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#1 Posted on 12.7.04 2328.12
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Amazing... the reason some people never learn is because they hate and fear knowledge. I can't believe this kind of thing is still going on.... I guess freedom of speech isn't as important as it used to be. I'm glad someone stopped them.

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (AP) -- A church's plan for an old-fashioned book-burning has been thwarted by city and county fire codes.

from CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/07/12/no.book.burning.ap/index.html
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#2 Posted on 13.7.04 0409.40
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Stupid yeah, but even the church has freedom of speech, so I don't see the fuss.
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#3 Posted on 13.7.04 0429.31
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Commence eye-rolling now. *rolls his eyes*...

I couldn't help but notice that “The Jesus Church” didn't have any tag such as "Baptist", "Presbyterian", "Catholic" or anything like that. Take that for whatever it's worth.
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#4 Posted on 13.7.04 0430.09
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Furthermore, but you gotta buy the book first, so with a big enough congregation, there could be a nice little royalties bump of about 15 cents.

I really think I'm going to start attending these kinds of things in vulgar clothing with a slight hint of alcohol on my breath.
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#5 Posted on 13.7.04 0529.21
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Someone should deliver a bunch of bibles to be burned, but put them in Harry Potter book covers...then when they're burning, jump out and say "You got Punk'd!"
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#6 Posted on 13.7.04 0612.25
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    Originally posted by Stilton
    Amazing... the reason some people never learn is because they hate and fear knowledge. I can't believe this kind of thing is still going on.... I guess freedom of speech isn't as important as it used to be. I'm glad someone stopped them.
Yup, because their freedom of speech to burn the books is not as important as your freedom of speech to stop them.

Besides, you're in Canada, where Freedom of Speech was outlawed some time ago.
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#7 Posted on 13.7.04 0755.34
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    Originally posted by meatcurtains
    Someone should deliver a bunch of bibles to be burned, but put them in Harry Potter book covers...then when they're burning, jump out and say "You got Punk'd!"



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#8 Posted on 13.7.04 0904.00
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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by Stilton
      Amazing... the reason some people never learn is because they hate and fear knowledge. I can't believe this kind of thing is still going on.... I guess freedom of speech isn't as important as it used to be. I'm glad someone stopped them.
    Yup, because their freedom of speech to burn the books is not as important as your freedom of speech to stop them.

    Besides, you're in Canada, where Freedom of Speech was outlawed some time ago.


Everyone's freedom of speech is sacred under our laws with obvious exceptions. That is why the ACLU sides with the Nazis and Klan. Burning thoughts is reprehensible but not allowing them that right is moreso.

Ultimatley, this groups actions only hurt them and expose them for what they really are. That in many ways is a very real purpose of freedom of speech. Exposing ideas to the light of truth is the ultimate acid test.
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#9 Posted on 13.7.04 1237.24
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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by Stilton
      Amazing... the reason some people never learn is because they hate and fear knowledge. I can't believe this kind of thing is still going on.... I guess freedom of speech isn't as important as it used to be. I'm glad someone stopped them.
    Yup, because their freedom of speech to burn the books is not as important as your freedom of speech to stop them.

    Besides, you're in Canada, where Freedom of Speech was outlawed some time ago.


Huh? Is this true? I had no idea!
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#10 Posted on 14.7.04 0340.00
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I figure it had to be a group of Baptists or Evangelical Christians.

They generally are the ones who feel a need to make a statement like burning books.

So they are throwing everything out in the trash eh? Well it looks like looters are going to have some good pick up's once the fire and brimstone service is over.

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#11 Posted on 14.7.04 1109.41
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Besides, you're in Canada, where Freedom of Speech was outlawed some time ago.


Suuuuuuure.

You know, if you didn't post like, every two hours, I'd swear you were a troll.
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#12 Posted on 14.7.04 1141.56
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    Originally posted by raygun
    You know, if you didn't post like, every two hours, I'd swear you were a troll.
Wow. When you run out of arguments you can call people names. That's so cool!

Besides, Canada has a proud history of proescuting people for so-called "Hate Speech", as I have documented here before.

