The W
Views: 138402681
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Color chart | Log in for more!
20.11.11 0539
The 7 - Movies & TV - Nolan confirms no new joker in Batman 3 Register and log in to post!
(753 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (14 total)
StaggerLee
Scrapple
Level: 154

Posts: 5054/7082
EXP: 45745626
For next: 616348

Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 31 days
Last activity: 16 hours
#1 Posted on 12.7.10 1416.52
Reposted on: 12.7.17 1417.06
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FILM_BATMAN_SEQUEL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-07-12-09-32-05

I really think people would be against recasting it anyway, but I don't think it would hurt the franchise's numbers if they did. Still no word on what the villain will be.
Promote this thread!
John Orquiola
Scrapple
Level: 127

Posts: 1439/4479
EXP: 23428922
For next: 297709

Since: 28.2.02
From: Boston

Since last post: 1605 days
Last activity: 1605 days
#2 Posted on 12.7.10 1524.36
Reposted on: 12.7.17 1525.05
Well, good. I never thought there was ever any serious intent to recast the role or even bring The Joker back for Nolan's third Batman. But if they did, they should cast Edward Norton. Or Eric Bana. Or Joaquin Phoenix.
Alessandro
Lap cheong
Level: 85

Posts: 1526/1743
EXP: 5714045
For next: 184519

Since: 2.1.02
From: Worcester MA

Since last post: 32 days
Last activity: 6 days
#3 Posted on 12.7.10 1815.38
Reposted on: 12.7.17 1815.38
So, for storyline purposes, we'll just work under the assumption that the Joker is locked up tight in Arkham for the duration of the film (no doubt concocting his inevitable escape)?

Or perhaps, in this reality, Gotham City actually has the death penalty ... seeing as how he did off a bunch of cops, blow up at least two buildings (one of them being the police station), and various other death-penalty-able offenses.
samoflange
Lap cheong
Level: 84

Posts: 1280/1786
EXP: 5538740
For next: 123236

Since: 22.2.04
From: Cambridge, MA

Since last post: 1860 days
Last activity: 1852 days
#4 Posted on 12.7.10 1900.26
Reposted on: 12.7.17 1900.42
I'd think the "locked up in Arkham" idea would be the way to go. Even having a shot inside Arkham of a shadowy figure sitting on the floor with a straight jacket on and "Joker" on the door would be a good enough callback scene. And I bet there is some cutting room floor footage of Heath Ledger that could be re-purposed for quick flashbacks or whatever needs to be done if Nolan' story calls for any short Joker involvement.

I'm really glad this movie isn't being rushed out like so many franchise sequels have been lately. The Dark Knight/Iron Man/Hulk combo from the summer of 2008 was so good that it doesn't even feel like there's been another summer blockbuster season since then as not much else has compelled me to visit the theatre.
GRL
Frankfurter
Level: 61

Posts: 643/833
EXP: 1858181
For next: 18426

Since: 13.7.02
From: Austin

Since last post: 2 days
Last activity: 2 days
#5 Posted on 12.7.10 1952.06
Reposted on: 12.7.17 1952.10
Yes, those long-ago days of the summer of... 2008.

I'm more thrilled there's no return for Harvey Dent or Rachel Dawes to come.
John Orquiola
Scrapple
Level: 127

Posts: 1441/4479
EXP: 23428922
For next: 297709

Since: 28.2.02
From: Boston

Since last post: 1605 days
Last activity: 1605 days
#6 Posted on 12.7.10 2012.08
Reposted on: 12.7.17 2012.31
    Originally posted by Alessandro
    Or perhaps, in this reality, Gotham City actually has the death penalty ... seeing as how he did off a bunch of cops, blow up at least two buildings (one of them being the police station), and various other death-penalty-able offenses.


Interesting scenario you bring up about the death penalty. As a city, I doubt Gotham City could have a death penalty, but since Gotham is actually Chicago in Nolan's Batuniverse, it turns out the state of Illinois does have the death penalty.

http://deadlinethemovie.com/state/IL/index.php

Not that I would necessarily expect this to be referenced in the next Batman film, and they've never stated outright in the movie what state Gotham is in, but I found it interesting.
Big Bad
Scrapple
Level: 155

Posts: 5522/7061
EXP: 46584141
For next: 833186

Since: 4.1.02
From: Dorchester, Ontario

Since last post: 135 days
Last activity: 10 days
#7 Posted on 13.7.10 0144.37
Reposted on: 13.7.17 0144.47
An execution scenario is totally unlikely. They're not going to acknowledge Ledger's death by having his character also be mentioned as being offed, that'd definitely be seen as a little tasteless. I'd bet that Joker just isn't mentioned for the entire film --- maybe a few past references to 'chaos in Gotham' but no specific callbacks.
dMp
Knackwurst
Level: 107

Posts: 2035/2968
EXP: 12694623
For next: 396730

Since: 4.1.02
From: The Hague, Netherlands (Europe)

Since last post: 7 days
Last activity: 5 days
#8 Posted on 13.7.10 0226.39
Reposted on: 13.7.17 0226.46
Why do people feel he should be shown?
I don't think they showed Ra's al Ghul in the 2nd movie?
Definitely no new scenes. And Scarecrow was still on the loose at the end of the first one, so it made sense that he had a cameo.

