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#1 Posted on 4.12.11 1933.15
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Bowl announcements coming up at the top of the hour! (Those that haven't already leaked on Twitter, that is)
BCS Standings             BCS  Prev  Harris Int.    USA Today       Computer Rankings
through 12/4 Avg Week Rank Pts % Rank Pts % Avg 1 2 3 4 5 6 %
1. LSU (13-0) 1.0000 1 1 28751.0000 1 14751.0000 1 1 1 1 1 1 11.000
2. Alabama (11-1) .9419 2 2 2723 .9471 2 1399 .9485 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 .930
3. Oklahoma State (11-1) .9333 3 3 2654 .9231 3 1367 .9268 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 .950
4. Stanford (11-1) .8476 4 4 2504 .8710 4 1286 .8719 5 4 4 5 8 10 7 .800
5. Oregon (11-2) .7901 9 5 2372 .8250 5 1232 .8353 8 12 5 8 10 9 6 .710
6. Arkansas (10-2) .7687 8 7 2163 .7523 7 1112 .7539 5 7 8 12 5 4 4 .800
7. Boise State (11-1) .7408 7 6 2236 .7777 6 1128 .7647 9 9 6 7 12 12 8 .680
8. Kansas State (10-2) .6827 11 10 1733 .6028 10 878 .5953 4 5 7 4 4 5 5 .850
9. South Carolina (10-2) .6553 12 9 1833 .6376 9 971 .6583 10 8 12 11 9 8 9 .670
10. Wisconsin (11-2) .6374 15 8 2060 .7165 8 1085 .7356 14 15 10 15 16 19 12 .460
11. Virginia Tech (11-2) .5190 5 11 1498 .5210 11 835 .5661 13 13 11 13 14 21 17 .470
12. Baylor (9-3) .4977 17 16 1228 .4271 16 599 .4061 11 10 17 10 6 7 11 .660
13. Michigan (10-2) .4794 16 12 1447 .5033 12 789 .5349 15 11 16 9 19 22 18 .400
14. Oklahoma (9-3) .4603 10 19 933 .3245 19 437 .2963 7 6 9 6 7 6 10 .760
15. Clemson (10-3) .4218 20 14 1351 .4699 14 657 .4454 16 19 15 18 20 17 13 .350
16. Georgia (10-3) .4119 14 18 1095 .3809 18 538 .3647 12 14 20 16 11 11 14 .490
17. Michigan State (10-3).3883 13 13 1428 .4967 13 735 .4983 21 20 13 21 24 24 22 .170
18. TCU (10-2) .3869 18 15 1245 .4330 15 631 .4278 17 22 14 19 23 18 15 .300
19. Houston (12-1) .3504 6 17 1132 .3937 17 542 .3675 18 16 19 14 21 25 19 .290
20. Nebraska (9-3) .2606 19 20 717 .2494 20 402 .2725 19 17 18 17 25 23 20 .260
21. Southern Miss (11-2) .1918 24 21 711 .2473 21 366 .2481 25 -- 22 22 -- -- 16 .080
22. Penn State (9-3) .1305 21 23 383 .1332 23 189 .1281 24 21 21 20 -- -- 23 .130
23. West Virginia (9-3) .1233 23 22 522 .1816 22 278 .1885 29 -- -- 24 -- -- -- .000
24. Texas (7-5) .0876 22 34 6 .0021 34 1 .0007 19 18 -- 23 13 13 24 .260
25. Auburn (7-5) .0584 NR 31 15 .0052 36 NR .0000 21 25 24 -- 17 14 21 .170

1 Anderson & Hester
2 Billingsley
3 Colley Matrix
4 Massey
5 Sagarin
6 Wolfe


EDIT: Bowl schedule here (ESPN)

(edited by CRZ on 4.12.11 2018)
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#2 Posted on 4.12.11 1949.12
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Would I have rather seen Oklahoma State face LSU than an Alabama rematch, yes. But, when you can't hold a 24-7 lead, you lose control of your destiny.
There is a Big XII bias in the computers. How do they all have Oklahoma in the top 10, with most having them in the top 7? And a few have a mediocre at best Texas at 13? The 'oddness' of the computers might be the reason that TCU didn't bump up to the top 16 and get an automatic bid.
Would also rather have seen Kansas State as the at-large instead of Va. Tech in the Sugar Bowl.

