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#1 Posted on 12.7.03 1727.44
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Wow, what a fun movie. I was bit hestitant about the film, because I read the comic book, but the first few scenes with Connery as Quatermaine were awesome. He must be the first hardcore champion of the Victorian Age. The rest of the cast ruled as well and got enough screen time to show off their abilities and gadgets. Adding Tom and Dorian was actually a good idea. They both added elements to the story that wasn't there before which made the team seem more complete. The twist in the middle of the movie was cool as well.

I think they took all the best elements from the Marvel movies like the X-Men's team chemistry, Spidey's dialouge, Daredevil's darkness and the CGI stuff to make Hulk into a blow away film. Hyde was much cooler looking than Hulk and more depth as well. My friend turned to him during his fight scenes and said, "Man, this is what Hulk should have been." I agreed. A lot of good fun stuff. There is no great plot which is fine since its a popcorn movie for literature geeks.

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#2 Posted on 12.7.03 1739.50
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Sigh.

I was afraid to see it. And I was right.

Even if I hadn't read the comic, as someone with a BA in English, I would have disappointed the way the characters were bastardized, bowdlerized and written.

It's even more painful since the movie was written by Starman's James Robinson. I'd like to tell myself it was meddling by Connery and the director that caused so many of the faults.

I do think it was better than the movies most are comparing it to: Wild Wild West and The Avengers. Not exactly damning with faint praise though.
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#3 Posted on 13.7.03 1253.05
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    Originally posted by odessasteps


    It's even more painful since the movie was written by Starman's James Robinson.
    I do think it was better than the movies most are comparing it to: Wild Wild West and The Avengers. Not exactly damning with faint praise though.



I had no idea James Robinson was writing it. Thanks for the info.

I am interested in seeing the movie, despite not caring for the comic too much. I got thru the first 2 issues of the original series, and just didn't find enough to keep my interest up at the time. It's certainly getting better reviews than I thought it would given some of the problems between Mr. Connery and the Director I read about in Entertainment Weekly a loooong time ago.

Of course, I still need to see T3, and despite loathing Disney with a passion, I really want to see Pirates of the Carribbean.
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#4 Posted on 13.7.03 1501.46
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I hate Disney too, but Pirates was cool enough to warrant bending my "no Disney [proper] movies."
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#5 Posted on 13.7.03 1511.52
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Being a resident Da Uck I've yet to see "Pirates" in it's entirety, but through a...friend...I have born witness to some Jonny Depp goodness. I have to say, if his role's small enough to place it in the category, I think we may have an underdog fighter for Best Supporting Actor next year.

As for LXG, fuck it right in the ear. Connery's got real problems with letting his ego run wild over potentially fucking brilliant concepts.
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#6 Posted on 13.7.03 1538.47
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well I think we can all be happy in the long run that Sean Connery turned down the Matrix, Lord of the Rings, and probably some other high profile projects...however LXG had to suffer the price for it. Anyway, hopefully future comic book projects won't be so hacked together and more thought out than The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. And no disrespect to Stephen Norrington and James Dale Robinson, but your gaijin dog "WESTERNIZED" version of AKIRA project is just another bad disaster waiting to happen. But if they still end up doing it, at least they will know not to hire Sean Connery to play Kaneda .
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#7 Posted on 13.7.03 1730.10
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Wow I guess I am in the minority, but I thought it was a very fun movie. I read the books, and I thought they did a pretty good adaptation.
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#8 Posted on 13.7.03 1930.45
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I don't think you can really call this an adaptation. It veers so far from the source material so much to where its more or less loosely based on the graphic novel by Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill.

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Probably one of the only plot points that remained intact from the comic was that the real villain and mastermind ended up in a plot twist of being James Moriarty.

