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2010 All-Star Rosters (hardballtalk.nbcsports.com)


    American League Starters

    C Joe Mauer
    1B Justin Morneau
    2B Robinson Cano
    3B Evan Longoria
    SS Derek Jeter
    OF Ichiro Suzuki
    OF Josh Hamilton
    OF Carl Crawford
    DH Vladimir Guerrero

    National League Starters

    C Yadier Molina
    1B Albert Pujols
    2B Chase Utley injured, will not play (Replacement is Martin Prado)
    3B David Wright
    SS Hanley Ramirez
    OF Ryan Braun
    OF Jason Heyward injured, might not play
    OF Andre Ethier

    AL Pitching Staff

    SP CC Sabathia
    SP Clay Buchholz
    SP Fausto Carmona
    SP David Price
    SP Phil Hughes
    SP Jon Lester
    SP Cliff Lee
    SP Trevor Cahill
    RP Neftali Feliz
    RP Mariano Rivera
    RP Matt Thornton
    RP Jose Valverde
    RP Joakim Soria

    NL Picthing Staff

    SP Roy Halladay
    SP Ubaldo Jimenez
    SP Josh Johnson
    SP Tim Lincecum
    SP Tim Hudson
    SP Adam Wainwright
    SP Chris Carpenter
    SP Yovani Gallardo
    RP Jonathan Broxton
    RP Arthur Rhodes
    RP Brian Wilson
    RP Evan Meek
    RP Matt Capps

    American League Reserves

    IF Ty Wigginton
    3B Adrian Beltre
    DH David Ortiz
    1B Miguel Cabrera
    OF Torii Hunter
    3B Alex Rodriguez
    SS Elvis Andrus
    2B Ian Kinsler
    3B Jose Bautista
    C John Buck
    OF Vernon Wells

    National League Reserves

    OF Chris Young
    IF Omar Infante
    C Brian McCann
    2B Martin Prado
    OF Marlon Byrd
    2B Brandon Phillips
    3B Scott Rolen
    OF Michael Bourn
    OF Corey Hart
    SS Jose Reyes
    1B Ryan Howard
    OF Matt Holliday
    1B Adrian Gonzalez


I'm annoyed as hell that Miggy Cabrera lost the vote to start at 1st Base. He leads Morneau in runs, home runs, and RBI. It just grates me that every time there's a deserving Detroit player in one of these popularity votes, they always end up losing.

On the other hand, I am surprised that Valverde got recognition at all. He has been completely un-hit-able the past few months. But, while we all know every team has to be represented, is Matt Thornton really the best White Sox that could've been chosen? He gets a spot over someone more deserving, like Rafael Soriano.




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It's absurd that Joey Votto is on the 'last man on the roster' vote. You can make a great case that he should be starting. In fact, if the Reds continue their success, he'll get a lot of MVP votes.

As a Jays fan, it's hilarious to see John Buck as an All-Star. First of all, he only plays about four games a week. Secondly, his presence on this team is solely because he had a ridiculous two-week stretch in May and his usual mediocre self for the rest of the season.

Congrats to Arthur Rhodes for the first All-Star appearance of his long career.
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    It's absurd that Joey Votto is on the 'last man on the roster' vote. You can make a great case that he should be starting.


I agree, that to me is the biggest absurdity of the all-star ballots. Votto is pretty much identical to Pujols in most stats and, while I have no problem with Pujols starting, Votto should absolutely be on the roster.

All the attention is going to the many emerging pitchers this year, but Votto is one of the breakout stars of this year and is a big part of the reason the Reds have been such a surprise. He's off to a pretty great start to his career - his numbers last year were pretty great too, but its his home runs and RBI that have jumped big time this season.



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Those Final Five choices

AL
Paul Konerko (CWS - 1B)
Nick Swisher (NYY - RF)
Kevin Youkilis (BOS - 1B)
Delmon Young (MIN - LF)
Michael Young (TEX - 3B)

NL
Heath Bell (SDP - RP)
Carlos Gonzalez (COL - CF)
Joey Votto (CIN - 1B)
Billy Wagner (ATL - RP)
Ryan Zimmerman (WAS - 3B)

Gonzalez would make sense Heyward's spot if/when he's replaced in this game, though I agree that Votto is more deserving.

