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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
I think they must've known/decided this was the last season before writing last week's show. Last week, and this week more so, they're emptying the folder of Story Ideas We Wanted To Do But Never Could. Chloe as leader of CTU is an inspired one, one that probably wouldn't work for a full season (how can she clear the sockets if she's ordering people around?) but is bunches of fun for 8 hours. Bringing back Charles Logan is another. Utterly and totally devastating Jack was apparently also on the list.

I could not believe they would kill Renee. I could not believe it when they were giving me every single hint she was dead. I could not believe it when the nurse dejectedly left the emergency room. 24 is a show built on major deaths, then later tore down by major deaths. Curtis' death was the one for me where I stopped caring quite as much about the characters, because they were being so pointlessly slaughtered. Renee was just as pointless a death. Jack will find out the identity of the sniper within 30 minutes next week, and Renee's death is only going to slow it down by how much time it takes Jack to get back to CTU. If Renee lived or was never shot, Jack still would've gotten back into the case. Renee's death is just an excuse to make him mad, and I should be just mad at the show for being so cheap again.

I was, for a bit. But - I can't give a definite explanation, but as cheap and sensationalized as Renee's death was, it's still hit me, where as Hasaan's death didn't mean all that much. Maybe going so over the top, following another major death to make you believe they couldn't possibly do it again was the key. Maybe I'm especially a sucker tonight. That's a definite explanation.

(also on that list: "let's clock Jack's lovemaking skills!" Not a one minute man.)



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.17
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Chloe as leader of CTU is an inspired one, one that probably wouldn't work for a full season (how can she clear the sockets if she's ordering people around?) but is bunches of fun for 8 hours.


If Chloe was full-time boss of CTU, she wouldn't argue with Jack, she'd follow his advice from the get-go, and the show would be called 3.
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I've really liked the last two weeks, even though they contained recycled plotlines and things of that nature. This is after being nearly bored to death all season.

Two silent clocks in a row? I guess that's when they REALLY mean it. That hasn't been done before. Renee was a good addition to the show, but I'll admit that I was kind of hoping that she was a gonner. Not because I didn't like her, but because Jack really hasn't been effected by anything in a long, long time and they needed to give his character a shot in the arm.

I agree that Chloe as head of CTU is really a sign that this is the end of the series. It's a great move to pull at the end. I'm sure they'll throw in some bullshit figurehead to mess with her, although I hope they hold back (since they've done that a million times with guys like Chappelle) and have fun with it, making it more about Chloe suddenly having responsibility thrust upon her.

The Logan-Taylor scene was pretty cool. I really hope they juxtapose it with the Palmer-Logan stuff from Season 4, which it looks like they're doing. It would be awesome if Taylor, at the end, tells Logan that he "played a role."
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I think we need that president right before Taylor (who pardoned Logan? How retroactively convenient!) to come back, swig some bourbon and say "told ya so, honey." (I am probably misremembering)

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.17
    Originally posted by CRZ
    I think we need that president right before Taylor (who pardoned Logan? How retroactively convenient!) to come back, swig some bourbon and say "told ya so, honey." (I am probably misremembering)

    (edited by CRZ on 13.4.10 1301)


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
The pardon threw me too. I thought I forgot about something and had to track it down on wikipedia to find out it was nothing.

If you're looking to be weirded out by a discussion of this episode, please read this interview. Representative sample:


    I thought it was interesting that you cut away from Jack and Renee for two whole acts after they started making love. Did a lot of thought go into how long it takes Jack Bauer to make love to a woman?

    GORDON: Oh absolutely. And, by the way, Jack and Renee were not by any means done. I think this was probably closer to Round 1. I mean, he was just getting a glass of water. So yes, we were very sensitive about it because it’s a very sensitive thing. We really wanted to do it as tastefully and virile-y as possible for a man like Jack Bauer.


I thought I was making a joke. Guess not!

(edited by thecubsfan on 13.4.10 1552)


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Yeah but on the other hand, they had to last AT LEAST as long as Tarin and Kayla (but, somehow, not get as sweaty as they did - hey, that explains all the THIRST actually).

I guess what REALLY threw me was that they didn't immediately collapse and fall asleep before getting to the nasty, 'cause them dudes are OLD, am I right?

So what I'm really saying is that I too have thought about this more than I would care to admit.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
This is the first actual in-story love scene that we've seen Jack get in the entire series, right? Hell, let the man have his 20-25 minutes, he's waited long enough!

Boy, did I ever love seeing Charles Logan return. I'd forgotten how much I hated that son of a bitch. His neck has become even more froglike in two years. I loved President Taylor's "you'll forgive me if I don't accept your endorsement" smackdown of Logan's toady.

Sooo, uh, they're still going to deal with Dana at some point, right? Surely Ortiz can't just slough it off as just part of a rough day? And how cold was Jack in just shaking his hand and being "Welp, see you on the flip side, kid" and taking off? He at least could've shared a moment of condolence given that Jack has been through the exact same thing with Nina.
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