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|  #1 Posted on 27.1.10 1840.13 | Instant Rating: 7.59 | -The timeframe covers December to November.
-Some of the overall awards are available to both wrestling and MMA organizations.
LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD
(WRESTLER OF THE YEAR)
1. CHRIS JERICHO
2. Hiroshi Tanahashi
3. Naruki Doi
(Of note: this is Jericho's second consecutive win.)
MIXED MARTIAL ARTS MOST VALUABLE
1. BROCK LESNAR
2. Georges St. Pierre
3. Fedor Emelianenko
MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER
1. BRYAN DANIELSON
2. Davey Richards
3. KENTA
MOST OUTSTANDING FIGHTER OF THE YEAR
1. GEORGES ST. PIERRE
2. Anderson Silva
3. Jose Aldo Jr.
BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW
1. BROCK LESNAR
2. John Cena
3. Georges St. Pierre
FEUD OF THE YEAR
1. C.M. PUNK VS. JEFF HARDY
2. Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
3. Chris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio
TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR
1. EDDIE EDWARDS & DAVEY RICHARDS
2. Matt & Nick Jackson (Young Bucks, Generation Me)
3. Chris Jericho & Big Show
MOST IMPROVED
1. THE MIZ
2. Cody Rhodes
3. Kofi Kingston
(Of note, this is the Miz's second consecutive win.)
BEST ON INTERVIEWS
1. CHRIS JERICHO
2. C.M. Punk
3. Frank Mir
MOST CHARISMATIC
1. JOHN CENA
2. Jeff Hardy
3. Brock Lesnar
BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER
1. BRYAN DANIELSON
2. Kurt Angle
3. Davey Richards
BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD
(BEST BRAWLER)
1. NECRO BUTCHER
2. Samoa Joe
3. Masato Tanaka
BEST FLYING WRESTLER
1. KOTA IBUSHI
2. Evan Bourne
3. Dragon Kid
MOST OVERRATED
1. HHH
2. Team 3-D
3. Kane
MOST UNDERRATED
1. EVAN BOURNE
2. Christian
3. Jack Swagger
PROMOTION OF THE YEAR
1. Ultimate Fighting Championships
2. Dragon Gate
3. World Wrestling Entertainment
BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW
1. WWE SMACKDOWN
2. UFC Ultimate Fighter
3. Ring of Honor
WORKED MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. UNDERTAKER VS. SHAWN MICHAELS
2. Davey Richards vs. Shingo Takagi
3. KENTA vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima 3/1 Tokyo
(Of note, this is the fourth match at Wrestlemania to win; Savage/Steamboat, Michaels/Ramon, Austin/Hart.)
SHOOT MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. DIEGO SANCHEZ VS. CLAY GUIDA
2. Ben Henderson vs. Donald Cerrone
3. Mike Brown vs. Urijah Faber
(Of note, #5 Hideo Tokoro vs. Abel Cullum was AWESOME.)
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
1. FRIGHTMARE
2. Ricky Steamboat Jr.
3. Brutus Magnus
BEST NON-WRESTLER
1. VICKIE GUERRERO
2. Jim Cornette
3. Don West
BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
1. JIM ROSS
2. Matt Striker
3. Joe Rogan
WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
1. MICHAEL COLE
2. Jerry Lawler
3. Todd Grisham
BEST MAJOR SHOW
1. DRAGON GATE USA OPEN THE HISTORICAL GATE 7/25
2. UFC 100 7/11
3. Dragon Gate USA Open the Untouchable Gate 9/6
WORST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW
1. TNA VICTORY ROAD 7/19
2. WWE Breaking Point 9/13
3. Ultimate Chaos 6/27 Biloxi
BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER
1. YOUNG BUCKS MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK
2. Evan Bourne shooting star press
3. Kota Ibushi Golden Star press
MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC
1. PIGGY JAMES ANGLE
2. Vickie Guerrero being called a pig
3. Using the death of Jeff Hardy’s dog in the Hardy Boys angle
WORST TELEVISION SHOW
1. TNA IMPACT
2. WWE Raw
3. WWE ECW28
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. SHARMELL VS. JENNA MORASCA 7/19
2. HHH vs. Randy Orton 4/5
3. Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leitis 4/18
WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR
1. CHAVO GUERRERO VS. HORNSWOGGLE
2. HHH vs. Randy Orton
3. John Cena vs. Big Show
WORST PROMOTION OF THE YEAR
1. TNA
2. IWA Mid South
3. Combat Zone Wrestling
BEST BOOKER
1. JOE SILVA
2. Mike Quackenbush
3. Gedo & Jado
PROMOTER OF THE YEAR
1. DANA WHITE
2. Sanshiro Takagi
3. Vince McMahon
BEST GIMMICK
1. C.M. PUNK STRAIGHT EDGE SOCIETY
2. Pope D’Angelo Dinero
3. Yoshikawa
WORST GIMMICK
1. HORNSWOGGLE
2. Abraham Washington
3. Samoa Joe Nation of Violence
BEST PRO WRESTLING BOOK
1. MIDNIGHT EXPRESS 25TH ANNIVERSARY SCRAPBOOK BY JIM CORNETTE
2. Queen of the Ring (Mildred Burke) by Jeff Leen
3. Drawing Heat the Hard Way by Larry Matysik
BEST PRO WRESTLING DVD
1. MACHO MADNESS
2. Rise and Fall of WCW
3. Dragon Gate USA Open the Historic Gate
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| #2 Posted on 27.1.10 2100.20 | Instant Rating: 5.69 | I realize that WO is trying to expand their base to MMA fans, but shouldn't they just create totally separate categories for wrestling and MMA?
