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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
Ok, calling Tebow an idiot is harsh. I take that back. The "idiot" label needs to be kept strictly for the media folk at ESPN and other sports journos that are trying to humor the masses and continue to play up the religious aspect of this, as if God gives one damn about the result of a football game. As a religious man, this is downright insulting to me.

I don't fault Tebow for being a religious guy. It's hardly a new phenomenon. But when the media is playing up that part of him to the point that they make Tebow into a one-dimensional persona, it's aggravating. And to insinuate that this aspect of his CHARACTER is the reason he's winning is an insult. He's winning because of a good supporting cast and because he has that intangible that allows him to come through at the right time. It has NOTHING to do with religion, no matter how much the talking heads try and tell me so. The 316 yards thing just put me over the edge, because I know that's going to be hammered into my head REPEATEDLY over the next week by REAL idiots like Chris Berman and the like.

Having said that, I still hope Brady crushes him next week.

EDIT: You are not making things better, Huffington Post! Stop it! Stop it right now!

(edited by It's False on 9.1.12 1250)

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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by kwik
    As far as Tebow goes, he did have a good game, but, and I always know this is how it goes, and it goes in the book as a 80-yard TD pass, and all that, and it sounds great for the story, but that was all Demaryius Thomas.


I don't think that's fair. It wasn't a perfect throw from Tebow, but it was one of his best of the game. If he threw that ball at Thomas' feet or a yard behind him like Tebow is wont to do, it's at best a 15- or 20-yard gain, but it could have easily been picked with three defenders in the vicinity. The throw was a bit high, but Tebow hit him in stride as Thomas was running into a wide open field. It was a great play by both guys.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.29
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by It's False
      And of course Tebow threw for 316 yards. Because there aren't enough gullible chuckleheads that believe that this nonsense is somehow INSPIRED BY GOD!!! PRIASE JEEBUS!!!

      I hope Brady destroys this idiot next week, once and for all.


    Tebow is awesome/hilarious

      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      as a Rapelesberger hater, I am glad they got beat.


    the zing is to call him Rapeless? I don't get it

I think he was going for Rapistberger.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.80
Tebow might be good in the future but he's very erratic, now. The performance on Sunday was helped out by a lack-luster Steelers offence and a pretty decent Broncos defence, but he still only was about 10 for 21. I think that down the line he'll be a good quarterback but the media is definitely over-hyping him a tad.

I can't see him hanging in the game with an offence like the Patriots this week.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.01
Teabow beat a defense that was missing a bunch of starters and had a referee crew that refused to throw the flag on holding against them. Even with that, the Steelers came back from 14 points down to tie it and almost win it. Also if the Steelers had won does anyone think they could have beaten the Pats with about 5 to 7 missing starters and a one legged QB. Teabow should enjoy it now, because I doubt CNN is going to put a picture of him praying again on the main page next week. Also, if Harrison is going to get a penalty for pushing Teabow then at least go for the head or knee, make it worth it.

(edited by lotjx on 9.1.12 0835)


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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.57
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    Tebow might be good in the future but he's very erratic, now. The performance on Sunday was helped out by a lack-luster Steelers offence and a pretty decent Broncos defence, but he still only was about 10 for 21.
Yeah, but it's not entirely fair to judge a QB like Tebow based purely on passing stats, and that "10 of 21" is suffixed by "for 316 yards, a TD and no INTs", which isn't shabby. He's overhyped for sure, but there's also a sizable camp of folks doing what they can to diminish what success he's had.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    Teabow should enjoy it now, because I doubt CNN is going to put a picture of him praying again on the main page next week.

He could be on the homepage of every bloody site on the internet and you still wouldn't be able to spell his name.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
    Originally posted by dMr
      Originally posted by wannaberockstar
      Tebow might be good in the future but he's very erratic, now. The performance on Sunday was helped out by a lack-luster Steelers offence and a pretty decent Broncos defence, but he still only was about 10 for 21.
    Yeah, but it's not entirely fair to judge a QB like Tebow based purely on passing stats, and that "10 of 21" is suffixed by "for 316 yards, a TD and no INTs", which isn't shabby. He's overhyped for sure, but there's also a sizable camp of folks doing what they can to diminish what success he's had.

