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#1 Posted on 15.4.06 0051.18
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You figure it out. KINGS MAGIC NUMBER IS TWOOOOOOOOOO
EAST:                  15th 16th 17th 18th 19th
1. Detroit 63-16 vNYK @MIL vWAS
2. Miami 52-27 vCHI @ATL @BOS
3. New Jersey 48-31 vBOS @PHI vNYK
4. Cleveland 48-31 @WAS @BOS vATL
5. Indiana 39-40 @CHA @TOR vORL
6. Milwaukee 39-40 vATL vDET @WAS
7. Washington 39-40 vCLE vMIL @DET
8. Chicago 38-41 @MIA @ORL vTOR
Philadelphia 37-42 @ORL vNJ @CHA
Orlando 35-44 vPHI vCHI @IND

WEST: 15th 16th 17th 18th 19th
1. San Antonio 60-19 @MIN vUT @HOU
4. Dallas 59-21 vUT vLAC
2. Phoenix 52-27 @LAL vNOK @POR
3. Denver 44-35 vSAC vHOU @SEA
5. Memphis 46-33 @HOU vLAC @MIN
6. Clippers 46-33 vSEA @MEM @DAL
7. Lakers 43-37 vPHX vNOK
8. Sacramento 41-38 @DEN vNOK vSEA
Utah 40-39 @DAL @SA vGS
NO/Oklahoma City 38-41 @SAC @PHX @LAL


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#2 Posted on 15.4.06 0541.30
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How the hell did the Pacers rise to the fifth seed in the Eastern Conference all of a sudden?

And how the hell did we do that when the best record we can possibly get this year will be 42-40?
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#3 Posted on 15.4.06 0755.40
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    How the hell did the Pacers rise to the fifth seed in the Eastern Conference all of a sudden?

    And how the hell did we do that when the best record we can possibly get this year will be 42-40?


Psst...the Eastern Conference SUCKS.
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#4 Posted on 17.4.06 0828.12
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    Originally posted by Gugs
    Psst...the Eastern Conference, besides the Pistons and Heat, SUCKS.


Fixed.
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#5 Posted on 17.4.06 0841.30
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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
      Originally posted by Gugs
      Psst...the Eastern Conference, besides the Pistons and Heat, SUCKS.


    Fixed.






The Nets are going to win around 50 and probably be a dangerous second round opponent for the Heat, so they should be considered above the rest of the flotsam and jetsam that is the Eastern Conference (LeBron and the LeBron'ettes will be judged by the McGrady Rule: Win a playoff series before getting any respect). Pistons get what amounts to a double-bye before playing the survivor of the Heat/Nets series, so all they really need now is for the Spurs to either get picked off out West or play 2 very tough series, and the Pistons will have a cake-walk to the title. If the Spurs come out of the West with ease, it will be a pick 'em 7 game series in the Finals.
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#6 Posted on 17.4.06 1036.32
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BOXSCORE OF THE DAY
             1  2  3  4 Total
Seattle 38 29 33 14 - 114
LA Clippers 27 24 23 24 - 98

Seattle
Player Min FG-A 3PF-A FT-A Reb-O Ast Stl TO Blk PF-T Pts
Lewis 28 4-9 1-3 6-6 3-1 5 3 2 0 2-0 15
Wilcox 32 4-7 0-0 1-3 8-0 1 1 1 2 1-0 9
Petro 22 4-6 0-0 2-2 3-1 0 0 1 1 4-0 10
Allen 30 7-15 4-8 3-3 7-0 6 2 1 0 2-0 21
Ridnour 27 7-11 1-2 2-3 1-0 7 0 1 1 1-0 17
Collison 24 8-9 0-0 3-4 5-2 3 0 0 0 2-0 19
Watson 24 3-8 1-3 2-4 4-2 5 2 2 1 2-0 9
Moore 8 2-2 0-0 1-1 1-0 0 0 0 1 1-0 5
Wilkins 19 1-3 0-0 4-6 2-0 1 0 0 0 1-0 6
Felix 8 0-3 0-0 1-2 2-1 0 1 2 0 3-0 1
Wilks 13 0-1 0-0 2-4 0-0 1 1 2 0 1-0 2
Fortson DNP - Injured
Swift DNP - Coach's Decision
Team Totals 40-74 7-16 27-38 36-7 29 10 12 6 20-1 114
.541 .438 .711
Team Reb: 9
Total TO: 0 (16 pts)

