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#1 Posted on 8.10.11 1049.10
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    Originally posted by Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    On a side note, Christian is on Twitter with the OccupyRaw tag (a spin off of the political thing that is in the news) - I'm kind of intrigued to see if that plays out on television too, come Raw.


#OccupyRaw is being used by the wrestlers on Twitter who walked out, Christian, Wade Barrett, and others, even Kofi Kingston. It's not just a heel thing. #OccupyRaw indicates the walkout-ers will (of course) be at RAW on Monday, and they're still demanding Triple H step down. In fact, there will be a Rally of Solidarity (wwe.com) before RAW for the Walkout-ers.

The goal of #OccupyRaw seems to be a bit fudged - it went from Triple H stepping down as COO to Triple H stepping down from running RAW, since they're all fine being on Smackdown under Teddy Long's auspices as long as they never see or hear or deal with Triple H.

And never hearing or seeing Triple H is a goal I can thoroughly get behind.

#OCCUPYRAW!

Also, a good thing that came out of Smackdown was WWE Champion Alberto Del Rio was firmly introduced by the heel walkout-ers as the leader and instigator of their end of the #OccupyRaw movement. And Del Rio's character tweak into being more serious and vicious is working.

But perhaps the best thing: #OccupyRaw legal counsel David Otunga's bow tie and cardigan sweater combo.

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#2 Posted on 8.10.11 1057.21
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I think this a fantastic storyline, in that really brings something fresh to the table ... I don't recall anything in recent memory that's been done like this, so it has me hooked ...

now how long is it before outside players start (re)emerging? ... HBK? Nash? Vince? Stephanie? Others?
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#3 Posted on 8.10.11 1107.08
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I like this too. I'm excited to tune into #OccupyRaw to see what happens.

They should find a way to stretch hostilities out three more weeks just so Peace on RAW can be brokered by The Muppets.
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#4 Posted on 8.10.11 1129.45
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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    I like this too. I'm excited to tune into #OccupyRaw to see what happens.

    They should find a way to stretch hostilities out three more weeks just so Peace on RAW can be brokered by The Muppets.


It's time to pay the piper.
It's time to dress like Dave.

I don't like the implication that this is a commentary on the Wall Street settlements. Striker made comments about socialism and labor on Superstars. If the faces are against the walkout, this gambles that the WWE universe is eager to boo protests in the WWE and on Wall Street. And that may be a misperception of the audience regardless of how many times HHH claims to act for the fans' benefit.

Rasslin can be social commentary. But I wonder if the WWE knows what statement it really wants to make. I mean, super-rich Alberto leading the midcard against super-rich HHH and the face main eventers?
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#5 Posted on 8.10.11 1357.26
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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Striker made comments about socialism and labor on Superstars.

WWE is probably as right-wing as anything on television outside of FOX news if you look at the actual values it portrays (mindless uncritical patriotism, rabid xenophobia, etc). It doesn't help that Linda and Vince are major Republicans. Triple H, the "job creator", is clearly the babyface here, but I don't think we're going to get a layered politcal satire. I just think the basic formula as always will depict right-wing values as right and liberal values as wrong. Which is odd given WWE's audience skews more democratic than any other sport (according to Meltzer).



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#6 Posted on 8.10.11 1410.52
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    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Striker made comments about socialism and labor on Superstars.

    WWE is probably as right-wing as anything on television outside of FOX news if you look at the actual values it portrays (mindless uncritical patriotism, rabid xenophobia, etc). It doesn't help that Linda and Vince are major Republicans. Triple H, the "job creator", is clearly the babyface here, but I don't think we're going to get a layered politcal satire. I just think the basic formula as always will depict right-wing values as right and liberal values as wrong. Which is odd given WWE's audience skews more democratic than any other sport (according to Meltzer).



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Fiscal conservatives, really. I'd say they're socially liberal, probably.
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#7 Posted on 8.10.11 1414.38
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And CM Punk tweets his opinions...

    Originally posted by CM Punk
    CMPunk CM Punk
    @ @MJH61785 @mikethemiz is just doing his best punk impersonation. Except instead of fighting HHH he hired a lawyer. He's so hood!



    Originally posted by CM Punk
    CMPunk CM Punk
    @coltcabana hey, you doing anything Monday?
    1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply


    Originally posted by CM Punk
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    Solidarity rally? Legit, how many of you sissies even know what solidarity means? I'll be in OKC for raw. Bunch of followers...
    1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply


    Originally posted by CM Punk
    CMPunk CM Punk
    I started this all, I'll finish it.
    1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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#8 Posted on 8.10.11 1555.54
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I am shocked that WWE is reacting to current events in a timely manner. I wasn't expecting OccupyRAW until sometime in June. I give them props for being on the cutting edge here.

