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#1 Posted on 13.10.09 1252.46
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All games on (image removed)

Official start times have not been released yet. The below (Eastern) starting times were pulled from the Yahoo! TV listings. I’ll update them if they change.

EDIT: Starting times (first pitch) have been announced.

(image removed) LOS ANGELES ANGELS OF ANAHEIM VS (image removed) NEW YORK YANKEES

Best of 7

Gm 1 LAA @ NYY Fri 10/16 7:57 p.m.
Gm 2 LAA @ NYY Sat 10/17 7:57 p.m.
Gm 3 NYY @ LAA Mon 10/19 4:13 p.m.
Gm 4 NYY @ LAA Tue 10/20 7:57 p.m.
Gm 5* NYY @ LAA Thu 10/22 7:57 p.m.
Gm 6* LAA @ NYY Sat 10/24 4:13 p.m.
Gm 7* LAA @ NYY Sun 10/25 8:20 p.m.

* if necessary

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I did not know that these two have never played a best-of-seven before.

If this postseason is all about reversals of fortune, then the Yankees win this one, right? The Yanks and Angels split the season series 5-5, and both are sporting 5.00+ ERAs against each other. This should be fun.

C.C.’s next hurdle is two quality starts in a postseason series.

Bobby Abreu has now begun his quest to destroy his two former teams.

Wow, this is hard to pick.

NYY in 7


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#2 Posted on 13.10.09 1303.21
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{ Combined with other thread - CRZ }

The NLCS is a rematch of last year's, where the Phillies outlasted the Dodgers in five games en route to the WS win. The ALCS will see a rematch from the 2002 and 2005 Divison Series, each won by the Angels.

The homefield advantage actually works out great (says the guy in the Central Time Zone) as the games will stagger and be played one early, one late on the days when there are two games.

No predictions from me because I'm awful at them, but I'd like to see a Phillies/Angels World Series.

(edited by CRZ on 13.10.09 1432)
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#3 Posted on 13.10.09 1450.21
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Angels in 6. PLEASE BELIEVE IT!

They'll go on to face the Dodger's (let's say 7) in the World Series just because the MLB rolled back the World Series weeknight start time to 4:57pm PT - because God laughs when you make a plan.


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#4 Posted on 13.10.09 1704.11
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Yankees in 7.
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#5 Posted on 14.10.09 1042.23
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Mo + Hughes + Joba + Coke + Robertson = Yanks in 5.
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#6 Posted on 14.10.09 1233.38
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Angels in a long, exhausting 7. The Angels and Dodgers meet in the Freeway World Series that'll make baseball fans across the country want to gouge out their eyes more than the Yankees/Mets World Series of 2000.

The real winners are the fans...of Los Angeles.
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#7 Posted on 14.10.09 1332.19
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Yankees in a very tough 6.
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#8 Posted on 18.10.09 0218.36
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Thanks a lot, Brian Fuentes, for proving that you are who I thought you were. I knew going into extras that A-Rod would kill us and he didn't fail. Why Fuentes would go with a third straight fastball is baffling.

Needless to say, if the Yanks win Game 3, they've got a sweep on their hands.
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#9 Posted on 18.10.09 0405.58
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Yeah, Fuentes coughed up the A-Bomb but the fault lies in the defense, IMO. Why Izturis felt the need to try to a double play at that point is a mystery to me. Just get the out at first and get the next batter out. Between this and the non-catch between Figgins & Aybar that let the Yanks open up their lead against Lackey early on, the Angels gloves have been letting them down. Still, it was a fun game to watch despite how long it went and how ugly the weather got at the end.
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#10 Posted on 18.10.09 0857.44
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    Originally posted by It's False


    Needless to say, if the Yanks win Game 3, they've got a sweep on their hands.







It would never happen, but how sweet/hysterical it would be if lightning struck again on the Yankees with a 3-0 lead.



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#11 Posted on 18.10.09 1018.56
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    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
    Yeah, Fuentes coughed up the A-Bomb but the fault lies in the defense, IMO. Why Izturis felt the need to try to a double play at that point is a mystery to me. Between this and the non-catch between Figgins & Aybar that let the Yanks open up their lead against Lackey early on, the Angels gloves have been letting them down.


99% of the time Izturis will make that play. I think his biggest fault was not realizing that it was inning 12 and not inning 6, and that, at that point, playing it safe was a smarter move.

The real let down is the hitting. The Angels had way too many opportunities to score, and just couldn't pull the trigger on any of them. Even though the game ended with more hits for the Yankees, the Angels had 16 men LOB compared with the Yankees 12. Some of our biggest hitters have been way too quiet.

And that Neighborhood Play non-call was infuriating. They'll call that an out in my crappy co-ed league.