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#13 Posted on 14.7.04 1237.33
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Grimis, I've been reading this board for long enough to know about your penchant for inciting anger with one sentence jabs at those which whose opinions you don't share. To me, that's trolling.

Now, as far as the whole arguement goes, it's not like your country is standing alone as the beacon of free speech. As an example, the state of Pennsylvania added an amendment to its hate-crimes law that covers something called "harassment by communication." It's got Christians fired up, because it may stop Pastors from preaching against homosexuality.

Do I agree with this? No. Do I support curtailing hate speech with the hammer of the law? No.

But if you think that stifling free speech is limited only to Canada, then give your head a shake.

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#14 Posted on 14.7.04 1244.23
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The church STILL does book burnings? Is this 1978 or some shit?
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#15 Posted on 14.7.04 1301.30
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And I am not saying that it is limited to Canada. What I am saying is that the restriction of speech is much more prevelant and prosecutorial in Canada than it is here.
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#16 Posted on 14.7.04 1305.10
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    And I am not saying that it is limited to Canada. What I am saying is that the restriction of speech is much more prevelant and prosecutorial in Canada than it is here.

Damn right Grim. Things like getting arrested for going to a Bush rally and wearing an anti-Bush shirt (news8austin.com) just don't happen here in the USA :)
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#17 Posted on 14.7.04 1327.56
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    Originally posted by the article spf2119 linked to
    Police placed Nicole and Jeffery Rank of Corpus Christi in restraints after they entered the event with a ticket and then removed their clothes to reveal anti-Bush T-shirts, according to the acting director of the Capitol police in Charleston.

    He said the two were asked to go out to the designated protest area, but refused.


Perhaps if they had taken their sorry asses to the place that was designated, nothing would've happened. This wasn't censorship, this was Darwinism weeding out the retards.


Not being from Canada, I can only comment on what I see on television and read from other Canadians. That said, while CBC is getting rid of Don Cherry, in part for his "outrageous" commentary, he barely holds a candle to Steven A. Smith who is allowed to run wild with whatever crap he sees fit to spew. Also, I always read a certain Canadian wrestling reviewer who mentions that all the violence towards women is edited out on TSN up there. I could be wrong, but Canada seems a bit more strict on what they allow to be heard or seen publicly than in the U.S. If that's incorrect, please let me know.





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#18 Posted on 14.7.04 1332.13
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    Originally posted by spf2119
      Originally posted by Grimis
      And I am not saying that it is limited to Canada. What I am saying is that the restriction of speech is much more prevelant and prosecutorial in Canada than it is here.

    Damn right Grim. Things like getting arrested for going to a Bush rally and wearing an anti-Bush shirt (news8austin.com) just don't happen here in the USA :)



Yeah, that really reminds me of Alexander Solzenitzen. Except not.
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#19 Posted on 14.7.04 1400.47
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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    That said, while CBC is getting rid of Don Cherry, in part for his "outrageous" commentary, he barely holds a candle to Steven A. Smith who is allowed to run wild with whatever crap he sees fit to spew. Also, I always read a certain Canadian wrestling reviewer who mentions that all the violence towards women is edited out on TSN up there. I could be wrong, but Canada seems a bit more strict on what they allow to be heard or seen publicly than in the U.S. If that's incorrect, please let me know.


Well, Cherry has made insulting comments about Europeans and French-Canadians, groups who make up a significant number of NHL players and fans. So I'd say that the CBC is somewhat justified in being weary of his on-camera tirades.

As far as Canada being more strict as to what is seen or heard, I'm inclined to disagree. TSN may not show women getting beat up on RAW - But the CBC, Showcase, W, CTV and countless other networks frequently air questionable content.
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#20 Posted on 14.7.04 1416.44
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    Originally posted by raygun
    As far as Canada being more strict as to what is seen or heard, I'm inclined to disagree. TSN may not show women getting beat up on RAW - But the CBC, Showcase, W, CTV and countless other networks frequently air questionable content.


As questionable as in the U.S.? Do they show naked asses and people calling each other assholes (i.e. an episode of NYPD Blue)? (I'm not being sarcastic here...)

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