If they feel that they need to go the right-wing propaganda route with this, I hope that they go full blast with it. Give Matt Striker a live mic to talk about how socialist he thinks the country is, lots of testimonials about how many jobs the WWE creates, and have JBL back in the announce team.

Whatever they end up doing, I am excited for RAW.
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#9 Posted on 8.10.11 1642.25
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I'm not sure the crack writing team of the WWE is fully cognizant of WHY Wall Street is being occupied.

(Then again, I'm sure a majority of the folks occupying Wall Street *also* have no idea why they're there.)

(Also, people posting in this thread.)

NOTE: as much as this post may look like it, this is NOT an invitation to talk politics in this thread if it's not WWE related. You can go start that other thread over in the other place.
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#10 Posted on 8.10.11 1820.30
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Given that some have argued that the Union angle (and HHH being a babyface) is connected to Linda's Senate run, I doubt we see anything as radical as the Wall Street stuff in WWE.
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#11 Posted on 8.10.11 1906.15
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I think it kind of has a Raven's Flockish/early nWo feel to it, also. Not in the sense that they want to take over the programme but in the sense that they're there to cause a disturbance.

I also love that there's no real black and white distinction of the two parties involved (us vs. them) with the involvement of CM Punk and his reactions. You have the people that want a line in the sand and won't do anything until Triple H is out, you have people like CM Punk (and I'm presuming John Cena) who don't really like how things are going but pretty much want to say "man up and settle things your own way" and then you have the friction between Triple H and the rest of the board.

Needless to say I'm excited - it's one of those times I wish Smackdown was live, too. I hope they keep up with the "Occupy" concept.

(Thank you for creating a thread too from the post in the Smackdown thread :))

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#12 Posted on 8.10.11 1915.29
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I think they just saw something on TV and just stole it like they usually do. As much as Metzler is in the right in this, I think the Punk twitter is going to skew this into not being as right wing as WWE wants. Yet, I still believe they have no idea what they are doing with this storyline and are just grabbing things here and there to make it somehow relevant.
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#13 Posted on 8.10.11 1931.50
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I presume Vince comes out with a "I'm in the 1%" signs.
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#14 Posted on 8.10.11 2153.38
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    Originally posted by odessasteps

    I presume Vince comes out with a "I'm in the 1%" signs.


Better a fan with a sign that says " I made Vince the 1%."
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#15 Posted on 8.10.11 2154.08
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I really don't think this is anything more than snagging a catchy phrase for the product.

Here's hoping this does SOMETHING to bring Punk back to a few weeks ago.
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#16 Posted on 9.10.11 0027.03
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    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by odessasteps

      I presume Vince comes out with a "I'm in the 1%" signs.


    Better a fan with a sign that says " I made Vince the 1%."


Make it a brick joke: Have Lodi do it.
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#17 Posted on 9.10.11 1343.09
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I find it interesting how a WWE.com article regarding the walkout (and which young Superstars could benefit from the added TV time from the minimized roster) never once refers to Cena, Punk, Sheamus, Orton and Big Show with any derogatory terminology that one would usually see in such a circumstance. Such as "strikebreakers", "picket-walkers" or "scabs".

It's a walkout, not a strike, so it's not a perfect metaphor, but it still fits for the most part.

And it also talks about "what will COO Triple H do to punish the people" who dare to challenge his authority, so this still ain't a democracy or a collective bargaining union, this is a dictatorship.

I like how Zack Ryder's right on top of the aforementioned list of young Superstars who could break out, however.

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#18 Posted on 9.10.11 1805.50
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    Originally posted by Dionysus
    If they feel that they need to go the right-wing propaganda route with this, I hope that they go full blast with it. Give Matt Striker a live mic to talk about how socialist he thinks the country is, lots of testimonials about how many jobs the WWE creates, and have JBL back in the announce team.


Or they can just call up Damien Sandow and call it a night.
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#19 Posted on 9.10.11 1855.06
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They need to bring back Abe "Knuckleball" Scwartz and his "I'm on Strike" sign.

He spent to whole summer of '94 walking around arenas with that sign, but they never did anything else with it.


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#20 Posted on 9.10.11 2016.06
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... but who is going to call and officiate all the matches?


Everyone is okay with Teddy Long, but he was in charge when Mark Henry began pancaking everyone on the roster and Long never did get Henry under control.

I suppose Mark Henry was in on the walkout because of the heavy fine levied by Triple H, which means that Helmsley got his attention which is more than Teddy Long was able to do, so maybe some of these guys should rethink their position.






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