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#1 Posted on 19.5.03 1015.09 Reposted on: 19.5.10 1020.40
There seems to be enough enough interest to keep posting these, but I am slowing down to 1-2 per week. I'm also going to try and add some more commentary.
Starting with the AL Central, and the Pale Hose:
C- Carlton Fisk. It seems weird to put the same player as the 'All Time' for two teams around since 1901, but it comes down to Fisk or Ray Schalk. Schalk has Fisk in terms of years, but he wasn't nearly the hitter that Fisk was.
1B- Frank Thomas. The White Sox have been horrible at first until recently- Konerko is probably the second-best first basemen in their history.
2B- Nellie Fox. To be honest, I'm torn here. Nellie or Eddie Collins? Collins was the better player, but he spent half of his career in Philadelphia. I'm going with Nellie, but I'm still not positive.
SS- Luke Appling. Aparicio was a better fielder, Appling was a better hitter.
3B- Robin Ventura. Another position the White Sox doesn't have a great track record with. It's him or Willie Kamm, and Robin had a season with more home runs than Willie Kamm did in his career.
LF- Shoeless Joe Jackson. Shoeless Joe only played for the White Sox for five years- but in those five yers, he was incredible.
CF- Fielder Jones. CF for the White Sox at the turn of the century. The White Sox have a ton of guys who played CF for 5-7 years (Chet Lemon, Lance Johnson, Johnny Mostil), all good but none great. Damned if I can figure out which one deserves to be here.
RF- Minnie Minoso. An underrated player, and probably the best outfielder in White Sox history. Did everything well.
DH- Harold Baines. Just an outstanding hitter.
SP- Ed Walsh. Most of the pitchers are from the first half of the century, but they stuck with the White Sox forever.
SP- Red Faber.
SP- Billy Pierce.
SP- Ted Lyons. Not sure if Eddie Cicotte should be here instead, but Ted pitched almost 2000 more innings for the White Sox.
RP- Roberto Hernandez. Thigpen had one great year, but Hernandez had more good years for the White Sox. Wilbur Wood was half a starter, half a reliever.
Manager- Al Lopez. Lopez and Jimmy Dykes are the only men to manage the White Sox for more than 10 seasons- and Lopez took them to the World Series.
#2 Posted on 19.5.03 1208.08 Reposted on: 19.5.10 1209.51
Hell, I don't know HOW wilbur wood doesn't make it on the starting staff and Hoyt Wilhelm as the relief pitcher. Woody started 225 games in 5 seasons between 71 and 75 and won 106 of them while losing an amazing 99 decision. That is 205 decisions in 225 games!!! He only had 3 relief appearances in those years. Prior to that, yes, he was Hoyt's replacement at short relief. During that amazing 5 year stretch, he pitched an unbelievable 1780+ innings.
and I gotta put Bill Melton at 3rd. Guy had 154 homors for the Sox in his 8 seasons with them, in an era when homers were low. Ventura had a few more, but Beltin' Bill was more intergal to the team.
and heck, I am as big a fan of Fisk as anyone, but Sherm Lollar's right up there too.
and plus, you got maybe the greatest DH in the history of the sport, Harold Baines