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|  #1 Posted on 26.6.04 1902.59
Reposted on: 26.6.11 1903.46 | -From Cold Pizza site: CAP Index (capindex.com), a recognized crime forecasting expert, ranks US baseball stadiums from least safe to safest-... **I didn't know Toronto and Montreal are now offically part of the US"**
Least safest
New York Yankees
Detroit Tigers
St. Louis Cardinals
San Francisco Giants
Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Baltimore Orioles
Houston Astros
Atlanta Braves
Toronto Blue Jays
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Los Angeles Dodgers
Seattle Mariners
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Arizona Diamondbacks
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Boston Red Sox
Pittsburgh Pirates
Milwaukee Brewers
Anaheim Angels
Texas Rangers
safest
The Bronx and Detroit is not that surprising but ST.L, San Fran and T.O, unless you count pieces fall off Skydome... I expected L.A, Philly and maybe NYM to be higher, I guess Dodger Stadium is safe because they keep those dangerous lesbians out 
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|  #2 Posted on 26.6.04 1913.43
Reposted on: 26.6.11 1914.03 | Originally posted by Net Hack Slasher
-From Cold Pizza site: CAP Index (capindex.com), a recognized crime forecasting expert, ranks US baseball stadiums from least safe to safest-... **I didn't know Toronto and Montreal are now offically part of the US"**
Their stadiums are part of US baseball? I guess it's where you group your words. | Whitebacon
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| #3 Posted on 26.6.04 1945.19
Reposted on: 26.6.11 1945.42 | | I too am surprised that PacBell/SBC Park is rated that high (or low). I'd be willing to bet that it has something to do with the tremendous amount of homeless that panhandle along the first base side of the stadium, near the 20 dollar parking lots. | PeterStork
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| #4 Posted on 26.6.04 1953.35
Reposted on: 26.6.11 1953.49 | | With Busch, I guess it's sort of the neighborhood at night, or at least the southern fourth of it. If you go north to downtown or east to the river, you're fine. To the west, there are dark warehouses and parking garages but also police headquarters. Go south and you head towards public housing and some not-so-nice neighborhoods, but I don't know why people would head that way anyway. MetroLink is directly west of the stadium, as are most all the garages. It's hardly a rough area. | StaggerLee
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| #5 Posted on 27.6.04 0855.31
Reposted on: 27.6.11 0856.02 | | Yeah, I was very suprised by the Busch Stadium being there, so high up. But then again, at night that whole area is empty, and if you venture there, you pretty much get what you deserve anyhow. Although, Keener Plaze at 3AM, drunk and hot from partying at the Landing all night, it is pretty nice, quiet and peacefull, and you can play in the fountains. | Grimis
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| #6 Posted on 27.6.04 1047.30
Reposted on: 27.6.11 1047.44 | | The Camden Yards area is not that dangerous. Close to the area is, but the place crawls with cops and it's a quick jaunt out of town... | Doc_whiskey
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| #7 Posted on 27.6.04 1104.06
Reposted on: 27.6.11 1104.17 | | I can see SBC because I thought I read someone got killed there last year. Busch shocks me I have never had a problem. The only robbery there is the price they charge for nachos (ZING!) | Whitebacon
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| #8 Posted on 27.6.04 1207.42
Reposted on: 27.6.11 1209.22 | Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
I can see SBC because I thought I read someone got killed there last year. Busch shocks me I have never had a problem. The only robbery there is the price they charge for nachos (ZING!)
Some dope got into a fight with another dope and one of them got pushed over the rightfield wall onto the ground below. (I think) Unless you're talking about the Dodger fan that got shot/stabbed.
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| #9 Posted on 27.6.04 1818.27
Reposted on: 27.6.11 1818.52 | Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
Busch shocks me I have never had a problem. The only robbery there is the price they charge for nachos (ZING!)
Until two years ago, those nachos were worth EVERY PENNY you paid for them, but now SportService offers up stale, pathetic nachos that are not your daddy's quasi-Mexican treat. The sad thing is, I'm sure they're rather cheap compared to other ballparks...Busch is bad, but not TOO bad. | NickBockwinkelFan
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| #10 Posted on 28.6.04 0001.45
Reposted on: 28.6.11 0002.35 | Drawing a parallel between the capindex.com crime statistics and the safety of the ballpark is an exercise in futility.
From capindex.com website:
CAP's products and services are derived from a methodology based upon the strong relationship existing between a neighborhood's "social disorganization" and the amount of crime that is perpetrated there. By combining surrounding social characteristics, survey information and other databases with known indicators of crime, CAP data provides precise scores indicating a site's risk of crime in comparison to national, state and county averages. Our database is updated annually ensuring our clients always have access to current risk information.
CAP Indexs advanced evaluation model is designed to accurately identify the risk of personal and property crimes for any specific address or location in the United States. It was created to be a much more detailed report than a typical Police Statistical Report or the FBI Uniform Crime Report. The model is based upon the strong relationship that exists between a neighborhoods "Social Disorder" and the amount of crime that is perpetrated there. The Crime Data supporting the model is derived from Police Reports, Victim Reports, Self-Reports, and Corporate Loss Reports.
Social Disorder is measured by analyzing 21 demographic variables including: Population Data, Housing Data, Population Mobility, Economic Data, and Educational Data as known indicators of crime. This data is updated and validated on an annual basis. CAP Index provides 90 Crime Vulnerability Assessment scores for each location scored, providing present-day scores as well as past and projected comparisons based upon the National, State and County averages. Specifically, the types of crime examined are:
Crimes Against Persons: Homicide, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault
Crimes Against Property: Burglary, Larceny, Motor Vehicle Theft
Why Not Just Police Reports?
Police Reports and the FBI Uniform Crime Report (UCR) are useful compliments to CAP Index scores, but are not thorough enough by themselves. Police Reports are not uniformly available.
Participation in the UCR is voluntary, and many jurisdictions release only select information they choose. At its release, UCR data may be up to 18 months old, and does not typically differentiate between high risk and low risk areas within a citys boundaries. Police and UCR data are generally not available in database format, reducing their value in terms of comparing multiple sites.
CAP Index, Inc. scores are based upon uniform and identical data for every location in the United States.
Fact: the South Bronx is an extremely tough neighborhood
Fact: on any given gameday (or gamenight) the police presence in and around the ballpark is huge
Fact: this strong police presence makes going to, attending and leaving the game an extremely safe proposition (with the possible exception of Red Sox fans)
Fact: going to a Yankee game is safe, hanging out at 190th and Grand Concourse at 3:00 am is probably not
Using concrete crime statistics is one thing. But capindex, combines this hard data with their own subjective "formulas" to factor in unquantifiable sociological issues. Their theory is faulty, because the variables are constantly in flux.
Note: I also know this is faulty due to St.Louis being so high on the list. The neighborhood that is home to the Pro Bowling (PBA) Hall of Fame is definitely UPSCALE.
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