      Originally posted by lotjx
      Teabow should enjoy it now, because I doubt CNN is going to put a picture of him praying again on the main page next week.

    He could be on the homepage of every bloody site on the internet and you still wouldn't be able to spell his name.


Oh well.



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.80
    Originally posted by dMr
    Yeah, but it's not entirely fair to judge a QB like Tebow based purely on passing stats, and that "10 of 21" is suffixed by "for 316 yards, a TD and no INTs", which isn't shabby. He's overhyped for sure, but there's also a sizable camp of folks doing what they can to diminish what success he's had.


That's true, too. I do think he has the tools to be a good quarterback, I just worry that pushing him out this soon instead of letting him grow into the role will do more harm then good.

If he loses next week, what happens then? Do they lose confidence in him and bench or cut him? I hope that they continue to develop and give him the tools to succeed and not just cut their losses and press the panic button, should he not make it on Saturday.

(Of course, as a Patriots fan, I'd love to see him lose on Saturday for obvious reasons but I still think it will be a good game ;))
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They just mentioned on First and Ten that the rating for the final quarter of the Denver game was...wait for it...31.6
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Also, except for D-Thomas, Tim Tebow has the WORST set of receivers for an alleged passing attack since TFB was throwing passes to the likes of Reche Caldwell. I can't believe they actually improved passing after Decker got hurt.



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.57
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    If he loses next week, what happens then? Do they lose confidence in him and bench or cut him? I hope that they continue to develop and give him the tools to succeed and not just cut their losses and press the panic button, should he not make it on Saturday.

He's an odd case, because in some ways the bar seems to be set pretty low for him when people are grading how he's done. He's a first round pick in his second season in the league so big things normally would be expected from him. Regardless of what else he brings to the table, failing to crack a 50% completion rate most Sundays isn't something that should escape criticism yet there are those who already seem to think he's the next big thing.

OTOH, he does bring other stuff to the table, wins most weeks and does it despite the pressure of being one of the most talked about QBs in the league.

I'm probably in the same camp as you in terms of his talent. I think he *could* go on to be a very good QB, but he isn't there yet.

Mostly I just find it funny that someone who's fun to watch and is, by all accounts, a thoroughly decent guy attracts so much hate from people in the nuttier reaches of the internet.

    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    Of course, as a Patriots fan, I'd love to see him lose on Saturday for obvious reasons but I still think it will be a good game ;))
I'm thinking it'll be Pats by a landslide, but if you'd asked me yesterday I'd have said the Steelers would've won comfortably as well. Which is to say listening to my predictions on sports is often less than smart.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Also, except for D-Thomas, Tim Tebow has the WORST set of receivers for an alleged passing attack since TFB was throwing passes to the likes of Reche Caldwell. I can't believe they actually improved passing after Decker got hurt.

I'd say that Eddie Royal is a lot better than his 2011 stats show. Daniel Fells (TE) is okay, but not a superstar or anything.

But the rest? Virgil Green, Matthew Willis and Dontae Rosario are definitely not the old Redskins' Posse.

Tebow can lose and lose badly next week...and he'll still be the QB for Denver, next season. Guys with better stats and pedigrees (Griese, Plummer, Cutler, Orton, etc) haven't garnered as much attention as Tebow has this year.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
hansen9j shared this link on Twitter a few days ago, it seems worth heeding regarding Tebow:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/136856133.html


    Green Bay - As the finished product, Aaron Rodgers has played quarterback better than anyone else in the National Football League for the last year and a half.

    Those who have watched Rodgers on a regular basis simply have grown accustomed to a standard of excellence that is at the forefront of the Green Bay Packers' drive to a second straight championship.

    Pro football is all about the quarterback, and the Packers are all about Rodgers.

    At 28, Rodgers is at the peak of his physical powers. He is the complete quarterback. He has no discernible weakness.

    For Rodgers to be in this place, on the cusp of becoming the NFL's most valuable player, when it is remembered where he was earlier in his career is almost unfathomable.