Also, this year, any starting pitcher who scheduled to start the Sunday before the All Star game may be replaced.



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I can see why people might be upset that Strasburg wasn't named to the game, but Charlie Manuel's statement was very classy and it's hard to hold it against him. If he really IS that good, then he WILL be an All-Star for a long time.

With that said, I still don't rule him out for the game if one of the NL pitchers bow out or pitch on that Sunday.




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I don't understand why there are two pitchers on the NL Final Vote ballot, especially when the NL roster has 3 closers already. If one of them wins, wouldn't the AL complain about the NL carrying an extra pitcher?

I'm assuming 1 or 2 more players will be named to the NL team. Prado has already been moved up to starter, leaving an empty reserve spot. If Heyward doesn't start, someone on the reserves will have to, leaving another empty reserve spot.

Who starts at DH for the NL? Ryan Howard or Adrian Gonzalez?



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"He’s my guy. He’s my player. My guy."

Via Phillie beat writer Todd Zolecki, Charlie Manuel's explanation as to why he picked Ryan Howard instead of Joey Votto for the All Star Game.




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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

    Also, this year, any starting pitcher who scheduled to start the Sunday before the All Star game may be replaced.

At this time, CC Sabathia is the only pitcher who made the All-Star team who scheduled to start that Sunday. (I keep track of the rotation for every team so that I can find pitchers who make two starts for my roto league. http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtKaVXpzf0CgdE5WcTh0OUZKSHFVdTVqelhvM2tVSXc&hl=en )

Also, Clay Buchholz has been put on the DL, so he's presumably out of the All-Star game as well.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.09

Buchholz's dl stint should be retroactive to the 26th. So he may be eligible but the way this season has been going, I don't want any of the Red Sox players to go.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.93
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    "He’s my guy. He’s my player. My guy."

    Via Phillie beat writer Todd Zolecki, Charlie Manuel's explanation as to why he picked Ryan Howard instead of Joey Votto for the All Star Game.



That's fine by me. Howard, even though he may be less impressive than others this season, has proven himself as a all star name the past couple of seasons. He, like say Ripken in the late 90's or Griffey in the last couple of years, can afford to go in based on name alone. Besides, who says he isn't having a all-star year? He's still on pace for a 30 HR, 110 RBI season with one of the highest batting averages in his career. And that's with Rollins injured a lot of the season and the rest of the lineup struggling. It may not be as good as his previous seasons, but it still is as impressive as most players are ever going to have.

If anything, I have a much bigger problem with Manuel selecting Omar Infante (1 HR, 22 RBI) over Votto (19 HR, 57 RBI). I won't go as far as Yahoo (sports.yahoo.com) did in saying it was the worst AS pick ever, but overall I do agree it's as baffling a pick as any I have seen in a long time.






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As a Braves fan, I am glad to see Jason Heyward make the all-star team in his rookie season (though he may or may not play). I also think Troy Glaus is deserving of an all-star spot as well as him and Heyward have helped the Braves to their current position (but there are always all-star snubs in any all-star game in any sport and based on the roster selections for the most part, it is hard to argue against it).

Now, if they could only change the rules of the all-star game of the which league gets true home field advantage.
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Votto got screwed. The guy is one of the best players in the game and has gotten no love. He is right there with Wright and Gonzalez in the MVP race so far. Pelf is starting Sunday so he wouldn't be able to pitch anyway. Omar Infante on the team is a disgrace. In the American league Liriano and Weaver were snubbed.

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.48
    Originally posted by BoromirMark
    I'm annoyed as hell that Miggy Cabrera lost the vote to start at 1st Base. He leads Morneau in runs, home runs, and RBI. It just grates me that every time there's a deserving Detroit player in one of these popularity votes, they always end up losing.

Morneau is as good as Cabrera or better in nearly every stat you did not mention, and on top of that is a significantly better fielder. The fans got it right.




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.59
I'm sad to see that there will be no King Felix, and if the fans aren't going to be all goofy and vote Papi in why did the league?



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.55
    Originally posted by Joseph Ryder
    Morneau is as good as Cabrera or better in nearly every stat you did not mention, and on top of that is a significantly better fielder. The fans got it right.



