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#1 Posted on 12.7.03 1755.08
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RAW has certainly improved over the last few months and has become more consistent. At least in my opinion.
With the advance planning they have over the next few weeks I think RAW may be reaching heights not seen in quite some time. Think about it, coming off a steller 4.2 rating and a hot crowd in Canada we get Molly Holly vs. Gail Kim next week. The folowing week is Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho in a heavily hyped wWrestlemania rematch. Also, that week will feature a storyline involving the Rock returning to set up a match on the August 4th RAW in Vacouver where he is filming his new movie.
I think it could be a very HOT RAW summer!
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#2 Posted on 12.7.03 1822.56
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Its too bad that the Molly Holly vs. Gail Kim match won't mean anything after the show is done. It seems like a great match, but WWE won't advance any storyline to it.

I love Chris Jericho so if he doesn't go over HBK in 2 weeks I will be really upset. They already jobbed Y2J out to HBK at WM, which is a match he should have won cause Y2J is a regular wrestler, HBK doesn't seem to do that much since returning.

And I would comment on The Rock, but to be fair, I was never a fan of his. People think he is funny or what not, but I just don't like him for some reason. But then again, I'm an Sean Waltman fan.

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#3 Posted on 12.7.03 1907.49
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After nearly a year of almost incessant Raw bashing, I'm surprised (or am I?) that more people aren't giving it credit for addressing some of the main criticisms it received. No, Raw isn't great every week. But at least it's consistent again. Guys in the midcard, for the mostpart, have a purpose. Storylines and feuds continue from week to week. I have to give a lot of credit for the current Kane storyline because here we are three weeks in and I'm still anxious to see what they're going to do with it next. I don't remember the last time I was that interested in a Raw angle. Finally, they are pushing new guys with regular meaningful TV time. Christian, Test, La Resistance, Randy Orton, Rodney Mack...whether you agree with their choices of guys to push at least they are trying to get these guys over. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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#4 Posted on 12.7.03 2209.38
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so true. RAW is really improved. Makes me wonder if Paul Heyman has been doing a lot of consulting.
Who knows? Whatever is going on , I think the are on the right track!
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#5 Posted on 13.7.03 0059.01
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As big a Molly fan as I am it's cool that she's got a Women Title match but unfortunately her match with Gail next week is nothing to do with Molly but all to do with making Gail look good and if your a fan of Gail then I'm sure it's great for you and her... Shouldn't they establish someone before giving them the title, oh well that's another story.

I've always been kind of a Raw apologist, certainly Raw has done a lot of wrong but I think they do more right and is better then most give it credit.

Austin's the main key, that man is entertaining. Just seeing him backstage being Austin P.I this past week had me in stitches, his facial expressions, they way he interacts with the other wrestlers. Fantastic. He's easily more entertaining then McMahons, Sable or any other non-wrestler on SD by a landslide.

Even though the make up effect is comical. I think Kane's new character is interesting. It's the first real tweener in a long time. It's keeping you guessing. I think especially what happened this week the Kane character is really interesting.

Trish & Nash last week was somewhat interesting. I wonder if that partnership will continue, will Shawn Michaels be part of it. Will the losing streak make Tirsh snap and go heel? Who will she partner if she does go heel. I really like the evolution idea that was thrown out there a few weeks ago concerning Trish. Or seeing HBK vs. Y2J maybe Trish will join Y2J, who knows... I've been a bit critical in the idea of giving Gail the title, but it does look like she brings the goods (offensive at least) so she adds to the women division.

I think La Resistance gets a bad rep here, and I like their gimmick and think they are decent enough wrestlers. And the Randy Orton push (even though I'm not sold on him at all) is continuing in a strong pace

All and all Raw seems to be doing okay and Ratings are having more upswings then they did a few months ago. Let's hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot *cough Goldberg monster destroy everyone push cough*




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#6 Posted on 13.7.03 1222.02
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I have to agree with everyone here, that even though I can get both Raw and Smackdown (thanks, Comcast), it's more and more obvious that Raw's improving by leaps and bounds compared to Smackdown. Look no further than Kane for the big proof. I was really not into the mask thing because it looked like once the mask is gone, it would be all over. But the opposite is happening. Trust me, compared to last year, this mask thing is a breeze, and fortunately, it's good stuff so far.