    Last week, I spent a full day poring over practices files, game notes and a large assortment of interviews in an attempt to offer some perspective on the career of Rodgers in Green Bay.

    If someone had asked after his first season whether Rodgers had a better chance to be a star or a bust, I might have answered bust. Many personnel people probably would have, too.

    As a rookie, Rodgers' six substantial outings included a scrimmage against Buffalo, four exhibition games and the fourth quarter of a December night game in Baltimore.

    He was brutal every time out.


It goes on to dissect flaws in Rodgers' mechanics, problems with pocket presence, and other stuff. Just a few years later, Rodgers is one of the three best quarterbacks in the game - THE best, in my opinion.

I'm obviously not saying Tim Tebow is going to be Aaron Rodgers - it's how crazy and unique Rodgers' turnaround is that makes him special. But it's not like nobody has ever gone from bad to good in the NFL, even at quarterback. It's unfortunate for Tebow that he is going to have to go from bad to good while playing full-time and doing it under a ton of scrutiny, but based on the column I just linked to, I think he probably has a better attitude for dealing with that than Rodgers did when he was drafted.

I'm still not sold on Tebow and, like I said, I still pick the Pats to crush them next week. But I have changed my mind and think it's worth it for the Broncos to keep him around as the starter heading into next year and see if he can make any progress.
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.82
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar

    If he loses next week, what happens then? Do they lose confidence in him and bench or cut him? I hope that they continue to develop and give him the tools to succeed and not just cut their losses and press the panic button, should he not make it on Saturday.


Tebow took over a 1-4 team, got them into the playoffs, and won a playoff game. He's also tremendously popular and sells a lot of merch.

He'll be their starting quarterback next season even if he goes 0 for 22, fumbles the ball away three times, and decks his coach with a chairshot.
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.95
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon

    Tebow took over a 1-4 team, got them into the playoffs, and won a playoff game. He's also tremendously popular and sells a lot of merch.

    He'll be their starting quarterback next season even if he goes 0 for 22, fumbles the ball away three times, and decks his coach with a chairshot.

I hate the Tebow narrative, so I've convinced myself that this win is just setting him up for greater failure in the future, when they sign him to a new five year contract and he regresses. I'm not sure if I actually believe that or if I'm just hoping really hard.
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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    I hate the Tebow narrative, so I've convinced myself that this win is just setting him up for greater failure in the future, when they sign him to a new five year contract and he regresses.


People's abilities don't typically regress...their statistics do. Like Tom Brady threw four interceptions in 2010...that was an unsustainable rate due to luck (dropped INTs and that sort of thing). He didn't become less skilled at avoiding throwing interceptions in 2011, he just didn't have as much luck go his way.

It seems to me that Tim Tebow is not necessarily on a lucky streak. Sure, he was very turnover-free for six or seven games and then a boatload of turnovers followed, but against New England and Buffalo the Broncos fell behind and he was forced to press forward in a way that makes the Broncos and their historically horrible WRs operate in a far less than ideal way. Against Kansas City...point out that Tebow played like crap, but don't you also have to point out that just two weeks earlier the probable NFL MVP ALSO played like crap against the Chiefs?

Maybe I was the only one that watched it, but in the 2010 Sugar Bowl Tebow led Florida against a less-talented-but-undefeated Cincinnati team. Tebow's line: 31-for-35, 482 yards, 3 TDs. This capped a college career where he threw 985 passes, completed 67.1% of them, with 88 TDs, and only 15 INTs. Clearly, the man knows how to operate a passing offense. He's not Eric Crouch or Jordan Jefferson by any stretch.

Looking back at those stats, the 15 INTs stand out to me. Perhaps Tim Tebow's greatest asset as a pass is that he is NOT a risk-taker with his arm. On nearly every one of his completions Sunday his receiver was WIDE OPEN by NFL standards. (The TD throw to Royal was a thing of beauty that any QB including Rodgers, Brees, and Brady would be proud of.) With one of his incompletions he hit Demariyous Thomas RIGHT IN THE HANDS on a slant that Thomas flat-out dropped, and several throw-aways among Tebow's ten other incompletions. Tebow's approach to passing seems to be "when in doubt, err in the direction of keeping it away from the defender" rather than "I will make this one in a million throw because I CAN."