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#9 Posted on 13.7.03 2036.15
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Hmm didnt know that it was far off. I admit I only started reading at the 2nd volume, but I think that all the characters were done well, and I thought the story was interesting. I really enjoyed the movie, and would still recommend it.
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#10 Posted on 13.7.03 2113.00
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I read the GN of the original story and I thought they did a better job than expected. As soon as I heard there was no Mr. Bond and adding Dorian and Tom I thought disaster was near. In the end, I think for the big screen they needed to get right to the heart which was the team dynamic. The comic book kinda suffers from being too pretenous at times which fits since its the 1800s. Plus, having Sean Connery be a dope addict and bumble around for the first half of the movie instead of being the Indian Jones archetype Quatermain would be lame. They added the action part and left the talking for the book where it needs to be.

The problem I have with the criticism about LXG is that has nothing to do about the movie. It has more to do with the comic book than the movie. I just think that comic book movies tell their own stories, but should take a good amount of stuff from the comic books ie origins, villians and some plots. But, they should not be confined by it. It really is too seperate mediums, so you have to give the team some slack.

The other problem I have are the critics of the movie warning people away from this movie. I was watching Ebert and Roeper and they gave it thumps down. One of the reasons, that you couldn't drive the car in Venice, because there are no streets. If you have a team consisting of fictional characters from the 1800s fighting against Moriarty do you really care about Venice's streets? I can see people yelling about the acting or the plot, but to say I don't like this movie, because Venice doesn't have streets is just fucking retarded. An audience doesn't care as long as its entertained. Fuck have the shit in Chicago was made up, but it won best picture, so where is the consistancy? I am finding more as the summer goes on that the critics are really out to lunch on most of these films. Ebert and Roeper liked Hulk and Matrix where I found both of them a waste of time and money espically Hulk. Matrix was ok thanks to the fight scenes which went too long at times, but Hulk was the worst film I have seen since Pearl Habor.

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#11 Posted on 13.7.03 2201.04
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Okay, I friggin' LOVED this movie. Big, huge piles of fun. The only quibbles I can even come close to having are tech-related (the car was a bit TOO high-tech-y and modern, and the sub ran awfully clean for something that was probably steam or coal-driven) but that was more due to my own expectations of "Victorian Age high tech" than anything else, and were VERY minor.

I'd say Connery was by far the worst part of the movie, and even saying that... it still rocked the hizz-ay, as the kids today say.
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#12 Posted on 13.7.03 2210.13
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The Nautilus in LXG was SOLAR POWERED, not powered by steam or coal.
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#13 Posted on 13.7.03 2215.22
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    The Nautilus in LXG was SOLAR POWERED, not powered by steam or coal.


::forehead slap:: D'OH.
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#14 Posted on 14.7.03 1935.22
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    Originally posted by A Fan

    The problem I have with the criticism about LXG is that has nothing to do about the movie. It has more to do with the comic book than the movie. I just think that comic book movies tell their own stories, but should take a good amount of stuff from the comic books ie origins, villians and some plots. But, they should not be confined by it. It really is too seperate mediums, so you have to give the team some slack.

    The other problem I have are the critics of the movie warning people away from this movie. I was watching Ebert and Roeper and they gave it thumps down. One of the reasons, that you couldn't drive the car in Venice, because there are no streets. If you have a team consisting of fictional characters from the 1800s fighting against Moriarty do you really care about Venice's streets? I can see people yelling about the acting or the plot, but to say I don't like this movie, because Venice doesn't have streets is just fucking retarded. An audience doesn't care as long as its entertained. Fuck have the shit in Chicago was made up, but it won best picture, so where is the consistancy



I don't know if I said it here or not, but I would have disliked the execution of the movie, given its concept, even with the comic book. The characters were thinly-drawn and only served to be cursorally similar to their literary counterparts.

As for the stupidity of things like the Venetian canals, there's a line between suspension of disbelief and trampling on it. Even in a fantasy, there just should be some logic and consistency.

Chicago is a musical, whis is a genre grounded less in reality than science fiction. Nuff said.