Hell, HHH's matches have gotten better since Wrestlemania, even his HIAC with Kevin Nash isn't near Taker-Bossman territory (as 99% of you guaranteed it would, and don't deny it!). Evolution is peaking my interest all the time, Christian is growing on me, Jericho's segments are always fun, and the women get my undying respect.

Raw isn't perfect of course, but I have to say that I'm now glad I sat through the crap. I really feel like I'm approaching the other end of the vacuum. But, I can't help but wonder, since the brand extension, has there been a time when both Raw and Smackdown had equally good shows in the same week? Let's all remember, of the two shows, Raw is still the senior, so keep that in mind.

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#7 Posted on 13.7.03 1327.38
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#8 Posted on 13.7.03 1331.09
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Ha. While I agree that Raw seems to be turning things around, that post did seem very shillish.
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#9 Posted on 13.7.03 1348.34
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    Originally posted by Net Hack Slasher
    Just seeing him backstage being Austin P.I. this past week had me in stitches.

    Maybe they could bring back William Regal as Higgins then?
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#10 Posted on 13.7.03 1355.41
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Hey, they stopped putting all the focus on Triple H and are actually giving character advancement to other people. There also seems to be more wrestling this time around. They're at least trying to build up the episodic nature of the show again.

What they lack is great talent, especially in the main-events. I honestly can't see anyone being taken seriously against Triple H on the Raw roster right now.
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#11 Posted on 14.7.03 0341.50
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Molly Holly and Gail Kim's match could be the highlight of Raw. It's obviously meant to put Kim over...and there's certainly nothing wrong with that. Molly will make her look good and put her over big time while Kim's program with Victoria will obviously be advanced. The women's division is getting some attention, whether people realize it or not.
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#12 Posted on 14.7.03 1229.36
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Ringmistress brought up a good point: Raw and Smackdown! haven't both been good in a long, long time. My memory's fuzzy but I bet both shows haven't been good since before the brand extension. If they have, it's been a fluke.

SD!'s ratings have been stable though. Except for weeks when it's pre-empted in major markets the ratings have been the same. Raw's been floating haphazzardly between threes and fours. So there's a good reason for them to be putting the extra effort there.
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#13 Posted on 14.7.03 1249.15
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Nah FAB, Smackdown was real good from July until November of last year. Raw, well it's a matter of opinion of course, but I would say January or February of 2001 that it has been good for any length of time.

Raw to me has been the more watchable program over the past three months. Even though, overall, Smackdown is proabably still the better show. It's just those 4 to 6 segments a night with Vince and Steph ruin it, kinda like after you brush your teeth you can't eat or drink anything for an hour, that's how it is with Smackdown.

Raw has been improving, their efforts at planning storylines more then a week in advance reminds me of a baby bird that just hatched from the egg, cautiously and clumsily adapting to it's new, unknown and dangerous environment. But it's a start!

Now if they just went to four matches a night and more storyline developement. I'd be a happy fan.
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#14 Posted on 14.7.03 1310.28
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Nag, I think you missed it. (Respectfully speaking, of course.)

SD! was great during the hey day of the SD! Six but Raw was mostly awful.
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#15 Posted on 15.7.03 0512.36
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Well...

I just watched the tape of Raw, and I would like to publicly retract paragraphs two and three from my last post.
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#16 Posted on 15.7.03 1006.06
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Uh, I just watched Raw too, and having read the Smackdown spoilers yesterday, I'll retain my thoughts from my previous post, especially about Kane. Cooking announcers beats necro anyday!
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