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#1 Posted on 17.5.05 2224.14
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Courtesy: The Torch's Judgment Day press conference coverage, which announced London/Chavo, MNM vs. Haas/Holly and the US Title defense.

WWE Championship I Quit Match:
John Cena [Champion] vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield

Eddy Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Booker T [w/Sharmell] vs. Kurt Angle

WWE Cruiserweight Championship Match:
Paul London [Champion] vs. Chavo Guerrero

Carlito vs. The Big Show

WWE United States Championship Match:
Orlando Jordan [Champion] vs. Heidenreich

WWE Tag Team Championship Match:
MNM [Champions; w/Melina] vs. Charlie Haas & Hardcore Holly

Cena, Eddy, Angle, London, Carlito, Jordan, MNM
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#2 Posted on 17.5.05 2237.05
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You know, actually seeing the card on paper, it doesn't look too bad at all. I think Eddie/Rey could be a candidate for MOTY, if they're given the proper amount of time.

My picks,

And as much as it pains me to say it ...
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#3 Posted on 17.5.05 2253.38
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    Orlando Jordan [Champion] vs. Heidenreich

Wow, that's ...random. Not to mention going to be a god-awful match.

Let's see:
-Cena over JBL

-Eddie over Rey, w/ 1 of 2 things happening: either he gets help from Psichosis/Super Crazy/Juvy to get the win, or those guys get inserted later.

-Booker over Kirt (how can they not after Kurt's actions/promos)

-London over Chavo (could go either way, though)

-Big Show over Carlito

-MNM over Holly/Haas

-Jordan over Heidenreich in a brutally bad match, if only to keep the belt on a heel so RVD can come back and win it. Boy, this belt sure took a dive in the credibility department.
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#4 Posted on 17.5.05 2332.52
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Cena wins (85% certainty)
Rey wins (60%)
London wins (74%)
Angle wins (65%)
Big Show (70%)
Hei-den...Hei-den-reich wins (69%)
MNM wins (99%)
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#5 Posted on 18.5.05 0003.01
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God, Haas and Holly are getting a Tag Team Title shot? Heidenreich's getting a U.S. Title shot? Heidenreich's actually a face by WWE logic? I miss SmackDown for one week and that's what happens? LOL...

Granted I haven't seen this week's SmackDown, but still, yikes, Hardcore Holly and John Heidenreich are getting title shots?

Anyhoo... Cena over JBL. No way they're ending Cena's title reign this early.

Eddie over Rey, because Rey's owned Eddie for the longest time and it's time Eddie got a victory, especially now that he's a heel.

I think Booker will get the win over Angle 'cuz of all the crap Angle's been doing to him and his wife recently.

Paul London over chavo, though I agree that it could easily go either way.

Carlito over The Big Show, 'cuz why not?

Heidenreich over Jordan to win the U.S. Title, because the U.S. Title is a lot like the anti-Intercontinental Title-- give it to the worst possible worker. At least it is recently.

And MNM will retain the tag-team title, 'cuz I have no idea what the hell Hardcore Holly's doing on a pay-per-view anyway.
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#6 Posted on 18.5.05 1942.14
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WWE Championship I Quit Match:
John Cena [Champion] vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield

Cena. Should be a blood bath. I see a pretty decisive finish (and even perhaps a JBL face turn, perhaps him giving the Funk hand shake afterwards)

Eddy Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Rey, then Eddy snaps. This can be dragged out a few more months.

Booker T [w/Sharmell] vs. Kurt Angle

Booker by all wrestling logic

WWE Cruiserweight Championship Match:
Paul London [Champion] vs. Chavo Guerrero

London, one would think.

Carlito vs. The Big Show

Carlito, due to Morgan-ference

WWE United States Championship Match:
Orlando Jordan [Champion] vs. Heidenreich

Heidenreich, he's over. This will only help.

WWE Tag Team Championship Match:
MNM [Champions; w/Melina] vs. Charlie Haas & Hardcore Holly

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#7 Posted on 18.5.05 2031.18
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I'd rather they have Jordan go out to the middle of the ring, throw the belt in the trash can, urinate on it, and then set it on fire before they put it on Heidenreich. Don't mistake a chuckle here and there for a guy being over, and certainly not for him being championship material. Even if you think Orlando is a bad choice for champion, they gotta have somebody at least servicable beat him. I'll hold out hope that he retains.

Otherwise, gimme:

Angle (only because Booker never wins in the end)
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#8 Posted on 18.5.05 2039.15
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WWE Championship I Quit Match:
John Cena [Champion] vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield

Cena. Odds of them having Cena say "I quit" through anything short of a tape of Cena saying "I quit" blaring over the PA system are about a billion to one

Eddy Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio

Have a sinking feeling Mysterio's appearing without his mask here. Could go either way, but I'll say too Mysterio wins, then gets beaten into hamburger

Booker T [w/Sharmell] vs. Kurt Angle


WWE Cruiserweight Championship Match:
Paul London [Champion] vs. Chavo Guerrero


Carlito vs. The Big Show

Given the way they've been booking Big Show? Carlito via an exploding cigar placed in Big Show's mouth

WWE United States Championship Match:
Orlando Jordan [Champion] vs. Heidenreich

Heidenreich. Yeesh, I actually like Heidenreich. Who knew?

