when he mentioned "box-office," I had a sneaking suspicion that it's the Rock.

And if Rocky's gone for good.... they may as well call in the Rev. Slick to turn out the lights because the party's over.
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#6 Posted on 14.6.02 1801.59
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    Originally posted by asteroidboy

      Originally posted by Parts Unknown
      Cryptic message of the week:

      I like how Ross says that if some guys want to whine and promote themselves instead of being cool and helping the company, the WWE should kick their asses out on the street.
      I couldn't agree more.
      He also makes a comment that some people who have been hell to work with in the past are currently on the roster. I got the impression that Ross may be telling some guys to shape up immediately or prepare to lose their spots to younger guys.
      Papercuts will probably put a bullet in my head for this speculation, but I get the feeling Ross is alluding to the Clique.



    Yeah, who was that intended for?? I took it to mean HHH, Nash, Xpac and the gang. But when he mentioned "box-office," I had a sneaking suspicion that it's the Rock.

    And if Rocky's gone for good.... they may as well call in the Rev. Slick to turn out the lights because the party's over.



I think we all know who JR is talking about. Come on people, stop kidding yourselves. It's so obvious, JR is referring to...

LANCE STORM, duh?!

OK, seriously, it's Hogan, Nash, X-Pac, HBK, but NOT HHH. You guys know that JR hates the Clique and Hogan. Guys like that just aren't the kind of "rough and tumble, square jawed 'hosses'" that JR likes. They're babies. I think this Austin situation is bad in that it takes a great performer like Stone Cold away, but it's good in so many other ways. I think this is a wake-up call for the WWF in that they won't put up with primadonna shit anymore. Plus, Austin needed to step aside and let the RVD's and Booker T's of the world take his spot. This FORCES the WWF to stop relying on old standbys and to truly revamp themselves.

Oh, and the word I heard from 411wrestling was that Austin breached his contract which allows them to not have to pay him but still retain all rights to him, so don't expect him to show up on TNA anytime soon.
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#7 Posted on 14.6.02 1806.39
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If this is a work, it'll be one of the greatest ones ever. JR seems genuinely hurt b/c of what Austin did and it also seems like he's blaming himself for it too. He IS the Head Talent Scout after all.
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#8 Posted on 14.6.02 2007.23
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"As the head of our Talent Relations department, if I am unable to accomplish this goal, maybe it is time for old J.R. to head back to Oklahoma and go fishing. However, I will not walk away from this task at hand without a fight and when I leave I will give my notice in person. Thanks for listening and I encourage you to stay tuned. Unpredictable and interesting times are upon us. I am very anxious to see how our entire WWE team responds over the next few weeks. "

This kind of stuff so bothers me. It feels like we are just getting one side of the story. All of WWE is saying Austin walked out/no showed without dealing with his problems. Everyone who bombs on Austin calls him selfish, unprofessional, etc. on what is probably based off what these fuckers are saying. Who knows what kind of conversation went on between them. We don't know if it was a slow build to lead to this meltdown or just some irrational immediate meltdown like WWE portrays it.

I wish we can hear Austin's side of the story. =/ AUSTIN SAY SOMETHING DEFEND YOURSELF FFS!!!!!1111