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#12 Posted on 19.10.09 1700.08
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    Originally posted by Leroy
    And that Neighborhood Play non-call was infuriating. They'll call that an out in my crappy co-ed league.
Funny, each time I see that play called, I am happy - giddy, almost, no matter what team it's called against. The "neighborhood play" seems so full of shit to me, and umpires should be taken to task for letting that go so often that a correctly called play makes for crying and gnashing of teeth.
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#13 Posted on 19.10.09 1727.05
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    Originally posted by jfkfc
      Originally posted by Leroy
      And that Neighborhood Play non-call was infuriating. They'll call that an out in my crappy co-ed league.
    Funny, each time I see that play called, I am happy - giddy, almost, no matter what team it's called against. The "neighborhood play" seems so full of shit to me, and umpires should be taken to task for letting that go so often that a correctly called play makes for crying and gnashing of teeth.


AMEN!

As an umpire, I find it funny how coaches scream about this one but will just as quickly scream if they think the 1st baseman was even a nanometer off the bag on a close play at first. As I told a coach after I ran him last year, you can't have it both ways.

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#14 Posted on 19.10.09 2146.28
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    Originally posted by jfkfc
    Funny, each time I see that play called, I am happy - giddy, almost, no matter what team it's called against. The "neighborhood play" seems so full of shit to me, and umpires should be taken to task for letting that go so often that a correctly called play makes for crying and gnashing of teeth.


Frankly, I think it should be an official rule one way or the other so that there's no debate. I like the "neighborhood play", as I think it makes the game a little more exciting, but I don't care enough to fight to keep it.

And just don't use a potentially pivotal play in the extra innings of either LCS as the deciding moment to challenge convention.

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#15 Posted on 19.10.09 2245.08
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    Originally posted by Leroy
    Frankly, I think it should be an official rule one way or the other so that there's no debate. I like the "neighborhood play", as I think it makes the game a little more exciting, but I don't care enough to fight to keep it.



The rulebook on mlb.com is for a .pdf to download, so I can't be bothered to find an appropriate link, but I promise you there is an official rule that says a fielder must touch the base while possessing the ball in order for a runner to be forced out. That umpires have come to ignore the rule doesn't change the fact that there's already a rule and is in fact the problem.

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#16 Posted on 19.10.09 2311.00
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    That umpires have come to ignore the rule doesn't change the fact that there's already a rule and is in fact the problem.


Actually, it does change that very fact. That's precisely the point. Umpire convention that's inconstant with the rulebook and results in confusion needs to be clarified in the rulebook. That's a main reason for *having* a rulebook.

I'm willing to bet there's all sorts of things that are in the MLB rulebook that occur far less frequently and are far less significant than a neighborhood play. So why can't there be a specific rule that eliminates confusion on this one fairly frequent situation?



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#17 Posted on 19.10.09 2319.14
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    Originally posted by Leroy
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      That umpires have come to ignore the rule doesn't change the fact that there's already a rule and is in fact the problem.


    Actually, it does change that very fact. That's precisely the point. Umpire convention that's inconstant with the rulebook and results in confusion needs to be clarified in the rulebook. That's a main reason reason for *having* a rulebook.

    I'm willing to bet there's all sorts of things that are in the MLB rulebook that occur far less frequently and a far less significant than a neighborhood play. So why can't there be a specific rule that eliminates confusion on this one fairly frequent situation?




If a rule that says a fielder must touch the base to record the out doesn't resolve the question of whether or not a fielder must touch the base to record the out, then I don't know what rule ever will.

The problem is in shitty umpiring and players and fans coming to accept it. The only change to the rulebook that would be at all useful is if the rulemakers decided to cater to the shitty umpiring and change the rule to say fielders don't have to touch the base to record an out. But that opens a million questions, one of which is obviously most important: How close does the fielder have to be?

EDIT: Other relevant rules would be those that do more to protect the fielder from the sliding runner.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 20.10.09 0035)
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#18 Posted on 20.10.09 1111.49
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Man, there have been some nail biters in this series so far. I had the Yankees up 2-1 by game 3 either way, so this is no surprise. Prediction: Sabathia wins game 4, Angels take game 5, Yanks wrap it up at home, in game 6. The Yankee bats have to wake up a little. I didn't realize until yesterday how poorly the team (besides A-Rod and Jeter) have been hitting. I will say that Girardi's frequent substitutions bit him in the ass yesterday.
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#19 Posted on 20.10.09 1309.21
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    Originally posted by Leroy
    Frankly, I think it should be an official rule one way or the other so that there's no debate. I like the "neighborhood play", as I think it makes the game a little more exciting, but I don't care enough to fight to keep it.

    And just don't use a potentially pivotal play in the extra innings of either LCS as the deciding moment to challenge convention.
I wasn't trying to use a pivotal play in a big spot as the deciding moment to challenge convention, but I see what you're saying. Perhaps you could also not use said play to challenge the rulebook. If it's in the rulebook (as TheBucsFan noted), then as you said, there's no debate.

Great series, though the Yanks have hit like crap with RISP, and Joe Girardi should stop trying to channel his inner Tony LaRussa - unless he's actually getting a 7 figure bonus per pitching change made. Jepsen....wow, that dude can bring it!
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#20 Posted on 20.10.09 1500.06
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    Originally posted by jfkfc
    I wasn't trying to use a pivotal play in a big spot as the deciding moment to challenge convention, but I see what you're saying.


And I meant "you" in the global sense of the word, not "you" as in... you. :)
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