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Since: 25.4.03
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Matt Ryan, QB, Atlanta Falcons - Offensive Rookie of the Year (sports.espn.go.com)

Jerod Mayo, LB, New England Patriots, - Defensive Rookie of the Year (sports.espn.go.com)

Chad Pennington, QB, Miami Dolphins - Comeback Player of the Year (sports.espn.go.com)

I was really pulling for my guy Chris Johnson for Offensive R.O.Y., but who can argue with the numbers that Ryan has put up on his way to helping get the Falcons into the playoffs.

Pennington, I love it ... if the Titans weren't in the playoffs, I'd be pulling for Miami all the way just to root for this guy.
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I love that Pennington has won this award twice in the last three years. Doesn't exactly bode well for the 2009 season.
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I didn't think there was a chance anyone besides Kurt Warner would win Comeback Player Of The Year.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Nuclear Winter
    I didn't think there was a chance anyone besides Kurt Warner would win Comeback Player Of The Year.


My money would have been on Kerry Collins. I never his best days were behind him and the Titans would go 4-12 with him behind center.



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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3805670

Manning wins MVP. There should be an investigation. Rivers? Pennington? Brees? All had better seasons with fewer weapons and didn't get to play against high school teams the last half of season. I'm calling b*llsh*t.

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I would have gone with Pennington, but Manning did lead an average 3-4 team to 9 wins in a row.



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    Originally posted by djp
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3805670

    Manning wins MVP. There should be an investigation. Rivers? Pennington? Brees? All had better seasons with fewer weapons and didn't get to play against high school teams the last half of season. I'm calling b*llsh*t.

    I guess there's a lot in a name afterall.


Peter King presents his case why Manning is the MVP. Click Here (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) to see it.

You take a look at the Colts record the first portion of the season vs where they are now. Manning also not only had to fight through his own injury, but also had several others. He also had no running game to speak of for portions of the season as well.

You can argue numbers all you want. But the crux of the matter is this is not the case of the Most Outstanding Player (where numbers should count) but rather who is the most valuable to their team. Of the players you mentioned, Manning IMHO is the most valuable.

(edited by El Nastio on 2.1.09 1250)


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Mike Smith wins Coach of the Year (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) by one vote over Tony Sparano. Ironically, this was due to a split vote between them, which if made fully for Sparano, would have actually tied them.



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Isn't the MVP award basically a reward for a poorly constructed team? If you have someone who, if injured, could not be easily replaced, doesn't that mean you need to get better backups? Or if you have several great players on the same team, such that none of them can truly be called an MVP, that might prevent them from winning this award, but is that relevant if your team has a shot at the superbowl?

Couldn't an argument be made for Tom Brady to be this season's MVP since the Patriots missed the playoffs?

Did anyone who won any of the awards make it past the first round of the playoffs? While individual recognition is nice, I think that highlights how much this is a team sport.

(edited by EddieBurkett on 5.1.09 0004)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.30
    Originally posted by El Nastio

    You take a look at the Colts record the first portion of the season vs where they are now. Manning also not only had to fight through his own injury, but also had several others.


But Manning was part of the reason they were where they were after the first half of the season. The award should be based on play over the full season, not just the second half. And whilst I agree he was struggling with injury that's not something that should come into the discussion. Half the players in the league wind up playing with nicks at some point.

I don't have a major issue with it going to Manning given how these things are judged, but I think a stronger case could be made for Pennington as far as QBs go.

Of course the award should also pay a lot more attention to people who don't play QB or RB (James Harrison nets only three votes, Ed Reed none) but that's another matter altogether.

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Unfortunately MVP and Heisman awards will probably always be dominated by offensive skill players, it will take something amazing for a O-lineman or defensive player to win one. Even when Charles Woodson won his he had a key role as a return man.

I wasn't 100% on Manning winning it, but there wasn't anyone else who I thought had a case above and beyond his.

(edited by MUTigermask on 5.1.09 0856)
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Would've been mad if Ed Reed intercepted this defensive player of the year from a Steelers linebacker named James like he did to James Farrior in 2004.
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