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Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune is reporting that Favre has been telling Viking officials that he is not returning this year, due to his ankle not co-operating.

Since that likely only means that this year's drama is just starting, let's get this thread rolling.

I will laugh and laugh if he simply does not return. He'll be the boy who cried wolf too many times and left the village with Tarvaris Jackson.



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Then again, this is the new prime candidate for solidifying the Patrick Ewing Theory (proxy.espn.go.com). The Vikes only have to make the Super Bowl. They don't have to win it.

Not that I'm hopeful of that, not with the Bears boasting Urlacher AND Peppers. But if Farve wanted to play again and stay relatively close to home, the Panthers could use an older QB to help Clausen develop.



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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Then again, this is the new prime candidate for solidifying the Patrick Ewing Theory (proxy.espn.go.com)


IMHO this is nothing like Ewing. Favre did win the Super Bowl during his career, after all. He also spent very little time in Minnesota (losing to the eventual Super Bowl winners), which is not nearly enough time to establish a trend.





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I'll only believe it when I see Jackson take that opening snap of the season for the Vikings. And then I will laugh and laugh and laugh as Minnesota goes 7-9.
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Favre maybe serious here fellas, Viks message boards are in full panic mode. Hey look at it on the bright side, JaMarcus Russell is still available.
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    I'll only believe it when I see Jackson take that opening snap of the season for the Vikings.

That still won't be good enough for me. The Vikings have an early bye week this season (Week 5, I think). If the Vikes are struggling, that would be pretty good timing for a return.

At this point when he finally does retire, it's going to be so anticlimactic because no one will accept it as true for several weeks after the fact.

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Welcome home, men of the 2nd Bn, 127th Infantry, 32d "Red Arrow" Brigade, WI Army National Guard! Job well done in Iraq!

(Several edits made as I get new info for y'all.)

I've already done satellite liveshots from Lambeau Field for ESPN "Outside the Lines" and ESPNEWS on this. Oy vey.

Zulgad's got a good summary article on the Minneapolis Star-Tribune website (it's already crashed at least once today.)

What we know:

* THE LATEST: WCCO sports director Mark Rosen says K Ryan Longwell spoke to Brett again, and Brett says he "doesn't know where all this is coming from."

* The Minnesota brain trust huddled up a couple times on the sidelines during practice today and seemed quite agitated.

* Vikings head coach Brad Childress calls the situation "fluid" and says he has NOT heard from Favre either way.

(EDIT: An AP article contradicts that, saying that an "anonymous person with knowledge of the situation" [remaining anonymous 'cause the Vikes hadn't made any official announcements] said that Favre DID call Childress and tell him he's retiring. So somebody's full of bull here.)

* Vikings players played dumb in the locker room after practice today...K Ryan Longwell (Favre's buddy from their Packer days) says he talked to Brett this morning, and Brett said nothing. (Granted, Childress had them huddled up midfield at the close of practice for quite some time.)

* The Vikes' front office is going into full-court-press mode, planning to throw more money and all the time Brett wants (which Childress was giving him anyway) to convince him to return for a 20th NFL season.

(EDIT: ESPN 1500's Tom Pelissero says here that Favre gets $13 million if he plays in 2010. He also says the Vikes' practice in recent years of deferring salaries could bite 'em in the butt if they wanna offer Favre more $$$...especially with a lockout looming in 2011.)

* Ooooh! As I typed this, an AP flash came across: TE Visanthe Shiancoe confirmed that other Vikings players have received texts from Favre saying he's retiring. (EDIT: Audio from Shiancoe talking to ESPN's Scott Van Pelt embedded in this article.)

* Brett's wife Deanna has re-upped her Minneapolis gym membership for all of 2010.

* An article in the Biloxi Sun-Herald says a Favre family member claims that Brett hasn't made a decision either way.

Here we go again...

(edited by The Thrill on 3.8.10 2020)





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    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      I'll only believe it when I see Jackson take that opening snap of the season for the Vikings.

    That still won't be good enough for me. The Vikings have an early bye week this season (Week 5, I think). If the Vikes are struggling, that would be pretty good timing for a return.

    At this point when he finally does retire, it's going to be so anticlimactic because no one will accept it as true for several weeks after the fact.

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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Well, if he misses Week 1, that ends his sacred consecutive games streak.

If he officially retires (i.e., files paperwork with the NFL) before the start of the season and then officially unretires later in the season, could an argument be made that the streak is still intact? He still wouldn't have missed any starts while being an active player...

