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#1 Posted on 17.5.02 1101.07
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That interview Jericho did on Smackdown was really serious, more than any I've seen with him before. By the end I was truly convinced that he'll win Sunday. Most of you guys say that because of the usual stuff in the back, HHH will win, I would mind either way. But, my instinct tells me that Y2J will get it done. I wonder if it's the same Jericho that ran through Japan and Mexico. If so, then despite my current disdain of the WWE (in favor of the last several X-Files episodes), it's gonna kick butt. Comments?
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#2 Posted on 17.5.02 1236.39
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I thought that the "real me" comments, while looking back at his actions as those of his personas, indicated that he is going to be changing his gimmick a little. I guess this is the end of the Y2J moniker? Or am I reading into this a little?
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#3 Posted on 17.5.02 1245.32
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I don't remember ever seeing Jericho as a serious heel except his feud with China when he attacked her with a hammer. I admit I havn't seen his Mexico/Japan work so the only gimmicks I've seen are

Lionheart Chris Jericho
Conspiracy Theory Chris Jericho
Y2J(sophmoric face)
Living Legend Chris Jericho

You know I don't think a serious Jericho would bode well for me. But that's just my opinion.
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#4 Posted on 17.5.02 1309.53
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Maybe you're right, but I wouldn't mind seeing the thumb smashing Jericho myself. Then again, when I saw Chyna's bloody thumb afterwards, I laughed my ass off. Anyway, he'll always be "Y2J" to me.

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#5 Posted on 17.5.02 1313.43
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In my opinion, it's a definite move toward cementing Jericho as a top-rung, serious main-eventer. [/sarcasm]
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#6 Posted on 17.5.02 1338.02
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Lionheart Chris Jericho
Conspiracy Theory Chris Jericho
Y2J(sophmoric face)
Living Legend Chris Jericho


In between Conspiracy theory Jericho and Sophomoric face Jericho there was "Wanna-be bad-ass heel Jericho" which is what they seem to be going for now. It sucked. Almost as bad as "wanna-be bad-ass face" Jericho that was between (I think) Sophomoric face and Living Legend. This character, in tandem with Chris Benoit, is also known as "Beecher/Keller" Jericho (and Benoit). (apology to all non-OZ fans out there).

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#7 Posted on 17.5.02 1404.36
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I like his heel work, but he's not gonna be a bona fide top guy that way. The "Lionheart" face routine could work. He still needs to find a way to distinguish himself.
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#8 Posted on 17.5.02 1456.48
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Hey Moe, since you bring up the OZ thing. While Jericho was on his title reign this year they brought in that blonde guy to Oz who was Schilingers bitch. He had long blonde hair and resembled a skinny Jericho. Did anyone else see the similarities between this guy(sorry I can't remember his name) and Jericho, or am I just crazy.
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#9 Posted on 17.5.02 1500.42
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Besides, it looks like Edge is going to be taking Y2J's face persona...

Oh yeah, BTW, Trips is gonna go over this Sunday again...but it's gonna be a battle, so no one loses heat.
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#10 Posted on 17.5.02 1506.41
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I really liked Living Legend Jericho myself, but if he is going to get serious he's going to have to drop the catchphrases.
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#11 Posted on 17.5.02 1607.55
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Personally, I loved Conspiracy Victim Jericho -- going to the Library of Congress, the cut-out of Malenko, etc.
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#12 Posted on 17.5.02 1636.45
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They already have a serious wrestler named Chris coming back and he would suffer badly in comparison. The serious, pissed off all the time gimmick is for someone that can't work the stick. It would be stupid for Jericho to stop using something that is one of his stongest assets.
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#13 Posted on 17.5.02 1700.58
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    Originally posted by Lotty
    Besides, it looks like Edge is going to be taking Y2J's face persona...

    Oh yeah, BTW, Trips is gonna go over this Sunday again...but it's gonna be a battle, so no one loses heat.



Last time they had a "battle" in the Last Man Standing Jericho STILL lost heat in the eyes of marks and casual fans by losing. He needs a clean win. Desperately, unless he wants to stay in midcard hell forever.

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#14 Posted on 17.5.02 1831.10
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Just because he did one serious promo doesn't mean he is completely changing his persona.
It's just that everyone realises HITC is a serious matter. And to emphasize it, Jericho went serious for a bit. Which is no different from yelling 'respect me!' prior to the Rumble. It is just the way to say/tell that nobody should count him out just because he is a whining heel..

HHH did the same thing prior to the Streetfight with Cactus. At the time he was the prick heel, being an ass cos he and steph ruled supreme. But suddenly he went all mental and started stooping to new lows, and threatening to be more sadistic than Cactus ever was.

Being serious only doesn't work for Jericho. He has too much natural charisma for that.

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#15 Posted on 17.5.02 1923.35
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Being serious only doesn't work for Jericho. He has too much natural charisma for that.

You never know. The same was said about HHH circa 1998.
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#16 Posted on 17.5.02 2144.43
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They could, but probably won't do a double turn w/ Shane or Steph. Have Jericho get back into the top card against Taker, and HHH feud with Mr. McMahin over Shane/Steph.
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#17 Posted on 18.5.02 0004.18
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    Originally posted by Lotty
    Besides, it looks like Edge is going to be taking Y2J's face persona...

    Oh yeah, BTW, Trips is gonna go over this Sunday again...but it's gonna be a battle, so no one loses heat.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HHH is like a heat vampire, and Jericho is a neck waiting to be suckled upon. Jericho's only prayer of ever getting over as a permanent heel is getting away from HHH by moving to Raw, and hoping that maybe Austin would be happier working with him than with the NWO. As long as he and HHH are on the same show, he will always be HHH's personal job bitch.
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#18 Posted on 18.5.02 0031.44
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The split built up Benoit totally...so Jericho (even as champ) had the deck stacked against him. Bottom line...they need a new Jericho. Instead of Conspiracy Victim Jericho...how about Conspiracy Creator Jericho? He could use a large Machivallean plot to get the title back!
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#19 Posted on 18.5.02 2352.29
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I'm inclined to agree with spf on this one. Jericho is to HHH as Savage is to Hogan, only there to make him look better.

Christ, HHH is already lining up his next feud (run Edge, RUN!) before he's even done with Jericho.

Angle was running into the same problem with HHH a few years ago before that awesome run with Austin.
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#20 Posted on 19.5.02 0839.57
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    Originally posted by Ike
    IHHH is already lining up his next feud (run Edge, RUN!)


Jericho IS a conspiracy victim. Ruxpin is obviously out to to destroy all other competitors with long, flowing, nice hair. He's turned Jericho into a future, bitter, over inflated ego having slim jim spokesman, his wife is writing Christain to tap to Mark Henry's bear hugs, and now he is after Edge. Be afraid Nash, be very afraid.

(edited by AngryJohnny on 19.5.02 1037)

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