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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.28
    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      And now, Hank Steinbrenner is complaining that baseball's divisional setup is unfair. Click Here (mlb.mlb.com)

      That's right....the YANKEES are saying it's too tough in the AL East. Hank, on behalf of BASEBALL fans everywhere, fuck off.

    Fixed that for ya :-)


A double "fuck you" to Hank for singling out Joe Torre and the Dodgers as playoff aberrations. I understand Hank feels stupid for letting Torre walk out the door (as well he should), but that doesn't mean he should start diminishing his accomplishment. As if it wasn't bad enough that last Sunday's Yankee Stadium celebration pretended that Joe Torre never existed. What petty garbage.

On another note, C.C. Sabathia is about to pitch on three-days rest...again. I hope the Brewers won't be shocked when his arm falls off just in time for the NLDS.

(edited by It's False on 24.9.08 1441)



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
    Originally posted by It's False
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53
        Originally posted by Big Bad
        And now, Hank Steinbrenner is complaining that baseball's divisional setup is unfair. Click Here (mlb.mlb.com)

        That's right....the YANKEES are saying it's too tough in the AL East. Hank, on behalf of BASEBALL fans everywhere, fuck off.

      Fixed that for ya :-)


    A double "fuck you" to Hank for singling out Joe Torre and the Dodgers as playoff aberrations. I understand Hank feels stupid for letting Torre walk out the door (as well he should), but that doesn't mean he should start diminishing his accomplishment. As if it wasn't bad enough that last Sunday's Yankee Stadium celebration pretended that Joe Torre never existed. What petty garbage.

    On another note, C.C. Sabathia is about to pitch on three-days rest...again. I hope the Brewers won't be shocked when his arm falls off just in time for the NLDS.

    (edited by It's False on 24.9.08 1441)

It won't matter, because by then the Brewers will again have choked their way out of the playoffs, and CC will be someone else's very expensive problem shortly thereafter.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      And now, Hank Steinbrenner is complaining that baseball's divisional setup is unfair. Click Here (mlb.mlb.com)

      That's right....Dumb douchebag Hank Steinbrenner is saying it's too tough in the AL East. Hank, on behalf of BASEBALL fans everywhere, fuck off.

    Fixed that for ya :-)
...and I tweaked that. Saying that Hank speaks for the Yankees is like saying the GW Bush speaks for every American citizen.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.56
    Originally posted by spf
    Going into tonight's White Sox vs. Twins game the margin between the two teams is now 1.5 games. I have spent the last 12 hours rocking back and forth like a lunatic, and have been listening to almost nothing but music from the "Rocky" soundtracks and "Don't Stop Believin'" all day to try and keep my spirits up going into what I fear could be the second game of a crushing sweep by the Twins.

    I hate the Metrodome. I don't care if their payroll doubles with the new stadium, it will be worth it just to make them leave that nightmare house of horrors.





You can always hope that the Royals do to the Twins what they did to the Tigers 2 years ago, but it really was nice for the Indians to line up Lee against the White Sox on the last day of the season.
I'm with you on being glad the day the Metrodome gets shuttered. Place is to the Red Sox what Royals Stadium used to be in the 70's and 80's. God do I hate Willie Wilson.
Could the Orioles in the future just save everyone time and just forfeit every game in September? They are gutless, but at least they are equal opportunity gutless as they couldn't beat anyone down the stretch, except the White Sox.
As for Hank: He probably has less input in the running of the Yankees than the average caller to WFAN, and he probably wouldn't be able to get a job sweeping the stadium if his father didn't purchase the team. I'm just surprised the New York papers haven't stolen the nickname of the former ownership of the Boston Celtics and started referring to Hank as Thanks Dad.

(edited by redsoxnation on 24.9.08 2201)
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
    Originally posted by Quezzy

    I don't see anything that suggests they can't play in September or they are being coached poorly.
    1. They lost 2 of 4, not 2 of 3 to the Nats and they beat the Nats twice the week before that. They scored 39 runs in the 4 wins. That's not losing to flat out inferior talent. A better team never loses 2 out of 6 games to an inferior team?
    (edited by Quezzy on 23.9.08 1651)


Well, 2 out of 5,

EDIT: What IS it with my math on this thread? B^) Nevermind!

but you're right about my error.

The Mets just lost a game where they had a man on third with none out for three consecutive innings, and only a walk allowed them to get one run in those situations. A second would have pulled them even in the loss column with the Phillies; instead they're now tied with the Brewers in the WC race. And this was against a team with nothing to play for that didn't use its best relievers.

If this were an isolated incident, that wouldn't mean much, but it isn't.

I'm not saying they're being managed poorly per se. But they can't seem to get anything done when the chips are down. Does a new manager from outside the organization fix that? I don't know, but I think that if they don't really accomplish anything here (like winning a couple of big games, if not taking a playoff series) then I'm going to be ready to give it a shot.

(edited by Peter The Hegemon on 25.9.08 2238)
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.79
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    And now, Hank Steinbrenner is complaining that baseball's divisional setup is unfair. Click Here (mlb.mlb.com)

    That's right....the YANKEES are saying it's too tough in the AL East. Hank, on behalf of Blue Jays fans everywhere, fuck off.


Granted, I'm biased as a Yankees fan, and I know Hank is full of hot air in saying this because the argument hasn't come out during the past 11 years. However, I do think it's crazy that teams with higher winning percentages than those who do make it into the playoffs have to watch from home.

Wouldn't adding 4 more slots to the postseason fix this? You can't do it the same way football does with a bye; it cools off your rotation, but more of an NBA style not only prolongs the postseason by about a week and sells more tickets to the deserving teams who made it, but decreases the likelihood of fluke runs too. IE, last year the Red Sox might have actually faced a challenge in the Series rather than pulling a sweep, which has happened a little frequently lately.