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It might keep the streak intact, but its such a giant loophole and shitty thing to do I can see a lot of people saying since he didn't start all the games for the season, it's over. I think the NFL rules committee would love to have that on the table. I say he comes back in week two of the preseason and goes from there. Does he even know how silly this is or does he just not own a TV, radio or computer that shows his retirement as a joke. He did those brilliant Sears spots, so I am thinking he has to know. If this goes through Childress is going to look like the most naive coach of all time especially when McCoy and Clausen fell to them for a pretty good price in the draft. To me, I think its over and the ankle is worse then thought.
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Thank God I decided to stay home and do yardwork all day yesterday so I missed all of this crap until the 10 pm news. By then, it was pretty much downplayed to "Where the hell did this come from?" So far this morning on KFAN, it's been stated that this pretty much came from Visanthe Shiancoe stating that "another Viking got a text from Favre", but he won't clarify who it was. So basically it was this: "My barber's wife's cousin's uncle's neighbor's friend heard this......."

Honestly, when he doesn't come out onto the field for game one in New Orleans, I'll believe it then. Until then, nothing matters.

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Now, there's this:
http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/99841644.html?elr=KArksUUUycaEacyU

Sources say Vikings offering more green to keep Favre in purple
The Vikings are dangling an additional $7 million to keep Brett Favre with the team this season, NFL sources say.

By JUDD ZULGAD, Star Tribune

Brad Childress couldn't help himself. Thirteen questions into a rapid-fire post-practice news conference Tuesday morning, the Vikings coach slowed the pace. "I feel like this is Watergate," he said. "Have I done something wrong? Lord have mercy!"

Childress was paying the price for employing Brett Favre as his quarterback. Favre, who has officially retired twice and once had an advertising campaign built around his indecision, was at it again Tuesday.

After texting teammates and team officials that he was ready to call it quits, the star player issued no official statements from his compound in Hattiesburg, Miss., leaving the media scurrying, as usual, for clues to his next step.

According to NFL sources, the Vikings' pitch to bring back Favre now includes an offer that could pay him $20 million -- $16 million guaranteed, plus incentives potentially worth another $4 million. Favre was scheduled to make $13 million this season.

Vikings tight end Visanthe Shiancoe admitted Favre had "told a couple of guys on the team that he was going to retire," but the Biloxi (Miss.) Sun Herald reported an unnamed person close to Favre's family said he hadn't made a decision whether to play a second season with the Vikings.

Childress, caught in the middle, referred to the situation as "fluid" and said he was "not aware" of any retirement message sent by Favre.

Childress reiterated that he isn't pressing Favre for a decision and did not dismiss the possibility that Favre could return during the regular season.

Said Shiancoe after the Vikings' second practice of the hot, humid day: "[Favre] hasn't told me yet -- I'm going to check my phone right now -- but it hasn't been said publicly yet, so I don't know what to believe."

Favre began informing select Vikings officials on Monday night, according to multiple NFL sources, that his left ankle wasn't responding to the surgery he underwent in late May and that he was going to announce his retirement in a press release Tuesday.
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Bring on the prima donna bitching. Honestly, I don't give a shit. If he's going to play, why not get more for it? It's not like he hasn't made the Wilf's some cash in the past year.

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Welcome home, men of the 2nd Bn, 127th Infantry, 32d "Red Arrow" Brigade, WI Army National Guard! Job well done in Iraq!

UPDATE! (Now including link to ESPN.com story with video!)

* ESPN's Ed Werder says Favre told him if he's healthy, he'll play for the Vikes in 2010.

* Brett's agent, that schmuck Bus Cook, says Favre has an appointment with the Doctor to Vince's Superstars, Dr. James Andrews, next week.

* ESPN also says Favre DENIES sending text messages to Vikings personnel saying he's retiring (directly contradicting what Shiancoe said in my earlier post), and has not made a decision about his future, 'cause he's not sure about that ankle.

Ugh.

(edited by The Thrill on 4.8.10 1550)






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    Originally posted by The Thrill
    UPDATE!

    * ESPN also says Favre DENIES sending text messages to Vikings personnel saying he's retiring (directly contradicting what Shiancoe said in my earlier post), and has not made a decision about his future, 'cause he's not sure about that ankle.


as opposed to the texts he allegedly sent jenn sterger.



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Welcome home, men of the 2nd Bn, 127th Infantry, 32d "Red Arrow" Brigade, WI Army National Guard! Job well done in Iraq!

    Originally posted by odessasteps
      Originally posted by The Thrill
      UPDATE!

