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#1 Posted on 9.7.06 1908.45
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With the All-Star Break just about upon us, it seems like a good time to consider who would be deserving of the major awards at this point. Here's how I see it.

NL

MVP: Albert Pujols, Cardinals
CY : Bronson Arroyo, Reds (Could be Webb, they're very close, but I give the nod to Arroyo because he's kept the Reds in the hunt, and because he pitches in a tough park. Glavine is way behind both in ERA.)
ROY: Dan Uggla, Marlins
CBP: Nomar Garciaparra, Dodgers
MGR: Joe Girardi, Marlins

AL:

MVP: David Ortiz, Red Sox (This is the one race that really has me unsure. Ortiz has the best power numbers, but Travis Hafner is close behind and has a much better average. Then again, his team is out of it. Alex Rios has the best claim to being the guy keeping a team in it, but his numbers aren't that good. Heck, you could make a case for Liriano.)
CY : Francisco Liriano, Twins
ROY: Francisco Liriano, Twins
CBP: Mike Lowell, Red Sox
MGR: Jim Leyland, Tigers


If anyone's scratching their heads, "CBP" is "Comeback Player".
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#2 Posted on 9.7.06 1931.12
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Papelbon's the rookie of the year, IMO. Then again, he's also my Cy Young and MVP, so I may be biased.
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#3 Posted on 9.7.06 1943.57
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    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    MGR: Joe Girardi, Marlins


CURRENT NL EAST STANDINGS:

NY METS 53-36
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES 40-47
ATLANTA BRAVES 40-49
FLORIDA MARLINS 38-48
WASHINGTON NATIONALS 38-52

The Marlins are the second-worst team in baseball's worst division. Considering only the Mets in the entire National League right now look like a threat to the AL's Big Four, I think there's only one choice for this award thus far.

Some other midseason thoughts:

If there's any doubt regarding Albert Pujols' value to the Cardinals, look at the horrible slump they entered when he was out. An eight-game losing streak allowed the Reds and even Houston and Milwaukee to scratch back into the NL Central race. He was on a TEAR before the injury, and even with those three weeks out, he's easily the class of the National League. Injuries to Scott Rolen and a season-long slump for Jim Edmonds weren't even enough to derail this team, who before Pujols got hurt were staying neck-and-neck(-and-neck-and-neck) with the Mets, Tigers and White Sox in the race for best record in baseball.

There's not really anything I can say about the Tigers that hasn't been said, so I'm just going to leave it at "wow, what a story."

I like and respect Nomar Garciapara, and I am enjoying seeing him on this tear. I felt bad for him last year, not just because he struggled, but also because he actually had to endure the humiliation of calling himself a Cub. Talk about a blow to your self-respect.

Speaking of the Cubbies...oh I do enjoy seeing them collapse. Dusty Baker will be and should be fired, but he is far from the only problem in that organization. The constant injuries to Wood and Prior are unfortunate (for Cubs fans), but beyond that...their players just suck? I don't know what to tell you, Chicagoites. At least...you're not from Pittsburgh.
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#4 Posted on 9.7.06 2113.23
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NL:
MVP: Albert Pujols, Cardinals. Their record without him speaks for this.
CY : Brad Penny, Dodgers. Arroyo's a very close second, but Penny's having an EXCELLENT year.
ROY: Dan Uggla, Marlins.
CBP: Nomar Garciaparra, Dodgers. Griffey comes in second.
MGR: Jerry Narron, Cincinatti. He's kept that team in contention despite a hitting roster that's mediocre at best. Off-season pitching moves certainly helped, but when he took over mid-season last year you saw an immediate difference and they've gone from being near the bottom of the division last year to contending this year.

AL:
MVP: David Ortiz, Red Sox. Hafner's close, but I think Thome might be closer. He's keeping the White Sox in it with the Tigers, who seem unstoppable this year.
CY : Francisco Liriano, Twins
ROY: Jon Papelbon, Red Sox. Liriano's been good, but Papelbon's been EXCELLENT in a very high-pressure position for a rookie to be thrown into (that of a closer for the second biggest market in baseball).
CBP: Mike Lowell, Red Sox.
MGR: Jim Leyland, Tigers.


