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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Raw 6-14-04
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#1 Posted on 14.6.04 2225.58
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Due to a VERY late-running meeting, my night's Raw is JIP'ed (mid-way through the La Res vs. Super Heroes match). So no Fashion Report tonight. But I DO have lots of mouth-spouting to be doing.

Milky Way is "pleasure you can't measure." That's just another thing we don't have in common.

Batista, I will note, is wearing gold "Batista" undies with a red...something on the crotch.

I think Matt will realize it's not his kid when he does the math and realizes that he and Lita haven't had sex for a few months. The only problem is that Kane doesn't have junk (according to the Tori of Summer of '98), so HE can't be the father. That means...Vince Russo will jump to the WW so HE can be the father. Huh?

Line of the match from JR: "Gail Kim just jerked Stacy off..." I don't get it.

The Main Event was a very good match. Flair bleeds from the chest from all the chops. Wow.
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#2 Posted on 14.6.04 2229.23
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This was about two hours of crap (including the worst first hour of Raw all year) followed by a PPV-caliber main event that saved the show.

That and the fact that the show ended at 11 freakin' 25.
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#3 Posted on 14.6.04 2230.05
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I can't believe they're actually going through with this godawful pregnancy thing. As soon as I saw the test in her hand, I physically slapped myself on the forehead.....and this show hasn't made me do that for quite a while.....

Rest was good. You'd think Kane would hold a SLIGHT grudge against HHH though, considering he's the one who took his mask
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#4 Posted on 14.6.04 2230.24
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know what raw really needed? More triple h, and more prego-lita!
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#5 Posted on 14.6.04 2231.10
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That RAW took WAY too long. 20 extra minutes. I guess they got the time since they had to spend 10 mins plugging Joe Schmoe 2. I really dont like how WWE has to shill other crappy TV shows on the network. I mean, even back when RAW was on USA, they had to shill LaFemme Nikita and Shatner's crappy sci-fi show, Tek Wars(not sure on the name). At least keep the plugs quick and painless. I dont need to see a 5-10 minute feature on a wrestling show.

Also, why would Lita want a camera showing her taking a piss to see if she was pregnant? Wouldnt she want a little alone time for that?

Also, I am getting really sick of these "major injury" angles. We all KNOW Michaels isnt really hurt. I know wrestling is about suspending disbelief, but come on. Spitting up blood like a bad horror movie and wasting like 10 mins showing stretcher/amblulence stuff is a bit much. WE GET THE POINT.

But, Eugene saved the show. Pee + Regal = RATINGS!
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#6 Posted on 14.6.04 2231.41
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In honour of Lance Storm...

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#7 Posted on 14.6.04 2233.38
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Any doubt Jim Ross has hit senility was proven early in RAW tonite. One segment after his 'In my 30 years in the business' (gee, Jim jumped from 25 to 30, well he was at 25 for a few years) speech for how great Michaels/Trip HITC was and its legendary status, he forgets about Kane setting him on fire less than a year ago as he ponders how Kane could be capable of such an action on Michaels.
Up until the Main Event, it seemed like the show's theme was: Take a bad wrestler to work day.
If La Resistance is going to use the Quebec flag, isn't the Canadian national anthem something they would be against?
Rosey and Hurricane might be staler than the Dudleys.
Stacy and Lita 'acting' together? How I didn't throw an object through the TV to end the pain of that segment astounds me.
Funny segment with Eugene, although it did seem to drag at times.
Has the Joe Schmo infomercial ended yet? At least they'll have an excuse for a low rating in that segment.
Has the Edge turn now been aborted, at least temporarily?
Considering two of the 'young lions' of the business were on Evolution's side, does it speak volumes that Flair was carrying most of the match for that side? And Batista might have surpassed Orton.
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#8 Posted on 14.6.04 2233.52
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I enjoyed this RAW. I don't know where they'll go w/ the Kane/Michaels situation, although I'd be interested in a match between them, I don't believe they've ever fought. I felt that the Highlite Reel situation was gold. Regal, Jericho, Eugene and Hunter were perfect in their roles. Regal's facial expressions continue to impress. The final match was also very good.