      * ESPN also says Favre DENIES sending text messages to Vikings personnel saying he's retiring (directly contradicting what Shiancoe said in my earlier post), and has not made a decision about his future, 'cause he's not sure about that ankle.


    as opposed to the texts he allegedly sent jenn sterger.


Yeah, no kidding. EPIC FACEPALM.

Here's that story from Deadspin. Ye Gods.







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Stephen A Smith just went on a Twitter rampage ...

    Originally posted by Stephen A Smith


    Brett Favre is so pathetic, it's sickening. Everyone's reporting his ankle is still hurting. Well, who the hell waited until JUNE to get the

    Damn thing operated on? This gy has played this game since 2002. He constantly leaves his teammates dangling in the wind. All because he

    Doesn't want to put in the work. He just wants to play on Sunday's. And this is acceptable behavior where he's concerned. The Vikings have

    Actually offered his trifling backside a $3 million raise, with another $4 mil in incentives to come back. This is damn sickening. If this

    Were anyone else it would not be tolerated. It's unbelievable he's been allowed to get away with this. And they call T.O. Or Ochocinco a

    Distraction. I don't want to hear that nonsense anymore. Favre has allowed everyone to get a pass. Can there be a more selfish teammate?

    And btw......I don't believe Favre's sorry butt is retiring. Not for one second. He'll be back. He's too selfish to stay away.


... Well said.


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Scott Hanson (host of NFL Red Zone) has had a couple pretty good tweets on Brett, too.

There are 2 types of ppl... Those who believe "Favre retiring" reports in early Aug... And those who paid attention the past 4 yrs.

Anyone who believes a "Favre is done" story is like a teenager standing over Freddy Krueger's motionless body.

At the Favre estate. Or, as I've come to know it, the Hattiesburg Waffle House. Reports on NFLN.




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    Originally posted by odessasteps
      Originally posted by The Thrill
      UPDATE!

      * ESPN also says Favre DENIES sending text messages to Vikings personnel saying he's retiring (directly contradicting what Shiancoe said in my earlier post), and has not made a decision about his future, 'cause he's not sure about that ankle.


    as opposed to the texts he allegedly sent jenn sterger.


That Deadspin story was sketchy enough in itself. Has Daulerio never heard of 'off the record' before? Doesn't sound like he actually got Sterger's permission to pass along the story.
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Stephen A Smith just went on a Twitter rampage ...

      Originally posted by Stephen A Smith


      Brett Favre is so pathetic, it's sickening. Everyone's reporting his ankle is still hurting. Well, who the hell waited until JUNE to get the

      Damn thing operated on? This gy has played this game since 2002. He constantly leaves his teammates dangling in the wind. All because he

      Doesn't want to put in the work. He just wants to play on Sunday's. And this is acceptable behavior where he's concerned. The Vikings have

      Actually offered his trifling backside a $3 million raise, with another $4 mil in incentives to come back. This is damn sickening. If this

      Were anyone else it would not be tolerated. It's unbelievable he's been allowed to get away with this. And they call T.O. Or Ochocinco a

      Distraction. I don't want to hear that nonsense anymore. Favre has allowed everyone to get a pass. Can there be a more selfish teammate?

      And btw......I don't believe Favre's sorry butt is retiring. Not for one second. He'll be back. He's too selfish to stay away.


    ... Well said.





I have several problems with this. First, Screamin A is worthless.
Second, is not "putting in the work" a detriment to his team in terms of wins and losses throughout his career? Is he significantly less sharp in the first few weeks of the season as opposed to the last few? From the past two seasons of watching him, (two is a decent sample size considering his age and the circus that happened each year) I don't remember seeing it. And how much "work" does a vet like Favre actually do at training camp? I'm pretty certain no one can say he suffers from a lack of conditioning given his streak of consecutive games started.
And finally, Chad Ochocinco and TO are distractions. So is Favre. But Favre isn't pulling out a Sharpie after a touchdown. Favre isn't putting on a fake Hall of Fame jacket and getting fined, repeatedly, for being an idiot. He's not telling you to get your popcorn ready, or throwing his team mates under the bus when things don't go his way, and then not producing when it matters most. And you bet your ass this crap wouldn't fly with TO, Ochocinco, or eight-tenths of the league. How many MVP's do Uno and Cinco have? Super Bowl rings? Of course the man only wants to play on Sundays. He's 40. And he just came off the best statistical season of his career. You know why this keeps happening? Because people keep making a story out of it and because he's never had any professional repercussions from his waffling. Is it right that this happens every year? Depends on how fired up you get over athletes not being able to make a decision. And in other news, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.



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