And as always, I have to note that we're not YET at the All-Star Break, and many of these choices could still very well have horrific collapses that make any picks we make look ridiculous.
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#5 Posted on 9.7.06 2234.06
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NATIONAL LEAGUE

MVP: David Wright and Jose Reyes ... I am blessed to have BOTH of these guys in my fantasy keeper league - and to the surprise of hopefully nobody, I am in first place. I despise the Mets with a passion, but replace these two guys with a regular 3rd and SS, and the Mets lose about 7-8 additional games to this point at LEAST. (Yes, dual champs is lame, but whatever....)

CY YOUNG: Tommy Glavine, but he won't keep it up. What's he now, 40 years old? And with that absolutely stellar record, ERA, and a surprising number of Ks considering what kind of pitcher he is - he's my choice here. Winner at the end of the year will likely be Chris CAPtainlUoAlbaNO, Chris Young, or Carlos Zambrano. I'm no Brandon Webb lover, so he gets no love!

ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: Ryan Zimmerman. If you've watched the Nationals play at all this year, you'd see some absolutely brilliant flashes of leather on the hot corner - as well as a bat that's gonna finish with about 20-25 home runs, 100 RBIs, 90 runs scored, a .300 avg, and 15 stolen bases. I'd say that's good enough for a top 10 MVP vote in some seasons, let alone ROY.

ROLAIDS RELIEF MAN: Flash Gordon continues to get the job done in Philadelphia .... Will this man ever run out of steam?

MANAGER OF THE YEAR: I don't know, everyone in the National League sucks. Seriously, I figured my Braves were DONE this year, but apparently we're like 6 games off the wild card despite being 9 under .500. I can't give it to the Mets because they paid out Yankee-esque money for that roster - and any knucklehead could have that team in first place. I want to say Jerry Narron - but they've dropped like 8 out of 10 and look like the Reds of old. Joe Girardi, just because they SHOULD be worse than the Royals, but are in the Wild Card Hunt. The Royals would be too if they were in the NL - but that's a whole 'nother story. Ask me again at the end of the season.


AMERICAN LEAGUE

MVP: Francisco Liriano, for keeping the Twins alive in their NL Central race. Could you imagine where they'd be if they were still having to trot out the loser staff they were playing at the start of the year? (They are ... Carlos Silva still has a job.) Oh, well, regardless of that - at least Liriano fixes ONE hole, and when you're guaranteed a win every 5 days on the strength of a rookie's arm, you're in good hands.

CY YOUNG: Jonathan Papelbon. I suspect he loses this, as I think hitters will figure him out. (Jermaine Dye knew EXACTLY what was coming this afternoon and crushed it) But for now, he's the guy. Yes, the MVP is a pitcher but he's not the best pitcher? Well, yeah, because Papelbon means less to the big picture in Boston, but he's still the best in the game, but only by the slimest of margins.

ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: Jonathan Papelbon for now. Liriano by end of year.

ROLAIDS RELIEF MAN: Jonathan Papelbon.

MANAGER OF THE YEAR: Does anyone OTHER than Jimmy Leyland even come CLOSE to getting consideration at this point? If you can think of someone else to vote for, you're nuts.
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#6 Posted on 9.7.06 2236.50
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    If there's any doubt regarding Albert Pujols' value to the Cardinals, look at the horrible slump they entered when he was out. An eight-game losing streak allowed the Reds and even Houston and Milwaukee to scratch back into the NL Central race. He was on a TEAR before the injury, and even with those three weeks out, he's easily the class of the National League. Injuries to Scott Rolen and a season-long slump for Jim Edmonds weren't even enough to derail this team, who before Pujols got hurt were staying neck-and-neck(-and-neck-and-neck) with the Mets, Tigers and White Sox in the race for best record in baseball.