LA Clippers
Player Min FG-A 3PF-A FT-A Reb-O Ast Stl TO Blk PF-T Pts
Singleton 23 1-2 0-1 0-0 3-1 1 1 2 1 3-0 2
Brand 26 7-13 0-0 8-9 7-4 1 0 3 2 2-0 22
Rebraca 23 2-5 0-0 3-4 3-1 0 0 1 0 1-0 7
Ross 13 2-4 0-0 1-2 2-0 1 1 1 1 1-0 5
Cassell 24 4-12 0-0 4-4 7-2 7 1 1 0 2-0 12
Radmanovic 21 3-10 2-4 0-1 1-1 4 1 1 0 4-0 8
Livingston 29 7-9 0-0 4-4 2-2 3 1 0 0 3-0 18
Ewing 19 1-4 0-0 1-2 0-0 2 1 1 0 3-0 3
Baker 15 1-3 0-0 3-4 5-0 2 1 2 1 1-0 5
N`Dong 18 1-5 0-0 0-0 7-2 3 0 2 0 2-0 2
McCarty 13 5-8 1-3 1-2 3-1 1 0 2 0 1-0 12
Korolev 10 1-2 0-0 0-0 3-1 1 0 0 0 0-0 2
Maggette DNP - Injured
Mobley DNP - Injured
Kaman DNP - Injured
Team Totals 35-77 3-8 25-32 43-15 26 7 16 5 23-0 98
.455 .375 .781
Team Reb: 6
Total TO: 0 (17 pts)


That "Baker 15 1-3..." is VIN EFFING BAKER. Does David Stern think it MIGHT have been possible the Clips were tanking to improve their playoff situation?
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#7 Posted on 17.4.06 1115.46
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The current playoff structure isn't that bad but it does need to be altered b/c you can clearly see teams trying to fall into the #6 seed.

If it were me, I'd do two things:
(1) winning your division only guarantees you a spot in the playoffs but NOT a top three seed;
and
(2) if you have a losing record, you don't get in unless you win your division.

Maybe (2) is a bit much seeing as how there's only 4 teams in the East with winning records - but if you put (1) in effect you get this playoff picture in the West (as of now) since the East wouldn't change anyway:

(1) Spurs v. (8) Kings
(4) Grizzlies v. (5) Clippers
(3) Suns v. (6) Nuggets
(2) Mavs v. (7) Lakers

Those matchups look much better, IMO.
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#8 Posted on 17.4.06 1134.38
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Does David Stern think it MIGHT have been possible the Clips were tanking to improve their playoff situation?
Just be glad they were nice enough to hand you guys a W.

Besides, arent the Clipper already locked into #6 to face the #3 Nuggets? And even if they did manage to slip down to #7, they'd end up facing the Suns instead, and I cant imagine they prefer to face the Suns over the Nuggets.

SIDE NOTE: Portland is 21-59? What the hell happened there?!?!

FINAL THOUGHT: Darius Miles is a jackass.

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#9 Posted on 17.4.06 1216.53
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    Originally posted by Kawshen
    The current playoff structure isn't that bad but it does need to be altered b/c you can clearly see teams trying to fall into the #6 seed.

    If it were me, I'd do two things:
    (1) winning your division only guarantees you a spot in the playoffs but NOT a top three seed;
    and
    (2) if you have a losing record, you don't get in unless you win your division.

    Maybe (2) is a bit much seeing as how there's only 4 teams in the East with winning records - but if you put (1) in effect you get this playoff picture in the West (as of now) since the East wouldn't change anyway:

    (1) Spurs v. (8) Kings
    (4) Grizzlies v. (5) Clippers
    (3) Suns v. (6) Nuggets
    (2) Mavs v. (7) Lakers

    Those matchups look much better, IMO.


How about the top 16 teams get in period and seeded as such period? Never happen but would be interesting.
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#10 Posted on 17.4.06 1453.45
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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Does David Stern think it MIGHT have been possible the Clips were tanking to improve their playoff situation?
    Just be glad they were nice enough to hand you guys a W.

    Besides, arent the Clipper already locked into #6 to face the #3 Nuggets? And even if they did manage to slip down to #7, they'd end up facing the Suns instead, and I cant imagine they prefer to face the Suns over the Nuggets.

    SIDE NOTE: Portland is 21-59? What the hell happened there?!?!

    FINAL THOUGHT: Darius Miles is a jackass.

    (GO LAKERS!)






The tankjob by the Clippers (the Clippers tanking games to influence playoff seedings is the 5th sign of the apocolypse) isn't for going from 6 to 7, it is to stay at 6 or 7 and avoid getting stuck as 5 where you get the Mavericks in Round 1, and the reward for winning that series in all probability is the Spurs in Round 2. Being in a 4-sum with the Lakers, Suns and Nuggets is much more preferable than being with the Mavericks, Spurs, Kings.
As for the put all 16 playoff teams together: Travel costs. A situation could arise where a west coast team has to play four 7 Game series against east coast teams, or vice versa. They went 2-3-2 to minimize travel in the Finals, I doubt they really want to get in a situation where the Sonics have to play Miami, Atlanta, Philly, Boston in consecutive rounds (teams chosen because those are damn long trips for Seattle).
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#11 Posted on 19.4.06 1026.47
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what to watch: eastern conference tiebrakers

Tonight's games:
Toronto vs Chicago
Orlando vs Indiana
Detroit vs Washington

(all wrong - go down two posts, do not collect $200)

(edited by thecubsfan on 19.4.06 1310)
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#12 Posted on 19.4.06 1050.21
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I have to assume you've gotten it wrong, since I've already read one story that says the Wizards can finish "no worse than seventh" but you don't even have that in your list.