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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.29
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      I hate the Tebow narrative, so I've convinced myself that this win is just setting him up for greater failure in the future, when they sign him to a new five year contract and he regresses.


    People's abilities don't typically regress...their statistics do. Like Tom Brady threw four interceptions in 2010...that was an unsustainable rate due to luck (dropped INTs and that sort of thing). He didn't become less skilled at avoiding throwing interceptions in 2011, he just didn't have as much luck go his way.

    It seems to me that Tim Tebow is not necessarily on a lucky streak. Sure, he was very turnover-free for six or seven games and then a boatload of turnovers followed, but against New England and Buffalo the Broncos fell behind and he was forced to press forward in a way that makes the Broncos and their historically horrible WRs operate in a far less than ideal way. Against Kansas City...point out that Tebow played like crap, but don't you also have to point out that just two weeks earlier the probable NFL MVP ALSO played like crap against the Chiefs?

    Maybe I was the only one that watched it, but in the 2010 Sugar Bowl Tebow led Florida against a less-talented-but-undefeated Cincinnati team. Tebow's line: 31-for-35, 482 yards, 3 TDs. This capped a college career where he threw 985 passes, completed 67.1% of them, with 88 TDs, and only 15 INTs. Clearly, the man knows how to operate a passing offense. He's not Eric Crouch or Jordan Jefferson by any stretch.

    Looking back at those stats, the 15 INTs stand out to me. Perhaps Tim Tebow's greatest asset as a pass is that he is NOT a risk-taker with his arm. On nearly every one of his completions Sunday his receiver was WIDE OPEN by NFL standards. (The TD throw to Royal was a thing of beauty that any QB including Rodgers, Brees, and Brady would be proud of.) With one of his incompletions he hit Demariyous Thomas RIGHT IN THE HANDS on a slant that Thomas flat-out dropped, and several throw-aways among Tebow's ten other incompletions. Tebow's approach to passing seems to be "when in doubt, err in the direction of keeping it away from the defender" rather than "I will make this one in a million throw because I CAN."

A couple of points:

1 - Comparing his college stats to pro expectations isn't the best way to go. He was able to pass to more-open receivers in college because the talent gap in college is wider than it is in the pros. A wider talent gap leads to more disparity in on-field performance.

2 - In watching replays of passes thrown during this past Sunday's game, I found myself noticing that approximately half of the passes thrown by Tebow didn't spiral tightly -- they fluttered in the air. That to me is an indication of poor mechanics. Correcting that COULD lead to a big increase in performance. It also might be a sign that he is too locked into his mechanics to make the change.

3 - KC's DBs were great in the game against the Packers. I assume a similar coverage against Denver. They were tough.

PS - Could "Tebow" get added to the spell checker?
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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.04
Im sure the boss here wouldnt want to hear it, but a harbaugh brothers super super bowl would be compelling.





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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by odessasteps
    Im sure the boss here wouldnt want to hear it, but a harbaugh brothers super super bowl would be compelling.




There are a lot of compelling possible stories:

Giants/Patriots Super-Bowl Rematch
Harbaugh Brothers as you mentioned
The Ravens trying to do what the Steelers couldn't - beat Green Bay (next best thing to beating the Steelers)
49ers/Patriots - the Belichek cheated by hiring McDaniels because he knew that he would be facing the 49ers ridiculousness
Packers/Patriots - last year's MVP vs this year's (presumed) MVP




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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.96
While I'm sure the media will focus on Tebow yet again, and I'm indifferent on him, as to why the Broncos lost, my thought goes to: Do the Broncos actually have any soul crushing, last second playoff losses in their history, except for that very weird AFC Title Game against the Bills in the early 90's? Almost every other time I can think of Denver getting bounced through the years it is a massacre, whether it be the the Morton year, Elway years, the Plummer/Griese years or the Tebow years.
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