Kirk, crackers are a family food. Happy families. Maybe single people eat crackers, we don't know. Frankly, we don't want to know. It's a market we can do without. | hansen9j
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| #3 Posted on 27.1.10 2110.31 | Instant Rating: 7.59 | Originally posted by Big Bad
I realize that WO is trying to expand their base to MMA fans, but shouldn't they just create totally separate categories for wrestling and MMA?
When it matters, they do. (Brock Lesnar wasn't up for Brawler of the Year, for example.) But there isn't a significant difference in the charisma or drawing power of a wrestler vs a fighter. It was definitely weird to have Silva/Leites in competition with Sharmell/Jenna, I'll grant you.
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|  #4 Posted on 27.1.10 2115.23 | Instant Rating: 8.44 | | It used to be worse when there were no separate categories at all. | BoromirMark
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| #5 Posted on 27.1.10 2230.09 | Instant Rating: 2.82 | Originally posted by hansen9j
MOST OVERRATED
3. Kane
Uh.....what??? That's kinda out of nowhere. Dude barely even gets on television. I'd argue he's entirely underused and under-appreciated.
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| #6 Posted on 27.1.10 2237.35 | Instant Rating: 7.72 | Originally posted by BoromirMark
Originally posted by hansen9j
MOST OVERRATED
3. Kane
Uh.....what??? That's kinda out of nowhere. Dude barely even gets on television. I'd argue he's entirely underused and under-appreciated.
(edited by BoromirMark on 27.1.10 2330)
Ugh, I can't stand him. He's an instant channel-changer for me (except I have to cover Smackdown). Nothing he does in the ring is interesting in the slightest and he's gotten noticeably heavier and slower in recent years. He could be used to give some younger guys some big wins, but he's more often than not protected in matches for some reason. | Alex
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| #7 Posted on 28.1.10 0010.46 | Instant Rating: 3.29 | | Has Kane ever had a good match? | Tyler Durden
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|  #8 Posted on 28.1.10 1546.59 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | I'm sick and tired of Kane as well! And no, he IS on tv all the time! All the time! And sucks all of the time! He has to get a new gimmick .. or just go away!
Yes, I'm back! I know, I said I would never ever watch that crap again, but ... I just can't live without it, I guess. | Quezzy
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| #9 Posted on 28.1.10 1811.59 | Instant Rating: 3.45 | Originally posted by Alex
Has Kane ever had a good match?
There isn't one that comes to mind that is good because of him, but he did win one of the four team TLC Matches.
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THAT IS AWESOME! | lotjx
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| #10 Posted on 28.1.10 2024.13 | Instant Rating: 1.41 | Kane has had good moments like his introduction, saving Rock, Foley and Too Cool from a McMahon-Helmsley/Radicals beatdown, cutting his promo with Rock and Hogan. He is just a tough guy to follow without the mask now. Once that went away, he became another generic big man.