Everyone who at least knows Batman a little bit will know theý lock all the criminals in Arkham asylum until they escape. There's no need to give the guy (or his CGI form) a special appearance.


TheBucsFan
TheChiefsFan
Level: 113

Posts: 2860/3428
EXP: 15760124
For next: 58485

Since: 2.1.02

Since last post: 1561 days
Last activity: 1561 days
#9 Posted on 13.7.10 0245.02
Reposted on: 13.7.17 0245.40
    Originally posted by dMp
    Why do people feel he should be shown?
    I don't think they showed Ra's al Ghul in the 2nd movie?
    Definitely no new scenes.


Ra's al Ghul wasn't seen at the end of Batman Begins saying, "you and I are destined to do this forever." Also, he died in a train crash, and I don't think there are any immortals in Nolan's Batman.

I don't think they should or will continue with Joker now that Ledger is dead, but had he not died I think they should have and would have. Not necessarily as a primary antagonist, but he is Batman's signature foe after all.
dMp
Knackwurst
Level: 107

Posts: 2036/2968
EXP: 12694623
For next: 396730

Since: 4.1.02
From: The Hague, Netherlands (Europe)

Since last post: 7 days
Last activity: 5 days
#10 Posted on 13.7.10 0350.51
Reposted on: 13.7.17 0350.57
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by dMp
      Why do people feel he should be shown?
      I don't think they showed Ra's al Ghul in the 2nd movie?
      Definitely no new scenes.


    Ra's al Ghul wasn't seen at the end of Batman Begins saying, "you and I are destined to do this forever." Also, he died in a train crash, and I don't think there are any immortals in Nolan's Batman.

    I don't think they should or will continue with Joker now that Ledger is dead, but had he not died I think they should have and would have. Not necessarily as a primary antagonist, but he is Batman's signature foe after all.


Ok, good point. I forgot about that line.
But still "destined to do this forever" doesn't mean he has to show up in #3. If Batman turns to Gordon saying "Is he still secure" "Yes, 24-7 surveillance" than they done their job for one entire movie.
Throw in a "We've got our best doctor, Ms. Quinn, working with him" to throw fans a bone.
PeterStork
Sujuk
Level: 67

Posts: 923/1009
EXP: 2512080
For next: 80806

Since: 25.1.02
From: Chicagoland with Hoosiers, or "The Region"

Since last post: 1335 days
Last activity: 1098 days
#11 Posted on 13.7.10 0837.12
Reposted on: 13.7.17 0837.16
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by Alessandro
      Or perhaps, in this reality, Gotham City actually has the death penalty ... seeing as how he did off a bunch of cops, blow up at least two buildings (one of them being the police station), and various other death-penalty-able offenses.


    Interesting scenario you bring up about the death penalty. As a city, I doubt Gotham City could have a death penalty, but since Gotham is actually Chicago in Nolan's Batuniverse, it turns out the state of Illinois does have the death penalty.

    http://deadlinethemovie.com/​state/​IL/​index.php

    Not that I would necessarily expect this to be referenced in the next Batman film, and they've never stated outright in the movie what state Gotham is in, but I found it interesting.


To be technical, and a bit OT, and a bit anal, and a bit annoying, and a bit repetitive, Illinois does not enforce the death penalty. Governor Ryan issued a moratorium about ten years ago and we have not killed anyone yet, nor plan to. It's true that a prosecutor can seek the death penalty and receive a sentence, but the state would not carry out the penalty. T

his all came about after thirteen people on death row were proved innocent by DNA testing. At the same time, the state killed...thirteen people. Not great odds.
Mayhem
Scrapple
Level: 116

Posts: 3338/3693
EXP: 16925358
For next: 398787

Since: 25.4.03
From: Nashville, TN

Since last post: 483 days
Last activity: 368 days
#12 Posted on 13.7.10 0922.27
Reposted on: 13.7.17 0923.12

Now if only he would reveal who the villian is in the film ....
Scottyflamingo
Bratwurst
Level: 70

Posts: 34/1423
EXP: 2974961
For next: 40865

Since: 23.6.10
From: Auburn, AL

Since last post: 1950 days
Last activity: 1679 days
#13 Posted on 13.7.10 1650.33
Reposted on: 13.7.17 1650.40
I really want to see a really good (and new) take on the Riddler. He's one of my favorite Bat Villains, but rarely gets utilized to his full potential.
StingArmy
Andouille
Level: 91

Posts: 1631/2118
EXP: 7346108
For next: 122833

Since: 3.5.03
From: Georgia bred, you can tell by my Hawk jersey

Since last post: 1002 days
Last activity: 106 days
#14 Posted on 13.7.10 1805.33
Reposted on: 13.7.17 1805.56
    Originally posted by Mayhem

    Now if only he would reveal who the villian is in the film ....

Wait, you mean Eddie Murphy isn't REALLY gonna be Egghead in the next movie??

- StingArmy
ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE
Thread ahead: The Expendables Call to Arms trailer
Next thread: The Sorcerer's Apprentice
Previous thread: Double Showcase Win on "The Price is Right" - and more
(753 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
Related threads: Morgan Freeman Hospitalized - POW! BIFF! ZORT! ASSUALT! - The Dark Knight - More...
The 7 - Movies & TV - Nolan confirms no new joker in Batman 3Register and log in to post!

The W™ message board - 7 year recycle

ZimBoard
©2001-2018 Brothers Zim
This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.218 seconds.