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#1 Posted on 12.7.03 0711.42
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So, the rumor floating around is that Mark Jindrak is going to be the 4th member of the Evolution. Fuck that. Jindrak bores the hell out of me plus if you want to add a guy with zero charisma just wait for Dave Batista to come back, or better yet why not just put a broomstick out there at least Flair could do something with that.

I think that 4th member of the Evolution should be Kanyon. The man is just oozing charisma plus he's a good worker to boot. Every calm, cool collective group has a loud mouth. Kanyon could back Triple H in corners by dishing out challenges that the group is trying to avoid or he could just fly off the handle once in awhile. Maybe make him a little psycho. I wouldn't want him to become the village idiot (Perry Saturn of the Revolution), but they need a mix of personalities in the group ... and who's better than Kanyon?
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#2 Posted on 12.7.03 0740.22
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    So, the rumor floating around is that Mark Jindrak is going to be the 4th member of the Evolution. Fuck that. Jindrak bores the hell out of me plus if you want to add a guy with zero charisma just wait for Dave Batista to come back, or better yet why not just put a broomstick out there at least Flair could do something with that.

    I think that 4th member of the Evolution should be Kanyon. The man is just oozing charisma plus he's a good worker to boot. Every calm, cool collective group has a loud mouth. Kanyon could back Triple H in corners by dishing out challenges that the group is trying to avoid or he could just fly off the handle once in awhile. Maybe make him a little psycho. I wouldn't want him to become the village idiot (Perry Saturn of the Revolution), but they need a mix of personalities in the group ... and who's better than Kanyon?



The 4th spot would go to an "enforcer", which means another big guy getting a push. Personally I wouldn't be surprsied if someone like Test or Kane, maybe a turned Nash - perhaps even Big Show - take the spot. Which is a shame, and personally I agree that the *best* guy for the spot is probably Kanyon. Kanyon is one of those consistantly misused yet undoubtedly talented guys who for whatever reason (backstage politics?) never seems to get a break. Personally I've been a fan ever since his (short lived) Mortis days...
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#3 Posted on 12.7.03 1125.52
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Dude Kanyon sucks, how would he fit in with evolution??
one word for Kanyon.... MORTIS
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#4 Posted on 12.7.03 1229.22
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I also thought Kanyon was awesome in WCW but has been misused in WWE. I don't know if he'd fit in with Evolution, though. He seems too goofy.
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#5 Posted on 12.7.03 1240.55
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Ahhhhhhh....The Alliance MVP! IMHO I don't think there is a need to dis Jindrak, though I do agree that Kanyon would be a good fit. And I also enjoyed him as Mortis! I like what you came up with BigDaddyLoco, someone with charisma should be added as the fourth member.
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#6 Posted on 12.7.03 1456.30
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    So, the rumor floating around is that Mark Jindrak is going to be the 4th member of the Evolution. Fuck that. Jindrak bores the hell out of me plus if you want to add a guy with zero charisma just wait for Dave Batista to come back, or better yet why not just put a broomstick out there at least Flair could do something with that.

    I think that 4th member of the Evolution should be Kanyon. The man is just oozing charisma plus he's a good worker to boot. Every calm, cool collective group has a loud mouth. Kanyon could back Triple H in corners by dishing out challenges that the group is trying to avoid or he could just fly off the handle once in awhile. Maybe make him a little psycho. I wouldn't want him to become the village idiot (Perry Saturn of the Revolution), but they need a mix of personalities in the group ... and who's better than Kanyon?



I have a sneaking suspicion that if he did join Evolution, it would sort of kill the gimmick they have going. Evolution is supposed to be a bunch of guys we hate because they're "pretty boy jerks". I think the ladies will back me up when I say that Kanyon, while a great jerk and most certainly a boy, is not pretty.
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#7 Posted on 12.7.03 1629.45
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Putting Jindrak in would be a mistake because it'd dilute Randy Orton's significance in the group. There'd be two fresh guys trying to leech heat and get the rub of being in situations with Naitch and Haitch.

Mark Jindrak is such a cookie cutter guy, he reminds me of Shawn Stasiak.