As for the awards, I am ok with most of it, but throwing in MMA is a bit much. MMA is a totally different world then wrestling. I am not a fan of it, but I understand why people are fascinated with the "real" fighting sport since boxing is dead. | Amos Cochran
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|  #11 Posted on 29.1.10 0546.38 | Instant Rating: 6.53 | | Kane's had a barrel of good matches against Angle, Benoit, Michaels, and a lot of okay matches where others would have stinkers. He's just gotten old. | dMr
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| #12 Posted on 29.1.10 0636.20 | Instant Rating: 6.14 | Originally posted by hansen9j
MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC
1. PIGGY JAMES ANGLE
2. Vickie Guerrero being called a pig
3. Using the death of Jeff Hardy’s dog in the Hardy Boys angle
Either this reflects the inoffensiveness of the PG-era or I'm growing abnormally cold-hearted, because I wouldn't describe any of these things as disgusting.
When it matters, they do. (Brock Lesnar wasn't up for Brawler of the Year, for example.) But there isn't a significant difference in the charisma or drawing power of a wrestler vs a fighter. It was definitely weird to have Silva/Leites in competition with Sharmell/Jenna, I'll grant you.
Yeah, I'd say it's silly to pool them for "Worst Match" honours. Pro wrestlers should entertain first and foremost, mixed-martial artists' only aim should be to win, so the criteria for judging 'best' and 'worst' should be different. Many of the MMA selections are also kinda dumb IMO, but that's another matter.
Originally posted by lotjx
I am not a fan of it, but I understand why people are fascinated with the "real" fighting sport since boxing is dead.
The death of boxing is greatly overstated. It might be struggling in the States, but in Europe (particularly Germany) either Klitschko could comfortably pull in tens of thousands of paying fans to watch them shadow-box for half an hour. Even in the US they'll likely smash PPV records as soon as they get Mayweather and Manny to sort out their differences.
"Not what it once was", yes. "Dead", no.
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|  #13 Posted on 29.1.10 0704.59 | Instant Rating: 6.28 | Originally posted by dMr
Originally posted by hansen9j
MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC
1. PIGGY JAMES ANGLE
2. Vickie Guerrero being called a pig
3. Using the death of Jeff Hardy’s dog in the Hardy Boys angle
Either this reflects the inoffensiveness of the PG-era or I'm growing abnormally cold-hearted, because I wouldn't describe any of these things as disgusting.
I can imagine #1 and #2 being called worst because the feuds were just stupid. Santino was not funny at that point.
And it just dragged on and on.
And the same goes (originally, i think they have salvaged it) for the Mickie/Piggy angle. However, this one is a bit more 'disgusting' because out of all the Divas that WWE has, Mickie is the closest to a real woman. She's still toned, tanned and pumped up, but not as plastic/skinny as the others (excluding beth) and it could give the wrong example (hah! wrestling? wrong examples? wow!)
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| #14 Posted on 29.1.10 0735.25 | Instant Rating: 6.14 | Originally posted by dMp
And the same goes (originally, i think they have salvaged it) for the Mickie/Piggy angle. However, this one is a bit more 'disgusting' because out of all the Divas that WWE has, Mickie is the closest to a real woman. She's still toned, tanned and pumped up, but not as plastic/skinny as the others (excluding beth) and it could give the wrong example (hah! wrestling? wrong examples? wow!)
Yeah, I guess it doesn't bother me because the crux of the feud was "asshole It Girls bullying perfectly beautiful but sensitive Mickie James" and it was always going to lead to Mickie giving them what for and standing up for "real women" at some point. It's hardly original storytelling (it's been played out a kajillion times on kids TV and teen-angst series) but it was never really the stuff of disgust.
And it goes without saying that I am shocked by your insinuation that professional wrestling shouldn't be considered a source of healthy role models for young folks seeking the body beautiful ;) | odessasteps
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| #15 Posted on 29.1.10 1501.56 | Instant Rating: 6.47 |
It's also weird in that Michelle McCool was once hospitalized for .... being too skinny (malnutrition?) a couple years ago.
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| #16 Posted on 29.1.10 1520.36 | Instant Rating: 7.06 | Originally posted by Amos Cochran
Kane's had a barrel of good matches against Angle, Benoit, Michaels
Maybe, but c'mon.Originally posted by dMr
Either this reflects the inoffensiveness of the PG-era or I'm growing abnormally cold-hearted, because I wouldn't describe any of these things as disgusting.
I have no problem with the Piggy James angle itself - one girl who's not fat says that another girl who's not fat IS fat, so they fight. That's fine. But the whole angle is really pretty obnoxious because (so the story goes) it was done to humiliate Mickie because she got too fat for WWE's liking. That sends an awfully bad message to her, to the other female wrestlers (one of whom, as noted, was hospitalized with an eating disorder not that long ago), and to the fans.
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