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#9 Posted on 14.6.02 2103.39
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Austin is not going to defend himself. Austin does not care about the fans. If he did, he would have gone out there and performed. I don’t care who you are, be a person of your word. The biggest defence of Austin I hear is, "he's an independent contractor, not an employee". But if you sign your name on a contract and promise to do what that contract says, you should do it. Doesn't your name, your word, mean anything? There's nothing subjective in a contract, because it has to be legally binding. So the WWE never broke any contractual obligations by having "piss-poor storylines". I feel Austin does not care about the business, because he’s never done what’s right for it. He’s never put anyone over, or come close to putting anyone over. I am going to refer again to when he supposedly jobbed clean, as a heel, to Kurt Angle. That is what the Austin marks point to as an example of Austin’s willingness to "do business". But even then he had his hand on the rope, even then he had a controversy attached to his “clean” job, and even then he looked as if he was “screwed”. On top of that, he got the belt back in TWO weeks. Now you tell me, what harm would have been done him if he’d jobbed like a man at the PPV and then got it back two weeks later. None. But he did not want to do it. In June, again, as a heel, he was booked as a face in the match with Benoit and Jericho. It was a triple threat with the three of them, and it was made to look as if Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho (both faces) were going to beat him down…in tandem, as if alone they stood no chance. Now tell me, is that how you book a heel? They even worked the match as if Austin were a face…With him warding off one assaulter, knocking him out of the ring, and then warding off the next, and then back to the first with no time to rest between onslaughts. Is that how to book a heel champion who escapes by the skin of his toes? Was Flair booked like that as a heel in the NWA? And ON TOP OF THAT, Booker T debuts by putting him through a table! The "heel" champ gets run down by an invading champ from another promotion! And this is a guy who has the business’ interests in mind? How on earth was he ever supposed to be over as a heel being booked like that? He never wanted to be a heel. He never tried to make it work. He never gave up anything to his opponents. He was only out to be turned face again so he could make more money. That’s all he’s about. Him leaving WILL hurt business, but the WWE has survived a lot…and will survive in the long haul. Can anyone honestly say things look rougher now than they did in 1995?
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#10 Posted on 14.6.02 2224.16
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    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Austin is not going to defend himself. Austin does not care about the fans. If he did, he would have gone out there and performed. I don’t care who you are, be a person of your word. The biggest defence of Austin I hear is, "he's an independent contractor, not an employee". But if you sign your name on a contract and promise to do what that contract says, you should do it. Doesn't your name, your word, mean anything? There's nothing subjective in a contract, because it has to be legally binding. So the WWE never broke any contractual obligations by having "piss-poor storylines". I feel Austin does not care about the business, because he’s never done what’s right for it. He’s never put anyone over, or come close to putting anyone over. I am going to refer again to when he supposedly jobbed clean, as a heel, to Kurt Angle. That is what the Austin marks point to as an example of Austin’s willingness to "do business". But even then he had his hand on the rope, even then he had a controversy attached to his “clean” job, and even then he looked as if he was “screwed”. On top of that, he got the belt back in TWO weeks. Now you tell me, what harm would have been done him if he’d jobbed like a man at the PPV and then got it back two weeks later. None. But he did not want to do it. In June, again, as a heel, he was booked as a face in the match with Benoit and Jericho. It was a triple threat with the three of them, and it was made to look as if Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho (both faces) were going to beat him down…in tandem, as if alone they stood no chance. Now tell me, is that how you book a heel? They even worked the match as if Austin were a face…With him warding off one assaulter, knocking him out of the ring, and then warding off the next, and then back to the first with no time to rest between onslaughts. Is that how to book a heel champion who escapes by the skin of his toes? Was Flair booked like that as a heel in the NWA? And ON TOP OF THAT, Booker T debuts by putting him through a table! The "heel" champ gets run down by an invading champ from another promotion! And this is a guy who has the business’ interests in mind? How on earth was he ever supposed to be over as a heel being booked like that? He never wanted to be a heel. He never tried to make it work. He never gave up anything to his opponents. He was only out to be turned face again so he could make more money. That’s all he’s about. Him leaving WILL hurt business, but the WWE has survived a lot…and will survive in the long haul. Can anyone honestly say things look rougher now than they did in 1995?


Yes.
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#11 Posted on 14.6.02 2248.11
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If this is all a work, I would be surprised. But VKM did say that Monday was going to be the beginning of something big. If it is a work though, it would be a mistake. Doing these shoot/kayfabe angles don't work. The only time it worked was when it unfolded on PPV(Hart screwjob) for the world to see. So with that in mind, I am going to assume it is real.