The low note for me was the complete ridiculousness of the Lita/Stacy segment. Thank God those hidden cameras are in every room in the back. They're a life saver.(rolls eyes)

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#9 Posted on 14.6.04 2234.23
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Save for the main event, that was the worst RAW in, like, forever. By standard logic, this week's SmackDown! should be the greatest show ever.

Also, I agree with mercer. This show needs more Lita.


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#10 Posted on 14.6.04 2237.45
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Random thoughts on Raw:

-Has anyone noticed that for about every commercial break for about one year that one second of that Craftmatic adjustable bed commercial shows just before Raw goes on the air. Damn is that shit annoying.

-Highlight reel was great. Uncle Hunter cares.

-Isn't a flag match where you try to grab your opponents flag? And why did Lawler say he doesn't know what a flag match is? The Patriot Del Wilkes?

-I wish Kane was the ambulance driver and went crazy on HBK. Following it up with a "Kane 3:16 just whooped your ass," would be nice too.

-Clean finish main event was creepy.
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#11 Posted on 14.6.04 2241.22
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    Originally posted by Juggalo101
    Has anyone noticed that for about every commercial break for about one year that one second of that Craftmatic adjustable bed commercial shows just before Raw goes on the air. Damn is that shit annoying.
What? You get that too?! I thought that was a local thing! However, once in a blue moon, we actually get to see a full Craftmatic commercial. Not that it's all that exciting, though.
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#12 Posted on 14.6.04 2242.46
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#13 Posted on 14.6.04 2243.10
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That commercial thing is due to satellite and cable running different commercials for the same show. Sometimes the feed gets a bit crossed since WWF's main feed is cable...
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#14 Posted on 14.6.04 2243.35
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Eh...wasn't into it at all. the HBK thing was so fucking lame...they had to splice the replay to show the bad camera flub of Kane on the chair thing.....but the plus was, I got to catch the season premiere of Reno 911! that I missed last week...
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#15 Posted on 14.6.04 2245.35
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Wow to the main event. I can't remember the last time a free television main-event went on so long. (Not counting the SmackDown! Royal Rumble, of course, which isn't any ordinary kinda match).

Then again, having an awesome, long main event like that was the only way WWE was gonna be able to compensate me for having a fuckin' 15-minute Joe Schmo 2 promo. (It was the only way they were gonna compensate me and get away with it, I should rephrase).

I'm gonna make it a point not to watch Joe Schmo 2, just because of the insane advertising campaign. Jeez, why doesn't SpikeTV just come out with Joe Schmo 2 shaving cream, bread and dessert toppings while they're at it?

On the negative side... gaaa, I can't believe The Idiots in The Back Writing This Crap are actually going through with the Lita pregnancy angle. Does anyone actually watch previous episodes of RAW and SmackDown? Do any of the writers know how badly these things have tanked in the past?

I also don't particularly understand why WWE felt the need to show us Shawn Michaels being rolled all the way to the ambulance. Hell, I was surprised they didn't show the ambulance ride in its entirety. Next week on RAW, Shawn Michaels gets injured again at the hands of Kane, and not only do we see the ambulance ride in its entirety, but we have an entire ER segment starring HBK.

“Crushed larynx! I need some [technobabble this] and [random medication that], STAT!” And then we cut to an HBK dream sequence, in which he's playing with his kids on a swingset. We'll make millions!

Nice to see Matt Hardy on RAW, as always, but the people in charge of his entrance really need to learn how to do it correctly. First they show the Mattitude borders while they cut away to an HBK ambulance sequence, and then, when he finally comes out, Trish's entrance video is still playing for the first 15 seconds or so. Funga, foiled again! And I would have gotten away with it too, had it not been for those meddling kids and their mangy dog!

Hee hee, Tyson came out to Trish's theme. How emasculating.