Not that Pujols isn't Mr. MVP, but his absence actually helped the offense. The went 8-7 without him (a lot better than they fared when he came back - he played the last six of that losing streak) and though I don't have the numbers, the team's runs per game went up when he left (from like 5.1 to 5.5, so not a huge jump.) Basically, Rolen and everyone else (to a lesser degree) stepped up, and then slinked back down when he returned.

In the meantime, the pitching imploded.
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#7 Posted on 9.7.06 2244.15
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan


    CURRENT NL EAST STANDINGS:

    NY METS 53-36
    PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES 40-47
    ATLANTA BRAVES 40-49
    FLORIDA MARLINS 38-48
    WASHINGTON NATIONALS 38-52

    The Marlins are the second-worst team in baseball's worst division.


Thing is the Marlins were 18 - 7 in the month of June, the best record in the NL. They're off to a bad start in July but they've had to play the Red Sox and Mets. They are only 7 games out of the Wild Card and pretty much the hottest team in the race. Uggla, Johnson, Willingham, Jacobs, and Hanley are all off to a start better than expected and are probably all in the top 7 in the ROY of the race along with Zimmerman and Fielder. Throw in Dontrelle, Cabrera and possibly Yusmeiro Petit and Hermida and the fact that none of the Wild Card teams look particularly good and I don't see any reason why the Marlins can't win the Wild Card. Especially since The West and Central teams will beat up on each other while the Marlins will be playing the sucky East. And if a team that was pretty much unanimous last place team threatens to win the Wild Card then I think their manager is Manager of the Year worthy. I'm not ready to give it to him yet, but I won't be surprised if he deserves it at the end of the season.

    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    If there's any doubt regarding Albert Pujols' value to the Cardinals, look at the horrible slump they entered when he was out. An eight-game losing streak allowed the Reds and even Houston and Milwaukee to scratch back into the NL Central race.


Incorrect. The Cardinals actually had WINNING record without Pujols, they were 8 - 7. The 8 game losing streak was mostly with Pujols in the lineup, in fact they are only 5 - 11 since he came back.

I'd say Papelbon is the AL Rookie of the Year so far, but if Liriano keeps it up he should be by the end of the year. I like Zimmerman for the NL Rookie of the Year, but Uggla is definitely in it too.

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#8 Posted on 9.7.06 2259.19
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    The Marlins are the second-worst team in baseball's worst division. Considering only the Mets in the entire National League right now look like a threat to the AL's Big Four, I think there's only one choice for this award thus far.



But they're only 1 1/2 games out of second place. This is a team with a payroll of about $18M which was expected to win about 55-60 games and finish last in the division by a mile. If they finish second or third and win 72+ games, I'd give consideration to Girardi as manager of the year.

anyway...

NL:

MVP - Albert Pujols, STL. If he didn't miss that time it could have been a historic season. Far and away the best player in baseball right now.

MGR - Jerry Narron, CIN. Reds have been slipping lately, but the rest of the Wild Card competition is mediocre at best so they should be in the thick of things for the rest of the season.

CBP - Nomah Garciaparra, LAD. Fantastic season.

CY - Brandon Webb, ARZ. Leading the league in ERA and has been even more dominant if you exclude the interleague starts (which you can't but still...)

ROY - Dan Uggla, FLA. Could be Prince Fielder or Ryan Zimmerman by the end of the season.

AL:

MVP - Travis Hafner, CLE. Leads the league in OPS, OBP, and SLG. HR and RBI aren't enough to swing it in Ortiz' favor.

CY - Francisco Liriano, MIN. Unhittable at 10-1, 1.83. I'd expect it to be a three man race between Liriano, Santana, and Halladay at the end of the season.

ROY - Liriano.

MGR - Jim Leyland, DET. This one reminds me of when the Marlins hired Jack Mckeon and won the World Series in some ways.