Now Austin has been pissed about the direction of the WWE for a while now. He is an old school wrestling guy and knows what is crap and what is not. He is not some company shill that is going to sit quietly about it. He doesn't have too either. Who did Austin pin to take the next step as being offically the #1 guy in the WWE? HBK. Who did Austin align with when everyone in the world thought he should be fueding with after X7? HHH

HHH made Austin look like his lackey throughout that whole time, remember? Now fast forward to 2002, HHH is in line to get the belt, HBK, Nash, X-Pac, Hogan are all back. The band is back together. Austin was going to get squeezed out. I am sure he was booked to lose against Brock, at the same time that the Klique was just about to have their collective star rise. I can see why he would be pissed. He put the company on his back and really got took the WWE to a new level. And now he gets asked to make room for new talent while the same guys that ran the WWE into the ground get rewarded? That is BS.

Provided that all happened, I can't blame him at all. He doesn't need the money, he has given his body and the past few years of his life the the WWE and they reward the guys who caused so much chaos that the company was in serious trouble.

So what I am saying is, now that I take a look at everything we know happened, I have to feel sorry for Austin. I have to believe that there will be more shake ups as well. JR sounded like he could be out the door too if things don't change. I can't see UT being too happy with things either. What I would give for UT to shoot on HHH at the PPV. OK, I am dreaming now. But VKM better fix this ship. Anytime a star like Austin walks out, he is only doing what others are thinking. Just when you think WWE couldn't get any worse...
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#12 Posted on 15.6.02 0000.59
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(edited by Triple Preperation H on 15.6.02 0103)
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#13 Posted on 15.6.02 0009.23
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You realize that there's really no way for Austin to actually speak out, right? For one, it goes against the wrestler's mantra of "What's said in the locker room, stays in the locker room." And for two, that's why most contracts have Non-Disclosure Agreements. Anything he says about the company's practices without company permission can be grounds for a lawsuit.

So for now, it appears that Austin will be stuck on one side of the debate.
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#14 Posted on 15.6.02 0156.16
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CRZ mentioned in his recap that it never should have come down to this. He's right. Problems like this don't just show up out of the blue. This is something that's been slowly reaching a boil, and it seems like everyone in the company just turned a blind eye.

This whole situation isn't good.
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#15 Posted on 15.6.02 0209.52
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    Originally posted by Papercuts!
    At the same time, after reading the Ross Report and really letting the tone of the whole piece sink in, if Austin's gone, the company will never be the same and I doubt I'll ever start watching again. I think they made a HUGE mistake -- if this is indeed a shoot.



    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    And if Rocky's gone for good.... they may as well call in the Rev. Slick to turn out the lights because the party's over.


When reading the various threads that are concerning this topic, I see a lot of statements that border very closely to the sentiments that are expressed here. It seems that everyone is counting the WWE down and out...

Well, I just want to go on record right now and say that I am behind the WWF 100%. The WWE has been through a LOT of rough times in the last decade or so. Remember when Vince was indicted by the Supreme Court? Everyone counted him out. They said that the WWE would be forced to fold. You know what? They didn't. They stuck it out. Remember when Bret Hart left the company (which to this day, I will maintain was a work from the word go, but that is another story for another time.)? Remember when the WWF lost Diesel, Razor, Alundra, The Kid, Hogan, and pretty much every other start that Turner opened his pocketbooks to? What did people say? They said that the WWF would never recover. They said that WCW would be the new powerhouse in professional wrestling.

You know what? It's been only a few years, and I don't hear much about the WCW anymore. Do you? No, you don't. Why not? Because the WWE did was it has always done. It stuck in there through the rough times, and refused to give up. Sure, there were quite a few really awful things that the company did during that time, and a lot the people turned on them. But, I wasn't one of them. I can proudly say that during the conception of the nWo angle, I watched approximately 3-5 episodes of Nitro instead of Raw. (And I only did that because I marked out, and got totally caught up in the storyline.)