Kanyon can't join Evolution, he's too busy being competing with Funaki for biggest Smackdown jobber. I say Kanyon's in NWATNA by year's end at this rate.
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#8 Posted on 12.7.03 1727.36
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I like Kanyon but I don't see him as part of Evolution. That Tibetan Monk gimmick would be better than Evolution.

And I stated in various other posts who I want as the 4th member of Evolution.
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#9 Posted on 12.7.03 1848.52
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While I'm a big fan of the Mortis gimmick, I think they need to find someone for Kanyon to stooge on like he did with his "Positively Kanyon" angle. Hell, maybe they could bring DDP back as a manager for a couple young faces (guys like Orlando Jordan), and use that to launch Kanyon back onto Smackdown with a logical feud.
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#10 Posted on 12.7.03 1908.11
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Doesn't the fact that they threw out Jindrak this past Monday to play jobber to Jericho kind of end the rumor that Jindrak is joining Evolution? I mean, it's hard to see him going from jobber to Evolution anytime soon, right?
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#11 Posted on 12.7.03 1925.21
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    Originally posted by ges7184
    Doesn't the fact that they threw out Jindrak this past Monday to play jobber to Jericho kind of end the rumor that Jindrak is joining Evolution? I mean, it's hard to see him going from jobber to Evolution anytime soon, right?


Especially since JR was making him look like the underdog face. Although that's how Orton started off too.

Personally I thought Jindrak was a better wrestler than O'Haire in the WCW. He might've been cutting good promos at the time but neither were O'Haire, Noble, and Hurricane and yet they improved since then. So I don't think you can say yet that Jindrak sucks when he's only been on tv once.

Kanyon is great, and he is underused but he doesn't fit right in Evolution. He's not the cruel, challenging son of a bitch type heel he's the whiny sometimes goofy, cheating heel. He's more like a Jericho or Christian than a Triple H type. Besides with Flair, Triple H and Orton (who they are pushing to the moon) he'd just be the team jobber. You know the guy, the one who is there basically just so there is somebody that the faces can pin without getting the pin on the "big" guy.

I would like to see Kanyon used more but I hope he stays on Smackdown.
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#12 Posted on 12.7.03 2053.08
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    Kanyon is one of those consistantly misused yet undoubtedly talented guys who for whatever reason (backstage politics?) never seems to get a break

"WCW buy-out guy". That's the reason.

And as for Kanyon not fitting the "enforcer" role - why not book him strongly? Have him go out & look strong against mid-to-upper level guys. Would that be so hard?

But I'd rather he stay on SD and get a push.
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#13 Posted on 13.7.03 1604.30
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    Originally posted by ges7184
    Doesn't the fact that they threw out Jindrak this past Monday to play jobber to Jericho kind of end the rumor that Jindrak is joining Evolution? I mean, it's hard to see him going from jobber to Evolution anytime soon, right?
In & of itself, I say no. On principle, a loss to one of the top guys is not necessarily a problem for a newbie's upward momentum. The problem though was that he got out there & had an "ehh" match with Chris Jericho. He's not ready for a high profile gig. (Doesn't mean he won't be at some point -- just that "It's not his time right now.")


    Originally posted by KevinKellyisFNHardcore
    Evolution is supposed to be a bunch of guys we hate because they're "pretty boy jerks". I think the ladies will back me up when I say that Kanyon, while a great jerk and most certainly a boy, is not pretty.
Damn right on all accounts.

I don't have the WCW background with Kanyon that most of you do, so I'm just seeing him fresh. In the match on Velocity last night with Orlando, he was showing a little more of the goofiness that's been mentioned. I'd say he needs to run with that -- I was more interested in him in that match than I'd been so far.
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#14 Posted on 13.7.03 1607.21
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I think that 4th member of the Evolution should be Kanyon. The man is just oozing charisma plus he's a good worker to boot.

This is the most completely incorrect thing I have ever seen. He's a black hole of Charisma, and he looks like crap in the ring.
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#15 Posted on 13.7.03 1644.43
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It's gonna be Test. Big guy, WWE pet project, a massive heel after beating up three women. He makes the most sense to join now.
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#16 Posted on 13.7.03 1853.52
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    This is the most completely incorrect thing I have ever seen. He's a black hole of Charisma, and he looks like crap in the ring.


That's such a bold statement and yet you backed it up with absolutly nothing. Nice work tasslex, nice work indeed.
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