CBP - Mike Lowell, BOS.
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#9 Posted on 9.7.06 2306.46
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AL MVP: Thome, I guess
AL Cy Young: I still think Roy Halladay will have the best season when all is said and done, but for just the first half, it's Liriano
AL Rookie of the Year: Papelbon or Liriano should tie this, by all rights
AL Relief Man: Forget Papelbon...I'll take BJ Ryan, who's only allowed four runs all year and had nine more Ks than Paps.
AL Manager: Jim Leyland, gotta be


NL MVP: Hard to argue with Pujols, though David Wright will make a good showing
NL Cy Young: Hmm...uh....Chris Young?
NL Rookie of the Year: Uggla or Zimmerman
NL Relief Man: Flash Gordon
NL Manager: Willie Randolph
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#10 Posted on 9.7.06 2309.15
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I can only say two things:

1. Kinda off topic, but I hate hate hate hate hate the DH. It's stupid. And David Ortiz, while an amazing batter, not actually playing in the field(or when he does sucking HUGE), bothers the hell out of me when it comes to award voting. I know it's silly but still.

2. As was mentioned, had Pujols not missed any time he might have been in line for the best season ever. Might not have too, but he's clearly the best player in the NL. MVP might be a slightly different discussion, but I would say the Cards are a .500 team without Pujols and despite the pitching problems since his return, are a division leader with him.

Oh and this just in, the Cardinals still pwn Brad Lidge.
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#11 Posted on 9.7.06 2312.56
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    Originally posted by BigSteve
    MVP - Travis Hafner, CLE. Leads the league in OPS, OBP, and SLG. HR and RBI aren't enough to swing it in Ortiz' favor.



He leads OBP and SLG AND OPS? Nothing like getting 3 cats for the price of 2
I don't think you can dismiss 6 HR and 10 RBI that easily, but I can see justification for any one of Thome, Haffner or Ortiz at the moment.
IF the voters anti-DH trend continues, who gets it then?
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#12 Posted on 10.7.06 0053.13
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National League

MVP: Albert Pujols (Cardinals)
Cy Young: Brandon Webb (Arizona)
Rookie of the Year: Ryan Zimmerman (Washington)
Comeback Player: Nomar Garciaparra (Los Angeles)
Manager: Phil Garner (Houston)

Pujols is a no-brainer. Even after being out for weeks, he came back and picked up right where he left off. Webb is leading the current crop of pitchers, even though it looks like Arizona's gonna stay in the cellar. Zimmerman's been huge for the Nats and will be a big star. Nomar's been a godsend to the Dodgers, which is a huge relief to the many (including myself) who thought he was way past his prime. Phil Garner gets it for me, because the Astros are still right in the thick of things in spite of everything. Although if St. Louis hadn't fallen apart near the end of the first half, I would have given this one to Tony LaRussa.

American League

MVP: David Ortiz (Boston)
Cy Young: Roy Halladay (Toronto)
Rookie of the Year: Francisco Liriano (Minnesota)
Comeback Player: Jim Thome (Chicago)
Manager: Jim Leyland (Detroit)

Boston wouldn't be where they are without Ortiz and his numbers. Halladay's been amazing in keeping Toronto right in the hunt for the AL East. I give RoY to Liriano who, combined with Santana, is going to be part of a VERY sick one-two combo. Although I give honorable mention to the Angels' Jered Weaver, who is quietly putting up a monster rookie campaign himself. Thome had an awful year last year, but looks to put up 50 HR this year. He and Konerko are rivaling Ortiz/Ramirez as baseball's most feared duo. Something is seriously wrong if Jim Leyland doesn't get Manager of the Year at the end of this season. His work with the Tigers is nothing short of miraculous.

(edited by It's False on 9.7.06 2256)
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#13 Posted on 10.7.06 0110.18
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    Originally posted by Quezzy


      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      If there's any doubt regarding Albert Pujols' value to the Cardinals, look at the horrible slump they entered when he was out. An eight-game losing streak allowed the Reds and even Houston and Milwaukee to scratch back into the NL Central race.