Basically, with all this rambling, I am trying to say that historically, the WWE has been able to rebound from whatever hardball may get thrown at it. During the rough times, I've never deserted the company, nor do I plan to now. Maybe I'm just too loyal to see the truth, or maybe I'm just naive. But, no matter what the reason is, I'm sticking by the WWE. And I have a feeling that when the rebound occurs, we will see many of the same fans coming back to watch again. But, I'll have the satisfaction of knowing that I never went anywhere to begin with. C'mon guys/girls, give 'em a chance...

(edited by angrycheesehead on 15.6.02 0215)
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#16 Posted on 15.6.02 0328.06
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I'm going to play wait and see for the time being. Austin leaving could be terrible...or good.

The last time people were worried about the WWF in the ratings war was in late 1999. Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara jumped ship with Jeff Jarrett, Steve Austin and Undertaker were out with injuries, and Mick Foley was on the verge of retirement. We were left with a still rising Rocky and Triple H who was just hitting his stride. What we got was:

Mick Foley stepping up his game with his impending retirement, and in turn Triple H upping his to a whole new level. Triple H used that momentum to carry over into his feud with Rocky which spanned half the year and was without a doubt in my mind the finest period in WWF history.

I'll give them a few months without Austin assuming this is all real, and decide from there whether or not his leaving was a good thing for all involved.
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#17 Posted on 15.6.02 0335.16
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I'm with cfgb on this one. And KellyIsFnHardcore, there is no freakin' WAY that they are in a tougher spot than 1995/1996 right now. In 1995/1996 they lost ALL their proven headliners save Bret, Shawn and Taker, and Bret and Shawn weren't actually proven as draws at all (in fact, I'm pretty sure that Bret NOT to be a successful draw). They also had WCW kicking their ass and making them look a lot worse. AND Vince refused to let go of the gimmick-tastic old-time WWF formula. Now contrast that to today. If the WWF can survive two years of perfectly rotten TV and PPVs, then I'm pretty sure they stand a good chance of weathering this storm.
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#18 Posted on 15.6.02 0424.00
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One thing is I don't by this Austin became sulky steve overnight. I think Austin gave and gave for this company from...

-He could have worked only TV when he came back from his surgury but he said F-That If I'm coming back I'm going to be a full time employee... taking 10 germans because he felt that Edmonton crowd was reacting amazing to it so Austin said lets do all ten (benoit said so himself in an interview)

- Heel Austin, which I can't believe some are saying he didnt give it his all. God the guy did everything to make people hate him, from a psyudo homosexual angle with Vince (even though I never saw it that way some did), to being pussy whipped by Debra, to crying on bridge because Kurt Angle was scaring him... He went ALL OUT to be the best heel he can and making people who didn't want to boo him giving no choice to boo him.

- Lately he put more upper midcard guys over then anyone else, from Jericho to Angle to RVD. And had great matches with them... He lost to a heel H cleanly a year and a half ago. And maybe there lays the reason for all of this

Austin seems like he's absolutly frusterated. And sees there is nothing he can do about it. Maybe he felt he needed to make a statement and talking just won't help any. Now which wrestler do we feel can't be touched, can't be questioned? Could it be Satan, I mean Triple H. How do you critisize a future family member is doing. Isn't that like Trish or Lita complaining that Steph gets all the good women storylines (which she does actually). It's one thing being someones favourite or "boy" it's another thing becoming someones in-law. Wouldn't be the first time a promoter ruins his company by booking family over who's deserving... If you think Vince is a smart enough and a hard ass not to allow it to happen, he won't let family cloud his judgement, just remember the Main Event of WrestleMania this year. It was HHH vs. Stephanie as Jericho as an afterthought. It wasnt' a question of IF H will win but WHEN he does will he pedigree Steph. Somehow going into the grand-daddy of them all Vince got fooled enough to think *this* was a good idea. Well it bombed.