(edited by redsoxnation on 4.12.11 2050)
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#3 Posted on 4.12.11 2025.19
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation

    There is a Big XII bias in the computers. How do they all have Oklahoma in the top 10, with most having them in the top 7? And a few have a mediocre at best Texas at 13?

When questions like this come up, the answer is always "strength of schedule". Billingsley and Sagarin have the SEC ahead of the Big 12 in terms of conference strength, the other 4 have the Big 12 ahead.

Too bad for Houston. That loss to Southern Miss cost C-USA $10 million.
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#4 Posted on 4.12.11 2028.24
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I think its a lot of bullshit. Iowa St. has more wins over teams with a record over 500 and has more top 25 wins. As much as people like to blame the computers, its the human voters who made this happen. So, we have another SEC champ in this system.

My Irish get to play FSU in the Champs sports bowl on Thursday before New Years. I love the match up, hate the bowl and the day. Thursday? Really? I also don't know how a 7-5 Auburn or Texas gets a BCS ranking when ND is 8-4. Sitting out helped out Bama, but not other teams? Again, a lot of bullshit and too much power given to voters who are SEC biased.

(edited by lotjx on 4.12.11 2029)
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#5 Posted on 4.12.11 2121.02
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    Originally posted by lotjx
    My Irish get to play FSU in the Champs sports bowl on Thursday before New Years. I love the match up, hate the bowl and the day. Thursday? Really?

    (edited by lotjx on 4.12.11 2029)


Yeah crappy night for the game, but I'm happy enough with the matchup. The way the defense has been playing they "should" be able to shut down Notre Dame. The way the offensive line has been playing, we'll be lucky to score 20 points.
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#6 Posted on 4.12.11 2319.21
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Northwestern made a bowl game. We had a mediocre season. There are too many bowl games.

Northwestern hasn't won a bowl game since 15 years before I was born. I don't know quite how I'll feel if we do it in a year when we only went .500 and then beat another 6-6 team in a bowl.
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#7 Posted on 4.12.11 2330.05
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Oklahoma State getting screwed is probably the worst BCS outcome since 2004, and the blame totally falls on the human voters for showing favoritism to the "big-name" schools within the power six conferences and being obstinate in their decision making without properly examining the profiles. You put Oklahoma State and Alabama's seasons up against each other blindly ala the NCAA basketball tournament committee, I guarantee you the Cowboys would get picked every time.

    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Would also rather have seen Kansas State as the at-large instead of Va. Tech in the Sugar Bowl.

K-State is a direct victim of the OK State screwjob. Had the Cowboys jumped past Alabama into the national title game, the Fiesta almost surely would have replaced them with K-State rather than Virginia Tech. (Not considering that in a truly just world, BOTH K-State and Virginia Tech would have been left out in favor of Boise State.)
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#8 Posted on 4.12.11 2340.58
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    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    There are too many bowl games.


Never more evidenced by the fact that UCLA and Illinois, who both just fired their coaches, are facing off in a bowl game.

I mean, good lord! UCLA just gave up 99 points in their last two games and they're getting a BOWL GAME???

(edited by It's False on 4.12.11 2142)
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#9 Posted on 5.12.11 0421.44
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Illinois lost six straight to end the season and THEY are getting a bowl game, so....yeah.
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#10 Posted on 5.12.11 0448.02
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    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
    Illinois lost six straight to end the season and THEY are getting a bowl game, so....yeah.


Against a 6-7 UCLA team no less. I think that pisses me off more than the rematch in the "championship" game. It is bad enough that they reward .500 teams with the chance to get selected to a bowl, but a team with a losing record should never, ever, get to play past the regular season.
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#11 Posted on 5.12.11 0609.43
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    Originally posted by Zeruel
      Originally posted by Eddie Famous
      Illinois lost six straight to end the season and THEY are getting a bowl game, so....yeah.


    Against a 6-7 UCLA team no less. I think that pisses me off more than the rematch in the "championship" game. It is bad enough that they reward .500 teams with the chance to get selected to a bowl, but a team with a losing record should never, ever, get to play past the regular season.