    Incorrect. The Cardinals actually had WINNING record without Pujols, they were 8 - 7. The 8 game losing streak was mostly with Pujols in the lineup, in fact they are only 5 - 11 since he came back.


So, the fact that they were 34-20 when he got hurt and 8-7 without him means they're not worse with him out of the lineup?

And started winning when he got hurt? They lost four of their first five after he went down.

I don't care what the lineup's numbers were before or after June 3. Tha fact is, plain and simple, Pujols got hurt and the team immediately was not as good. And the portion of the eight-game skid he was there for? They were only playing the two best teams in baseball (Det and CHW), after the man had just missed 15 games. Maybe he should be wearing a giant "S" on his chest, but he's not a god (yet).


    Not that Pujols isn't Mr. MVP, but his absence actually helped the offense. The went 8-7 without him (a lot better than they fared when he came back - he played the last six of that losing streak) and though I don't have the numbers, the team's runs per game went up when he left (from like 5.1 to 5.5, so not a huge jump.) Basically, Rolen and everyone else (to a lesser degree) stepped up, and then slinked back down when he returned.

    In the meantime, the pitching imploded.


The Cards gave up about 6.5 runs/game in Pujols' absence, but take away the 33-runs-in-two-days humiliation from the White Sox, and that number drops to five. On the year, they're giving up 4.8 runs/game. So there was a slight jump there, but not much.

And in those seven losses, four were by one or two runs, games where Pujols' bat tends to make a big difference for them. The man comes up with big hit after big hit for this team.

I don't really understand you guys' argument here. Pujols is the MVP of the NL, I don't really think there's any debate. And winning record or not, the fact is the team performed worse this year without him than with him thus far. So please make a point.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 10.7.06 0229)
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#14 Posted on 10.7.06 0140.15
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    So, the fact that they were 34-20 when he got hurt and 8-7 without him means they're not worse with him out of the lineup?


Hmm, I don't think anybody said that the Cards were better without Pujols, I know I didn't. Just that your facts were wrong, which they were.

I don't know who you are talking to about Pujols not being the MVP, I didn't see anyone who said he wasn't. Every single person has said Pujols in MVP and I agree. However, I wouldn't call it a no brainer either. David Wright has been the anchor of the offense that is easily winning the NL. A team whose pitching is in shambles and has to rely on their offense. Sure there's Beltran and Delgado, but both have been really cold at times and injured at other times. Wright is the one that is always in the lineup and always consistent. Plus he's as clutch as anyone in baseball as he has more walk off hits than Big Papi, supposedly the most clutch player in baseball. And he's done it in pressure situations getting walkoff hits against both the Yankees and Braves.

(edited by Quezzy on 9.7.06 2348)
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#15 Posted on 10.7.06 0153.25
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      So, the fact that they were 34-20 when he got hurt and 8-7 without him means they're not worse with him out of the lineup?


    Hmm, I don't think anybody said that the Cards were better without Pujols, I know I didn't. Just that your facts were wrong, which they were.

    I don't know who you are talking to about Pujols not being the MVP, I didn't see anyone who said he wasn't. Every single person has said Pujols in MVP and I agree. However, I wouldn't call it a no brainer either. David Wright has been the anchor of the offense that is easily winning the NL. A team whose pitching is in shambles and has to rely on their offense. Sure there's Beltran and Delgado, but both have been really cold at times and injured at other times. Wright is the one that is always in the lineup and always consistent. Plus he's as clutch as anyone in baseball as he has more walk off hits than Big Papi, supposedly the most clutch player in baseball. And he's done it in pressure situations getting walkoff hits against both the Yankees and Braves.

    (edited by Quezzy on 9.7.06 2348)


Considering the only "fact" I offered in my original post on this was that they entered a slump when he got hurt - which they did - I still don't know what you're talking about. I guess if you didn't know otherwise you might think I was saying he was out for the whole eight-game skid, but I figured anyone who cared enough would know this wasn't the case, plus it's not like the 15 games off stops affecting him the second he steps back onto the field. I didn't really get detailed originally because I didn't think this would turn into any kind of dispute, but you offered evidence to support my claim that the Cards struggled without Pujols before I did. Yes they had a winning record without him, but that's because they're a damn good team. They still performed worse without him. So you agree with me, but I'm wrong, I guess? Again, I really don't understand what you're saying. I guess that means you win the argument?

