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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    How hard is it to hand off to the RB? He'll be fine.
Well geez, if it's that easy to do, why would you use the 8th pick on him?

I spent the last part of the draft panicking because of the reports that the Packers were going to trade up to get Mark Ingram. It's goofy enough to draft a RB in the first round, since you can find good RBs anywhere in the draft (and beyond); it's mental to trade up to do so. (How happy are the Chargers to have moved up for Ryan Mathews last year, considering that their best and healthiest running back was Mike F'n Tolbert?) I couldn't believe it when the Saints ended up doing it, when their TWO best RBs last year were undrafted, while their high-priced first round pick RB has been a bust.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.01
    Originally posted by hansen9j
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      How hard is it to hand off to the RB? He'll be fine.
    Well geez, if it's that easy to do, why would you use the 8th pick on him?

    I spent the last part of the draft panicking because of the reports that the Packers were going to trade up to get Mark Ingram. It's goofy enough to draft a RB in the first round, since you can find good RBs anywhere in the draft (and beyond); it's mental to trade up to do so. (How happy are the Chargers to have moved up for Ryan Mathews last year, considering that their best and healthiest running back was Mike F'n Tolbert?) I couldn't believe it when the Saints ended up doing it, when their TWO best RBs last year were undrafted, while their high-priced first round pick RB has been a bust.


Reggie Bush has a ring, so I don't consider him a bust and was at least part of the reason they got there as well as won. I think it was done as a reactionary measure after Atlanta got Julio Jones. The sad part is both teams needed defensive players then they need offensive players.



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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    Yeah he played for a crap team, but it's not like his super accurate passes were getting dropped by terrible receivers. He was horribly inaccurate, made really bad decisions constantly and resorted to running too often(granted that last one can be blamed more on the team sucking). I saw him play a lot of games and never once said, "that looks like an NFL QB." If he turns into one, good for him. But I just don't see any reason to believe it will happen, and felt the same way before his horrible final college season when he was actually hyped by everyone.


Putting my Jake Locker-apologist-hat on...

I think it was ENTIRELY about being on a crap team. His receivers (I'm looking at YOU alleged-NFL prospect Jermaine Kearse) DID drop a ton of passes AND they got literally no production from the tight end, so his typical check-down guy was not the tight end, it was the sideline for a throwaway. His crappy line and his tendency to run AND seek out contact when running led to poor throws due to fatigue, not necessarily an innate lack of accuracy.

The thing is, he went to a team that was poorly coached and poorly recruited (besides #10) and ran a spread offense. Then all those crappy coaches got fired and they bring in a pro-style offense with lousy spread personnel. I think the fact that they got 12 wins in two years is a miracle.

I think in the end, for me, it is the game-winning drives to beat USC (twice), Oregon State, and Washington State that really have me sold on Jake's abilities to play in the NFL. He made some CRAZY great throws along with his "what are you thinking"-ones...I think with good coaching and talent around him he will thrive, and if he'd gone pretty much anywhere besides Washington (I think Texas was his other final choice) we wouldn't even be having a debate about it.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.02
    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by hansen9j
        Originally posted by StaggerLee
        How hard is it to hand off to the RB? He'll be fine.
      Well geez, if it's that easy to do, why would you use the 8th pick on him?

      I spent the last part of the draft panicking because of the reports that the Packers were going to trade up to get Mark Ingram. It's goofy enough to draft a RB in the first round, since you can find good RBs anywhere in the draft (and beyond); it's mental to trade up to do so. (How happy are the Chargers to have moved up for Ryan Mathews last year, considering that their best and healthiest running back was Mike F'n Tolbert?) I couldn't believe it when the Saints ended up doing it, when their TWO best RBs last year were undrafted, while their high-priced first round pick RB has been a bust.


    Reggie Bush has a ring, so I don't consider him a bust and was at least part of the reason they got there as well as won.


In a league that seems to have more 1000 yard runningbacks than starting positions, the second pick in the draft should probably be more than a 3rd down back and punt returner.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Reggie Bush has a ring, so I don't consider him a bust and was at least part of the reason they got there as well as won.
I could say the exact same things about Brandon Jackson, except BJax was a) taken in the second round, and b) has been outperformed by an undrafted player (Ryan Grant) and a sixth-round pick (James Starks), instead of two undrafted players. Reggie Bush < Brandon Jackson, via science.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
It was great to see Barry Sanders get a standing ovation (They even showed a guy in a Packers jersey applauding). And, they're still shitting on Roger Goodell.

Edit: NOW we can finally stop hearing about how Da'Quan Bowers wasn't drafted yet.




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