Going into today's games:

Cabrera: .339 BA
Morneau: .344 BA

Cabrera: 1.048 OPS
Morneau: 1.051 OPS

His "lead" in these other categories are by the merest of fractions, while in the meantime Morneau trails behind in home runs and RBI. And while better defensively, it's not like Cabrera is a sieve out there. At the end of the day, only one of the two has a legitimate shot to win the Triple Crown this year: Cabrera.

No, the fans didn't get it right. They got it totally wrong.




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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.48
Morneau: 4.9 Wins Above Replacement
Cabrera: 3.2 Wins Above Replacement
[fangraphs]

Morneau's .447 wOBA is slightly better than Cabrera's .440. I'll just concede you this one and call them basically equal in terms of hitting value. In fact they rank 1-2 in the entire league.

But Cabrera has the worst UZR/150 in the entire league (among 1B) while Morneau has the best. This can be meaningful as they do spend half the game standing at first base with a glove on their hand.

This is in no way a snub, sorry.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.86
When I heard about Omar Infante, I figured that maybe to go with the increase in set-up relievers, an All-Star manager finally figured out that it may come in handy to have someone come off the bench and steal you a key base late in the game.. (what, the rosters are about 35 now?)

But before posting, I figured I should look up this guy's numbers, to see what made him a not-so-obvious choice.

Conclusion: Obviously Charlie Manuel shouldn't have done whatever he did in camera-phone range.



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Obviously Votto should be there. I know it's tough to decide which first basemen to carry but with a DH spot this year you can afford an extra 1B and leave off another player (Infante).

Besides Joey Votto being left out the biggest head scratcher to me were the choices for teams that must have a representative. Capps is there because he's second in a meaningless stat. An ERA over 3.00 is HORRIBLE for a closer. Josh Willingham should be there. It's nice that a middle reliever got noticed but Andrew McCutchen is the best player on the Pirates by miles and I would've chosen Oswalt over Bourne.

I don't think Heyward deserves to be an All-Star. He was great for the first six weeks but since then he hasn't been any better than the other rookies in the league, much less everybody else. But I understand that it's the fan's choice for the starters. If Heyward doesn't play there are a number of deserving players like Gonzalez, McCutchen Willingham and the Reds are just getting disrespected all around because Jonny Gomes is having a great season.

When I saw Brian Wilson I figured he was the Giants rep but then I saw Lincecum made it. Why Wilson is in over Billy Wagner and Heath Bell I don't know.

I know Yadier Molina is a great defensive catcher but I have a hard time voting in somebody batting .229. That's 12th out of the 12 catchers with 200 at-bats or more.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
    Originally posted by Joseph Ryder
    Morneau: 4.9 Wins Above Replacement
    Cabrera: 3.2 Wins Above Replacement
    [fangraphs]

    Morneau's .447 wOBA is slightly better than Cabrera's .440. I'll just concede you this one and call them basically equal in terms of hitting value. In fact they rank 1-2 in the entire league.

    But Cabrera has the worst UZR/150 in the entire league (among 1B) while Morneau has the best. This can be meaningful as they do spend half the game standing at first base with a glove on their hand.

    This is in no way a snub, sorry.

UZR isn't the end-all and be-all of defensive statistics, but in this case all the defensive statistics agree that Morneau is playing better defensively than Cabrera.
TotalZone has Morneau +11, DRS has him +7 (+ is good in both these stats, it represents runs saved defensively compared to an average player), and in a more basic stat, his range factor (Putouts+Assists) per 9 innings is 9.62 (league average 1B is 9.30).
TotalZone has Cabrera -3, DRS has him -6, and his range factor is 9.21 per 9 innings.

So UZR, TotalZone, and DRS have Morneau 12.9, 14, and 13 runs better than Cabrera defensively.

I agree that they're basically a wash offensively; I have both worth +31 runs.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.90
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by thecubsfan

      Also, this year, any starting pitcher who scheduled to start the Sunday before the All Star game may be replaced.

    At this time, CC Sabathia is the only pitcher who made the All-Star team who scheduled to start that Sunday. (I keep track of the rotation for every team so that I can find pitchers who make two starts for my roto league. http://spreadsheets.google.com/​ccc?​key=0AtKaVXpzf0Cgd​E5WcTh0OUZKSHFVdTV​qelhvM2tVSXc&​hl=en )

    Also, Clay Buchholz has been put on the DL, so he's presumably out of the All-Star game as well.
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