UCLA might have declined to play in the Pac-12 championship if they hadn't gotten the exemption to make a bowl at 6-7. That would have been quite the embarrassment for the conference.
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#12 Posted on 5.12.11 0649.50
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I'll never get why people say there are too many bowls. So what? We get more football, I'm all for it.

I would have liked to see Ok st versus LSU, but they weren't really "screwed" here. When you compare loses, Bama has a big edge. Oh well. Seeing OSU against Stanford will be fun anyway.

It's funny all the talk of a plus one now. Say OSU had gotten it's chance against LSU. Then LSU wins and Bama wins its bowl game and you get a plus one rematch so what did you fix?
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#13 Posted on 5.12.11 0707.43
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    It's funny all the talk of a plus one now. Say OSU had gotten it's chance against LSU. Then LSU wins and Bama wins its bowl game and you get a plus one rematch so what did you fix?


Uh, OSU gets its chance against LSU?
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#14 Posted on 5.12.11 0835.48
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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
      Originally posted by wmatistic
      It's funny all the talk of a plus one now. Say OSU had gotten it's chance against LSU. Then LSU wins and Bama wins its bowl game and you get a plus one rematch so what did you fix?


    Uh, OSU gets its chance against LSU?


Yeah, but I don't really care about that, me being me. I mean I don't think most people believe they'd win that game anyway. We got the two best teams and a perfect matchup in OSU/Stanford. I'm happy as always with the bowl lineup.
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#15 Posted on 5.12.11 0841.09
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I actually believe OSU can beat LSU. LSU has looked liked dogs in the first half of most of their games. Someone needs to put up points on them and learn how to tackle Honey Badger then LSU is done. Georgia left 21 points on the field and the idiot refs who let that return count. OSU just needs to play loose and put up points. If they can keep Oklahoma from scoring a TD for four quarters they can do that to LSU.
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#16 Posted on 5.12.11 0859.47
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    Yeah, but I don't really care about that, me being me.


So the BCS rules are meant to satisfy wmatistic and no one else should have an argument? Got it. Have your opinion but don't act all mystified why someone could have an opposing viewpoint.
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#17 Posted on 5.12.11 0903.49
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    Originally posted by lotjx
    Someone needs to put up points on them and learn how to tackle Honey Badger then LSU is done.


There's your problem right there. If it was that easy, someone would have done it by now with their schedule. They beat the Pac 10 champs, the Big East champs and went undefeated in the SEC. I'm done doubting Les.

This year at least.
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#18 Posted on 5.12.11 0908.44
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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
      Originally posted by wmatistic
      Yeah, but I don't really care about that, me being me.


    So the BCS rules are meant to satisfy wmatistic and no one else should have an argument? Got it. Have your opinion but don't act all mystified why someone could have an opposing viewpoint.


What? Where exactly did I act "mystified" that someone could have a different viewpoint about that? I gave my opinions, said it wasn't a big deal to me either way. Not sure why you're all pissy about it.
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#19 Posted on 5.12.11 1105.39
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    What? Where exactly did I act "mystified" that someone could have a different viewpoint about that?


Here:

    Originally posted by wmatistic
    It's funny all the talk of a plus one now. Say OSU had gotten it's chance against LSU. Then LSU wins and Bama wins its bowl game and you get a plus one rematch so what did you fix?


And I told you "OSU gets it's chance at LSU." That's what it fixes. Who cares if they lose, some people think they deserve a shot at it.

    Originally posted by wmatistic
    I gave my opinions, said it wasn't a big deal to me either way. Not sure why you're all pissy about it.


Not pissy at all. Just wholly amused by your arrogance. When you dismissed my response with "Yeah, but I don't care about that", I thought it was amusing that you had expected me to respond with a answer based on what you care about.
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#20 Posted on 5.12.11 1112.53
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    It's funny all the talk of a plus one now. Say OSU had gotten it's chance against LSU. Then LSU wins and Bama wins its bowl game and you get a plus one rematch so what did you fix?


You fix the "not giving Oklahoma State a chance"-part. I find it funny that the argument against Oklahoma State getting the spot is "well, they shouldn't have lost", when Alabama - you know - lost, too.
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