Here's the official tiebreaker basis (nba.com). If three teams are involved, I don't think they do it the way you do it.

Fortunately it's a bit easier in the West, where it's up to the Lakers to decide if they want to win and face the Suns at #7, or lose and face the Spurs at #8, ceding #7 to the Kings. (The Hornets will attempt to influence the outcome of the game as well, I'm sure. ;-) )

1 through 6 are set with Memphis taking #5 and the Clippers at #6 and San Antonio clinching the Southwest AND the West, settling Dallas in at #4.

(edited by CRZ on 19.4.06 1052)
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#13 Posted on 19.4.06 1305.34
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My problem is this line from the three way ties.


    If applicable, division champions must be determined first.


Does that only affect the champion of the division overall, or the champion of the division from the teams included (as the NFL does)? If the Wiz can be 7th, it's the former. Either it's not clear or I'm reading way too much into it.

There's only one situation where the Wizards are in a three way tie; they lose, Bulls win, Pacers win. Reading it the other way, the Bulls and Wizards swap spots in that situation. I think?

Edit:: ESPN.com posted the breakdown. They don't have the Wizards 7th in any situation, so it's safe to say there's a bit of confusion.

(edited by thecubsfan on 19.4.06 1314)
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#14 Posted on 19.4.06 1316.20
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All I know is the Cavs are playing either the Bulls or Wizards. I really don't know which I'd rather have, but I'm leaning toward the Bulls.
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#15 Posted on 19.4.06 1424.23
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All I know is that Miami owns the Wizards and has some matchup issues with Chicago, up to and including the fact that Wade somehow isn't his normal Wade-like self versus the Bulls. So I know who I'd rather have in that #7 slot.

The worst case scenario would be Indiana, because in spite of everything that's gone on there the last two years, the Pacers have absolutely had Miami's number.
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#16 Posted on 19.4.06 1442.11
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MORE PRETTY TABLES (assuming ESPN is correct and I haven't made any mistakes (good luck with that)):

EDIT: ESPN was wrong - they have corrected their table (but don't know if they mentioned it on their page, ha ha)

WASH WIN: 5
WASH
LOSS
CHI
WIN
CHI
LOSS
INDY
WIN
7
5
INDY
LOSS
6
CHI
WIN
WASH
WIN
WASH
LOSS
INDY
WIN
7
5
INDY
LOSS
6
CHI LOSS: 8
INDY
CHI
WIN
CHI
LOSS
INDY
WIN
6
INDY
LOSS
8
7
MILCHI
WIN
CHI
LOSS
IND
WIN
8
7
IND
LOSS
7
6


(edited by CRZ on 19.4.06 1453)


(edited by CRZ on 19.4.06 1536)
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#17 Posted on 19.4.06 1525.30
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I can't vouch for anything but the Bucks, but that's how they're reporting it here, also.
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#18 Posted on 19.4.06 1533.59
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FIXED (again): http://the-w.com/thread.php/id=29478&page=#331809
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#19 Posted on 20.4.06 0721.41
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Final standings

Congrats to Denver, they've added a division title to their franchise but will not have home court advantage anywhere in the West playoffs (lost season series 3-1 to Kings) and the Finals unless several upsets happen in the East. Kawshen's first idea earlier in the thread is looking better and better.

(edited by JALman on 20.4.06 0823)
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#20 Posted on 20.4.06 0845.31
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    Originally posted by JALman
    Kawshen's first idea earlier in the thread is looking better and better.


I think they should just reseed the top four teams by record and give them all home court advantage in the first round, which I think is a reasonable reward for winning a division. If you're not going to give the division winners ANYTHING why even have divisions in the first place? (Not that I'd object to get rid of the divisions altogether, myself.)

Would anyone REALLY be any more or less excited for the playoffs if these were the matchups? (Besides Clipper fans, who are just happy to have playoff games anyway.)

EAST
(1) DET- (8) MIL
(2) MIA - (7) CHI
(3) CLE - (6) IND
(4) NJ - (5) WAS

WEST
(1) SA - (8) SAC
(2) DAL - (7) LAL
(3) PHX - (6) LAC
(4) DEN - (5) MEM (Denver with home court advantage.)
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