WWE Tag Team Championship Match:
MNM [Champions; w/Melina] vs. Charlie Haas & Hardcore Holly

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#9 Posted on 18.5.05 2354.43
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Cena is a lock. I actually have a sneaking feeling that this match is going to blow their WM21 match out of the water. It's going to be a bloodbath, and I'm interested in seeing what the finishing spot will actually be to induce the 'I Quit' from JBL. My money is on Cena pulling a gun, Bradshaw crapping his pants, and then Cena revealing the 'Bang' banner.

Big Show is due for a win, he probably takes Carlito out after CCC's cheating backfires.

Angle/Booker is a weird one. Flairforthegold13 was right when he said that the logical pick is Booker, but then again, Booker was also the logical pick to win a couple of years ago when HHH was insinuating that black people were inferior. Also, Angle has been beating everyone over the last few months. Too close to call.

Jordan/Heidenreich is also too close to call. Either OJ wins due to Basham interference, or else Heidenreich wins when the Bashams interference backfires and furthers the Cabinet breakup angle.

Eddie/Rey could go a hundred different ways. It's going to be a killer match, however. There will be several rematches over the next few months, however.

London will finally beat Chavo.

MNM will beat Haas and Holly handily.
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#10 Posted on 19.5.05 0001.51
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Is it just me, or half these matches have not been announced yet? Not to mention there's no reason to have some of them...

Cena over JBL - No reason to end the reign yet. This is probably just to phase out JBL and get a new heel into the title picture...perhaps Eddie or then someone coming over from the draft.

Eddie over Rey - Here's your MOTYC, as long as they don't try to follow their earlier classic. When they do that, they fall short. Give them time, though. This should prep Eddie for a title shot.

Kurt Angle over Booker - This can be a good match, because Angle can get good matches out of anyone, and Booker's no slouch. He does need to whip out the Harlem (Houston?) Hangover. That's a sweet move.

Chavo over London - How I have missed Chavo...I think Matt Nute will have me on a platter for saying that.

Carlito over Big Show - Where did this match come from? I really hope that they put Carlito over. Though given the recent exploits of Hassan/Daivari, that seems unlikely. I can hope, though.

Jordan over Heidenreich - Sadly. Though this is the equivalent of flushing the title down the shitter. I like Heidenreich, too. He's funny. Now only if he can establish a finisher. Same goes for Orlando.

MNM over Haas/Holly: The Snapshot! Is awesome!

I guess this'd be a good ppv. The cool thing about being in India is that you get to see the PPV's for free. The downside is that all wrestling programming is on a 2-week delay. But that's ok with me.
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#11 Posted on 19.5.05 0913.13
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Eddie/Rey: Hard one to call, actually. Eddie shouldn't start his latest heel run with a loss, but on the other hand Rey ought to get some kind of revenge after being killed by Eddie for a couple weeks. Still, I'll say Eddie.

Cena/JBL: Cena.

Angle/Booker: Booker.

Chavo/London: Hoping London goes over here.

Carlito/Show: Carlito.

Jordan/Hedenreich: Heidenreich, since he's the one getting the push lately.

MNM/Haas & Holly: MNM.
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#12 Posted on 19.5.05 1656.07
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    Originally posted by El Nino
    Is it just me, or half these matches have not been announced yet?

    .....The cool thing about being in India is that you get to see the PPV's for free. The downside is that all wrestling programming is on a 2-week delay.

Perhaps that could have something to do with it.

I have an uneasy feeling that they're just feeding Carlito to Big Show...this match will tell if they're serious about the guy or if hes just the next Rene Dupree.

Eddie winning decisively wouldn't give much more leg to this feud, so I'd say either he cheats or Mysterio wins and something wonky happens postmatch.

Angle should win, cause's Booker T.

Jobbers should not win the tag belts on a PPV....but they usually do.

Cena will win, but Jibble is the friggin' man and will bleed 1980's Flair style on his way to a "blaze of glory" defeat.

Heidenreich sucks more than Jordan. He'll probably win.

Chavo London I have no idea, because they don't seem to care about booking much. Either way, I'm looking forward to it cause technically it should be sound.
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#13 Posted on 20.5.05 1257.45
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You know WWE is in a slump when John Heidenreich and Hardcore Holly are getting title shots on PPV. Then again, Holly wrestled Brock Lesnar for the world title on PPV last year . I think this kind of speaks for the thinness of the rosters on BOTH shows right now. Earlier this month they couldn't even get more than 6 matches on Backlash.
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#14 Posted on 20.5.05 1351.07
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Is it certain that Chavo/London is on the card at all? It's not mentioned on the Judgment Day Web site, last I checked, and I don't recall any mention of it on the show last night either. Heat match, maybe?
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#15 Posted on 20.5.05 1437.23
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Cena wins, of course. JBL bleeds buckets, of course. I think that match will be better than a lot of people are expecting.