Is there some kinda flag-displaying rule against flying the U.S. flag lower than any other flag? I mean, it isn't a law or anything, but flying a U.S. flag below the flag of a Canadian province?

I would also ask what the point was of making it a non-title match when the champions were gonna win anyway. But anyway.

I don't want y'all to get the impression that I don't like the beginning of the HBK/Kane feud. I think it's wonderful, and about time. I just don't see the point of throwing in the Lita crap, and I wish they would've cut down on the gurney sequence, that's all.

The Highlight Reel segment was awesome. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, especially when Triple H said, “1-2-3, PEDIGREE!” But it's far more interesting that he didn't hurt Eugene at that time. It gives us kind of a slow burn to next week, allowing Trips to use Eugene for his own purposes (even against Regal and Jericho).

I loved that they brought up the “Jericho pissing in Regal's tea” thing from 2001, too. Regal's reaction when Eugene admitted to having done it recently was classic.

Anyway... the Joe Schmo 2 mega-fuckin'-promo temporarily took me out of the show, even though it almost certainly wasn't WWE's fault. The Lita crap continues. But they made up for it with a great Eugene sequence again, and a killer main event. Overall, thumbs up.
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#16 Posted on 14.6.04 2249.18
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Two big time high points this week: first, the main event. Although there were about 3 thousand chops and 3 Flair flops during the match, it was still very energetic and well-executed... plus it built up Benoit as someone who overcomes the odds again, as well as further establishing Batista as a monster. The crowd being HOT HOT HOT all night really helped too. And it's a nice touch that they finally have to take extra time after Ross constantly saying week after week how they'll take as long as they need to to finish the main event.

The highlight reel was entertaining too... from Eugene bringing up the Cup of Pee to HHH's mock sincerity (and Eugene's perfect reactions), it was a well-acted segment. Plus I really have no idea what they'll do with HHH-Eugene next week, especially since the Rock could show up.

Other than that, a blah show. Tomko makes a nice impression by blowing a spot big-time (I have no idea what the hell he was trying to do), the writing team makes a nice impression by going with the always money-drawing success that is the pregnancy angle, and the WWE advertising department makes a corporate impression by shilling the holy bejeezus out of Joe Schmo 2 AND that $1 million dollar YJ Stinger contest they have.

Grenier's signing was HORRIBLE, but he and Conway could be entertaining as overzealous nationals who look like idiots in the process. Tag division is dead anyways (that was about the 394585th time that they've fought HurriSHIT), might as well play them up for some laughs before Conway goes off on his own.

And if they have to do an injury angle to get Michaels off of TV, they did a decent enough job. He sure put Ken Shamrock to shame, that's for sure.

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#17 Posted on 14.6.04 2250.08
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10:10pm Central, and here comes..."the last commercial break of the night"? Who scheduled a commercial break at what would normally be the end of the overrun?!?

The best of the night IMO was Triple H playing up to Eugene. That was such an awesome bully move. Didn't Regal already learn about Jericho peeing in his tea though?

So I'm thinking Michaels is out till, say, Summerslam, and then he comes back for revenge against Triple H for not saving him.

Why couldn't Bret Hart make a cameo appearance as the ambulance driver?

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#18 Posted on 14.6.04 2250.24
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I missed Raw due to Musical Rehersal but in a way seems like I didn't miss much

Just a question, what WAS the main event?
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#19 Posted on 14.6.04 2252.20
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    Originally posted by shinstrife
    I missed Raw due to Musical Rehersal but in a way seems like I didn't miss much

    Just a question, what WAS the main event?






Benoit/Jericho/Edge vs. Batista/Orton/Flair in a 35 minute Elimination Six Man match.
For the Canadians on TSN: What did they throw on during the Joe Schmo Infomercial of Doom?

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#20 Posted on 14.6.04 2257.47
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North o' the border we didn't get the Schmo promo... we got tem minutes of commercials and recap from the Euro 2004 soccermajig. My roommate came in and said, hey isn't RAW supposed to be on? It was surreal.
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