Well one more thing about JR, could you please stop with "the young talent needs to step up bullshit" that what it is, it's BS... Ross sayz "It is still going to be tough but now it looks like several new faces will be provided an opportunity to step up and play on the very top level. I do not know who these talents specifically are as I compose this report but I do know they are on this roster and will give us all they have once their number is called. I hope they are young and fresh hands. I hope they realize the opportunity that awaits them. I hope that they do not utilize the negative traits of some talents who came before them, a few still on our current roster, as their road maps to success.

Since the split our World Title PPV feuds went from HHH - Hogan - Undertaker - HHH ... Where are you allowing people to step up?, by having HHH take up 40 minutes on Smackdown, a third of the show. Is that How?.

Or is it by...
RVD- pins Undertaker, reverse decision crowd goes nuts. may be most over face in the company week in week out. Back in IC feud

Jericho - looks great against Hogan, doing amazing after the split. Jericho didn't even look this good when he was champ, does a great promo before hell in the sell saying the REAL Chris Jericho is going to expose himself. Loses again to Triple H same old story. Feuding with Val.

Edge - He's the one that comes to mind really did step up after the split. But he was in there with the best man in wrestling, the anti-H Kurt Angle that could make anyone seem good. Do you think the same will happen if Edge was in there with Taker or especially HHH. I think we all know the answer

I truly think JR knows what's going on, the problem isn't the young talent needing to step it up. The problem is upstairs, the problems is with the McMahons. They became desperate, they forgot they are not a normal television show that you book week to week to see what pops a rating but more like a franchise that you build. But McMahon got desperate and went for the quick fix, and it didn't fix anything and just made matters worse. He's booking family including Triple H and is turning his employees off and starting to cause paranoia (I bet Austin is feeling it) the rest are. Like I said before is H main eventing because he deserves or is it much like his girlfriend (who's been in main storylines over an over again unlike any other female)just because he's in tight. The problem is that question could be asked in the first place.







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#19 Posted on 15.6.02 0441.33
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Unlike many people, I don't really have a problem with HHH getting back in the title hunt and (probably) winning back the title at KOTR. The SmackDown opener was a tedious mess, granted, and we could have done without it. But Trips is a damn sight more entertaining than Taker AND Hogan, and at this point in time he is the only other viable top-shelf player that could plausibly take the title off of Taker.

If we learnt anything from the Jeff Hardy debacle last year, it's that hotshotting a title onto an up-and-coming talent does NOTHING for them, and in fact emphasises their midcard status by pointing out what a SHOCKING upset it is. The way I see it, the way to build up a new talent right now is to put the belt back on HHH, have him defend against Edge at Vengeance, then do HHH/Edge/Angle as the main at SummerSlam, having Angle walk out with the strap. That way we could move into an Angle/Edge title feud for the fall, with Edge having already cut his teeth at the top of the card.

So, in conclusion, putting the title on Trips is, in my opinion, the best move to make for the long-term.
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#20 Posted on 15.6.02 0507.46
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Actually the defense I was trying to point out is the situation leading up to Austin leaving. "Man of his word" can only go so far. I can come up with many hypothetical situations that would condone the breaking of the virtue of keeping one's own word.

There was a post by someone in another thread saying that people aren't seeing Austin's position as an actor. An actor is contractually binded, but in most soap operas, actors leave with no notice for many reasons and is generally accepted. We just don't know the interaction between both sides. WWE is crying that they tried and tried and how Ross is claiming he is surprised at Austin's cowardice at not confronting his issue with WWE's creative team. That's such a loaded statement.

All I'm saying is that people shouldn't take WWE's "news reports" as the definitive representation of what happened.

How many times have some of us or people we know looked like the bad guy in our/their job, but the work place really treated you with no respect.

As for Austin not caring about the fans, how exactly would you like him to express his love for his fans? By sucking up whatever anger he had with his employers to entertain you in what he probably feels is a demeaning situation?

Give Austin a chance to speak plz. One person said he may not have the outlet to speak, which could be true. Then all I'd ask is to not accept WWE's side without being skeptical.
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