And yes David Wright is having a great year, but again, the slump the Cardinals entered - I don't know what else you call hovering around .500 for a three-week span after two-plus months of winning nearly two of every three games - plus Pujols' monster season even with the time off means I think he gets the nod.

But now I'm just repeating myself.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 10.7.06 0420)
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#16 Posted on 10.7.06 0801.10
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    Originally posted by BigSteve
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      The Marlins are the second-worst team in baseball's worst division. Considering only the Mets in the entire National League right now look like a threat to the AL's Big Four, I think there's only one choice for this award thus far.



    But they're only 1 1/2 games out of second place. This is a team with a payroll of about $18M which was expected to win about 55-60 games and finish last in the division by a mile. If they finish second or third and win 72+ games, I'd give consideration to Girardi as manager of the year.

    anyway...

    NL:

    MVP - Albert Pujols, STL. If he didn't miss that time it could have been a historic season. Far and away the best player in baseball right now.

    MGR - Jerry Narron, CIN. Reds have been slipping lately, but the rest of the Wild Card competition is mediocre at best so they should be in the thick of things for the rest of the season.

    CBP - Nomah Garciaparra, LAD. Fantastic season.

    CY - Brandon Webb, ARZ. Leading the league in ERA and has been even more dominant if you exclude the interleague starts (which you can't but still...)

    ROY - Dan Uggla, FLA. Could be Prince Fielder or Ryan Zimmerman by the end of the season.

    AL:

    MVP - Travis Hafner, CLE. Leads the league in OPS, OBP, and SLG. HR and RBI aren't enough to swing it in Ortiz' favor.

    CY - Francisco Liriano, MIN. Unhittable at 10-1, 1.83. I'd expect it to be a three man race between Liriano, Santana, and Halladay at the end of the season.

    ROY - Liriano.

    MGR - Jim Leyland, DET. This one reminds me of when the Marlins hired Jack Mckeon and won the World Series in some ways.

    CBP - Mike Lowell, BOS.


This is probably the most accurate set of selections so far. In fact, if there was an actual official voting for mid year awards, this is probably what the results would look like. That being said. I just can't agree with Ortiz being voted MVP. I have never been a proponent of a DH being more valuable to a team than a great all-around player. A DH baisically give his team a total of maybe 15 minutes to 20 minutes of playing time per 2 hour and some-odd minute game, as opposed to a fielder/batter who plays over half the game. Plus, Edgar Martinez never won the MVP, and he was arguably the best DH ever. Plus, Ortiz isn't even batting .300, and his OBP is under .400! Plus, check this out:
Ortiz:
AVG .278 | HR 31 | RBI 87 | OBP .388 | SLG .609

Jim Thome
AVG .298 | HR 30 | RBI 77 | OBP .414 | SLG .651

Thome has a much higher BA, OBP, and slugging %. He only has one fewer HR. The only category Ortiz has any kind of significant edge in is RBI, and thats probably more because Ortiz played in 86 games so far this season to Thome's 82. No-one is mentioning Thome in any serious MVP discussion, despite the fact that he means just as much to the Wsox offense as Ortiz does to the Rsox line up.
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#17 Posted on 10.7.06 0932.41
Reposted on: 10.7.13 0932.49
I have to disagree with you guys who say that a DH can't be the MVP. Disregard for a moment whether he's the best choice. Let's assume he is, for the sake of argument. Would you make Ortiz the MVP if he was a below-average fielding 1st basemen? The worst fielding 1st baseman in the league? If yes, then I don't see what difference it makes that he doesn't play the field. If no, then you're saying you won't pick Ortiz because of his bad fielding, which at least I can understand. But not making him MVP just because his team has better players in the field at every position? I can't follow that.