MNM wins. I think that they'll at least hang on to the titles lnog enough for them to feud with the returning Dudley Boyz at the Great American Bash or something. Plus, they seem serious about pushing MNM.

Big Show wins, even though it doesn't make sense. I figure it'll be something where Carlito gets embarrassed or made to look stupid, and then postmatch they'll set up a Morgan-Show feud for down the line. I know they should be pushing Carlito, but so it goes in WWE.

Heidenreich wins because they want to make sure that the US Title is never, ever taken seriously. I heard somewhere that OJ is injured, so that's why I'm picking Heidenreich. Why they can't give this title to someone useful is beyond me. I have no problem with OJ, but all they did was job him out for two months when he had the belt. Not too bright. It speaks volumes about the people booking PPVs that this is on the show for sure when it was thrown together the week before the PPV and will be an atrocious match. Yet, at the same time, we don't even know if Chavo-London is on the show or not. Something that will eb a good match and a feud they've been building since No Way Out.

Angle wins because I think that he's next in line to challenge Cena.

Eddie wins to kick off his heel turn right proper and because if Mysterio gets revenge now, there's no point in continuing the feud which is what they should do until Guerrero challenges Cena.

London wins, if the match is on PPV.

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#16 Posted on 21.5.05 0116.51
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    Originally posted by Shem the Penman
    Is it certain that Chavo/London is on the card at all?

It doesn't look to be officially announced. However, I can't imagine what they will use to fill up the card. Even giving Rey/Eddie 30 minutes (which I doubt it'll get), they'd still have time to give London/Chavo a 16-minute match. Or maybe they'll just do another diva competition instead.


John Cena d. John Bradshaw Layfield. This should be the blow-off match, as Cena and Layfield move on to other things. If they go the brawling route then this could be good. If they go the submissions route then it could be really bad.

Kurt Angle d. Booker T. Match should be solid. I'm guessing they'll do some angle with Sharmell, with either her costing Booker the win or Angle kidnapping her after the match or something. I doubt this feud is ending just yet.

Eddie Guerrero d. Rey Mysterio. I see Eddie winning and then delivering a major beat-down on Rey after the match, screaming "Do you see what you made me do?" Should be match of the night if given a good amount of time. They're WrestleMania match was dissapointing, but it was an off night (and really, it was still a good *** - ***1/2 match). This time if they're on their game (and Rey has a sturdy mask) then this should be incredible. Really, this feud is the best thing in WWE right now, imo.

MNM d. Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas. Haas gets distracted by Melina, loses the match, and Holly gets angry. Actually, I think they did that angle back in December and it never went anywhere. Maybe it will this time around. Should be a solid match.

Carlito Caribbean Cool d. Big Show. No reason to job Carlito, as he's got a great character going. If kept short than this should be inoffensive and get across what it needs to. I do fear this will set up a Big Show v. Matt Morgan match, though.

Orlando Jordan d. Heidenreich. I just hope it's short. I don't really see much in Orlando Jordan as far as being US Champion goes, but I see less in Heidenreich, who seems to be going in a Jim Duggan sort of direction.

Paul London d. Chavo Guerrero. Should be excellent if it's given time, or if it's even on the card at all. It should be though, because they have 3 hours to fill, and I don't think giving Jordan v. Heidenreich 12 minutes would be in the best interest of anybody.

Really, not a bad card. Jordan/Heidenreich looks horrid, and Carlito/Show doesn't look great either, but they should be kept short. All the other matches I think will be solid at least. Doesn't look like a "PPV of the Year" quality show, but it doesn't look half bad either.

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#17 Posted on 21.5.05 1053.36
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Londono v.s Chavo: I say Chavo, maybe CHEATING TO WIN~!

Carlito v.s Big Show: I'll go Carlito here.

Booker T v.s Angle: Angle

Eddy v.s Rey: Eddy

MNM v.s Holly/Haas: MNM

Jordan v.s Heidenreich: Jordan

Cena v.s JBL: Cena

Man, I picked all heels to win except one. That's not good.

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#18 Posted on 21.5.05 1415.09
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John Cena over JBL
Eddie Guerrero over Rey Mysterio
Kurt Angle over Booker T
Big Show over Carlito Caribbean Cool
MNM over Haas/Holly
Orlando Jordan over Heidenreich
Paul London over Chavo Guerrero
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#19 Posted on 21.5.05 1458.28
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Cena over JBL. Can't believe im depending on JBL to carry one.
Eddie over Rey.
Booker over Angle. If they want Book to look good they have to put him over in his first big match in 6 months. This sould be his first big win in years.
MNM retain. Meltzer has hopes for this which is good.
Heidenreich wins belt.
London retains. What no promotion?
Carlito over Show. Leads to quick Show over Morgan on SD.

Th only real match im not looking forward to is the US title.
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#20 Posted on 21.5.05 1551.10
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WWE Championship I Quit Match:
John Cena [Champion]

Eddy Guerrero

Booker T [w/Sharmell]

WWE Cruiserweight Championship Match:
Paul London [Champion]


WWE United States Championship Match:

WWE Tag Team Championship Match:
MNM [Champions; w/Melina]
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