As for critics, find some you like and listen to them. Don't read everyone.

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#15 Posted on 14.7.03 1937.06
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    Originally posted by odessasteps

      Originally posted by A Fan

      The problem I have with the criticism about LXG is that has nothing to do about the movie. It has more to do with the comic book than the movie. I just think that comic book movies tell their own stories, but should take a good amount of stuff from the comic books ie origins, villians and some plots. But, they should not be confined by it. It really is too seperate mediums, so you have to give the team some slack.

      The other problem I have are the critics of the movie warning people away from this movie. I was watching Ebert and Roeper and they gave it thumps down. One of the reasons, that you couldn't drive the car in Venice, because there are no streets. If you have a team consisting of fictional characters from the 1800s fighting against Moriarty do you really care about Venice's streets? I can see people yelling about the acting or the plot, but to say I don't like this movie, because Venice doesn't have streets is just fucking retarded. An audience doesn't care as long as its entertained. Fuck have the shit in Chicago was made up, but it won best picture, so where is the consistancy



    I don't know if I said it here or not, but I would have disliked the execution of the movie, given its concept, even with the comic book. The characters were thinly-drawn and only served to be cursorally similar to their literary counterparts.

    As for the stupidity of things like the Venetian canals, there's a line between suspension of disbelief and trampling on it. Even in a fantasy, there just should be some logic and consistency.

    Chicago is a musical, whis is a genre grounded less in reality than science fiction. Nuff said.

    As for critics, find some you like and listen to them. Don't read everyone.




Plus, most of Chicago takes place in dream sequences and fantasy scenes, so its not a fair example.
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#16 Posted on 14.7.03 2227.13
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Not all the scenes were fantasy and dreamscape in Chicago. I mean the scenes involving the city were really off the key. I though the execution was done well. If did by the book, you'd end up like Hulk were you spend more than half of the movie talking instead of doing. I like dialouge in my movies, but not the point where I start to fall asleep or look at my watch during the movie. I actually thought the characters in the movie were had more depth at times than the comic book. Quatermain/Sawyer's relationship I thought improved the group dynamic and gave more humanity to Alan than in the book. Plus, the Dorian/Mina parts gave her something to do than bitch about being leader like the comic books. The comic book is great, but it takes a bit to get things rolling, the movie did a nice job of doing that first and handling the characters second.

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#17 Posted on 14.7.03 2335.13
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    Originally posted by A Fan

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Well, I was going to ask what happened to your usual tagline gimmick, but I think attempting to quote your post answered my question.

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#18 Posted on 14.7.03 2336.58
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    Originally posted by odessasteps
    Chicago is a musical, whis is a genre grounded less in reality than science fiction. Nuff said.


...okay, you DO realize how silly that sounds, right? (:

Science fiction encompasses a ton more ground than merely futuristic-yet-grounded-in-hard-science stuff. League isn't straight sci-fi, it's comic book sci-fi, which tends to play a lot looser with science than, say, a Gibson novel.
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#19 Posted on 15.7.03 1020.02
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    Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
    Wow I guess I am in the minority, but I thought it was a very fun movie.
I agree with you here. I knew only the most general things about the movie, and I hadn't read any books or comics prior. Of all the people I know personally that have seen it, most of them also knew nothing about LXG before seeing the movie, and they all liked it. I thought it was a fun time. I will never confuse it with Braveheart or American History X, but it was good, and I would take my son to see it. Hell, he liked Kangaroo Fucking Jack, so he should love this one...
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#20 Posted on 15.7.03 1109.35
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Yes, the Power that Be decided my gimmick had to go. Of course, someone still uses yellow highlighting for his posts. So, what is good for CRZ is not good for others.

Anyway, I think jfkfc has got a point. If you either had low expectations of this film or knew some minor points you probably enjoyed it. Most of the people I went to see the movie with read the Graphic Novel and still enjoyed it.
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