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#18 Posted on 10.7.06 1031.21
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NL
MVP: Pujols. Best player in the game.
Cy Young: Webb. As for Arroyo, he's down to 9-6.
Manager of the Year: (tie)Jim Tracy and Dusty Baker. It takes great leadership to prevent your team from being involved in the National League playoff race.
ROY: Zimmerman. Just for hitting the walk-off against the Yankees he gets it from me.
Comeback Player: Grudgingly Garciaparra, however, have faith that he'll injure himself again soon.

AL
MVP: Ortiz in a close race over Thome. Has been in the top 5 in voting the last 3 seasons, this is the year he goes over the top.
Cy Young: Jose Contreras. Is he as good as Halladay, no. However, he doesn't lose. As for Santana, April does count, and his bad April helped put the Twins in the hole they won't climb out of.
Manager of the Year: Leyland.
ROY: Papelbon. He'll be in a pennant race down the stretch, Liriano won't. Also, Boston is dead in April if Papelbon isn't bailing them out of the 2-1/3-2 games they were playing when the offense was inept.
Comeback Player: Two man race between Thome and Halladay, but Halladay gets it for overcoming the broken leg from last year, and he needs some hardware if Contreras doesn't lose a game.
Special American League Award
Bust of the Year: 1988 Toronto Blue Jays. Oops, I mean 2006 Cleveland Indians. Simple mistake.
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#19 Posted on 10.7.06 1045.45
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    Originally posted by BigSteve
    MVP - Travis Hafner, CLE. Leads the league in OPS, OBP, and SLG. HR and RBI aren't enough to swing it in Ortiz' favor

Problem with this as I see it is the award is "Most Valuable Player" not "Player of the Year". Yes Pronk is having an awesome year. And where would Cleveland be without him? Exactly where they are right now, in 4th place and nearly 20 games out of first. As opposed to where would the Red Sox be without Ortiz or the White Sox without Thome this year. To me the only time you vote a guy who is on a losing team as MVP is when no one stands out on the top teams and a second division team's guy has a monster year, like Andre Dawson in 1987. But this year between Thome and Ortiz I think you have two guys who are putting up MVP numbers while actually having a tangible effect on keeping their team in the race.

My picks for the AL, since I don't watch a lot of the NL. And these are for the first half only:
MVP - Thome by a hair over Ortiz. Though as someone who watches the White Sox every game I would argue that Jermaine Dye has been even more valuable than Thome.
Cy Young - Contreras. Though if Liriano pitches a full second half the way he pitched the second quarter of the season as a starter, the award is his.
ROY - Papelbon. But again, if Liriano ends up going this way it's his award.
Comeback - I'm saying Thome here. The guy is injured most of last year, and is now on pace to put up 50+ HR.
Mgr - Leyland. He's done an awesome job up there. I like that Detroit team even though I root against them every day :)
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#20 Posted on 10.7.06 1133.18
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    Originally posted by i before e
    This is probably the most accurate set of selections so far.
How would you define accuracy in the way that you've deemed BigSteve's opinion "the most accurate"? I'd think accuracy of anyone's picks would only be deemed accurate after the World Series, when the official awards have been announced...

AL MVP - Manny Ramirez (Joe Mauer)
NL MVP - Albert Pujols (Nomar Garciaparra)

AL CY - Roy Halladay (Johann Santana)
NL CY - Brandon Webb (Brad Penny)

AL ROY - Francisco Liriano (Jonathan Papelbon)
NL ROY - Dan Uggla (Josh Johnson/Ryan Zimmerman)

AL MGR - Jim Leyland (Joe Torre/Ron Gardenhire)
NL MGR - Grady Little (Jerry Narron/Clint Hurdle)

AL CBP - Magglio Ordonez
NL CBP - Nomar Garciaparra

...and I should have known to drink all of that Aaron Small Kool-Aid with special Shawn Chacon artificial sweetener...
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