Just announced on NFL Network Fred Dean Darrell Green Emmett Thomas Art Monk Gary Zimmerman Andre Tippett Richard Dent, Andre Reed, Derrick Thomas and former Commissioner Paul Tagliabue and Ray Guy didn't make it.
Reed (who played his final year in DC in 2000) has the following career stats:
Receptions: 951 Yards: 13,198 TDs: 87 Pro Bowl selections: 7 Super bowl rings: 0 out of 4 games all with the Bills
Monk has: Receptions: 940 Yards: 12,721 TDs: 68 Pro Bowl selections: 3 Super bowl rings: 3 out of 4 games all with the Skins (he earned one of those rings despite not playing due to injury) He also caught at least 1 pass in 183 consecutive games, 2nd all time.
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I still think Ray Guy should get in. Greatest Punter Ever. However, I do understand how he keeps getting held out after hearing someone on Chris Myer's FOX radio who's on the voting committee the other day explaining that he is deserving, but he (the voter) would have a hard time putting Guy in over other deserving players who played every (or more) downs. If the rest of the voters think that way, he's going to have a real rough go of it with the deluge of sure things coming along.
Glad Monk finally made it. He was very deserving and now we won't have to listen to Steve Czaban whining about it on his FOX morning radio show ever again (even though I have a HUH-YUGE man crush on him, his Redskins-centric stuff gets old on occasion).
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Very glad to see Monk and Darrell Green get in, both well deserving, and as people have said, long overdue for Monk. Darrell Green was a given IMO, and I will always remember being able to see him play his last year in the game. Great guy.
Zimmerman was kind of a surprise. Not that I thought he didnt deserve to go in, but thought it might be a while for them to put him in. Well done.
Dean was before my time, Tippett I can't say I know much about, and Thomas I only know as a coach in the league. So congrats to them as well, I'm definitely disappointed Derrick Thomas didn't make it in.
DrewDeuce is right. Punters and kickers are by far the most disrespected people in sports. If a guy (no pun intended) is the best-ever at his position, then he deserves to be in the Hall. Case closed.
Here's the thing about Andre Reed --- there was no point when you could legitimately argue that Reed was the best three or four receivers in the NFL, let alone the best. I never thought of Reed as being one of the truly A-plus guys in spite of the fact that he put up some good numbers. I would keep him out.
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One of the biggest problems with the NFL HoF vote is that nearly everyone who makes the final eligible-to-vote-for list should be a HoFer.
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Originally posted by Packman V2I'm definitely disappointed Derrick Thomas didn't make it in.
Apparently the rationale is that Tippett and Dean and these guys would be lost in the shuffle with the strong incoming classes in the next few years, while the voters don't think Derrick Thomas will have the same problem. So they wanted to get these guys in while they could.
Andre Tippett: 100 sacks, 1 INT, 14 forced fumbles, 19 fumble rec., 2 touchdowns, 0 safeties, 5 Pro Bowls, 2 1st Team All Pro, 2 playoff appearances (1 Super Bowl appearance [loss]).
Derrick Thomas: 126.5 sacks, 1 INT, 45 forced fumbles, 19 fumble rec., 4 touchdowns, 3 safeties, 9 Pro Bowls, 3 1st team All Pro, 7 playoff appearances (0 Super bowl appearances, 1 AFC championship).
I'm not sure how putting a kid in a somewhat dark room after he complaints about light affecting him is a bad thing for concussions. If he was throwing rocks at the kid's head, then maybe, but it doesn't sound like any physical harm at all was done.