Oh, one last thought; why don't we go with a salary cap while we're at it? Again, might sound crazy coming from a dread Yanks fan, but hell, it only makes sense.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.85
    Originally posted by Lexus
    Wouldn't adding 4 more slots to the postseason fix this?


Adding four teams to the playoffs in 2006 would have given you an NL playoff with the following teams:

NY Mets (97-65)
San Diego (88-74)
St Louis (83-78)
LA Dodgers (88-74)
Philadelphia (85-77)
Houston (82-80)
Cincinnati (80-82)
Atlanta (79-83)

That doesn't really seem to address the problem. Perhaps the real solution is to accept the fact that the best team doesn't always win and the worst team doesn't always lose. The Cardinals won the World Series in 2006 despite winning just 83 games; from that you could draw the conclusion that a mediocre team got lucky at the end, or you could conclude that a very, very good team had a mediocre season. Either way, they were obviously good enough to win the World Series, so what's the problem?

(edited by TheBucsFan on 25.9.08 1422)
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.79
No problem. You even showed that the 5th best regular season team in the NL won the Series, just like the 5th best regular season team in the NFC in football won the Super Bowl last year. I personally have little problem accepting the way it is now, but snubbing the 4th best regular season team in the NL in 2006 wasn't exactly fair.

Don't get me wrong, it can happen in the NFL; If all 4 teams in the NFC East go 12-4 (possible, yet improbable), that means at least one 12-4 team will miss the playoffs while concievably a 10-6, 9-7, and 8-8 team each make it from every other division. Whoever gets left out is going to raise hell.

Expand the post-season, sell more tickets, and playoff games always get better ratings anyway. Yeah you'll get some lame duck teams with sub-.500 records, but you'll get a lot more baseball out of it and open it up for more deserving teams; most notably the in the NL where you usually get one juggernaut of a team and a mess of a scramble elsewise. However, to bring balance to it all, a salary cap is necessary.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.49
And the Dodgers(!!!) win the West while in their cars on the way to tonight's game, thanks to Arizona's decimation at the hands of the Cards.

Thank you St. Louis! Now, let's get this East and Wild Card situation straightened out.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.51
    Originally posted by Lexus

    Expand the post-season, sell more tickets, and playoff games always get better ratings anyway. Yeah you'll get some lame duck teams with sub-.500 records, but you'll get a lot more baseball out of it and open it up for more deserving teams; most notably the in the NL where you usually get one juggernaut of a team and a mess of a scramble elsewise. However, to bring balance to it all, a salary cap is necessary.


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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
    Originally posted by Lexus
    No problem. You even showed that the 5th best regular season team in the NL won the Series, just like the 5th best regular season team in the NFC in football won the Super Bowl last year. I personally have little problem accepting the way it is now, but snubbing the 4th best regular season team in the NL in 2006 wasn't exactly fair.

    Don't get me wrong, it can happen in the NFL; If all 4 teams in the NFC East go 12-4 (possible, yet improbable), that means at least one 12-4 team will miss the playoffs while concievably a 10-6, 9-7, and 8-8 team each make it from every other division. Whoever gets left out is going to raise hell.

    Expand the post-season, sell more tickets, and playoff games always get better ratings anyway. Yeah you'll get some lame duck teams with sub-.500 records, but you'll get a lot more baseball out of it and open it up for more deserving teams; most notably the in the NL where you usually get one juggernaut of a team and a mess of a scramble elsewise. However, to bring balance to it all, a salary cap is necessary.

I assume in your scenario they will be playing all these extra games in neutral domes since this would extend the season into mid-November?



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52

    Originally posted by Lexus

    Expand the post-season, sell more tickets, and playoff games always get better ratings anyway. Yeah you'll get some lame duck teams with sub-.500 records, but you'll get a lot more baseball out of it and open it up for more deserving teams; most notably the in the NL where you usually get one juggernaut of a team and a mess of a scramble elsewise. However, to bring balance to it all, a salary cap is necessary.


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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.28
Man, I love this game sometimes.

-Mets win with a walk-off hit in the 9th.
-Brewers win with a walk-off grand slam in the 10th.
-Twins sweep the White Sox with a walk-off hit in the 10th, after coming back from a 6-0 deficit.

Can't wait for this weekend.




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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.56
Hee hee....

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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.39


That was great, but the final punchline absolutely slayed me.



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.56
    Originally posted by It's False
    Man, I love this game sometimes.

    -Mets win with a walk-off hit in the 9th.


    Can't wait for this weekend.






I have never seen a runner out by as much as Church was at the plate in the 8th and avoid getting tagged. The catcher had the ball a minimum 30 feet before Church reached the plate and still couldn't tag him.
Considering a major rainstorm is going to be followed by a potential tropical storm on the East Coast that could postpone 2 games in the Mets/Marlins series, shouldn't Bud have both teams go to Atlanta to play those games to get them in?
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.54
    Originally posted by redsoxnation


    Considering a major rainstorm is going to be followed by a potential tropical storm on the East Coast that could postpone 2 games in the Mets/Marlins series, shouldn't Bud have both teams go to Atlanta to play those games to get them in?


There's already a lot of speculation on what's going to happen in NY tonight, and the early thoughts are this:

- Tonight is almost surely a washout
- Tomorrow is supposed to be lousy, but everything possible will be done to get at least one game in
- Sunday still has a 60% chance of rain, and the plan is to dodge the showers and get the final 2 games in, leaving Monday open for any tiebreakers that would be needed.

Of course, if they can't get at least 1 game in between tonight and tomorrow, and/or TS Kyle swerves more to the west, and makes Sunday miserable, then things get a whole lot more complicated, but I haven't heard anything about this series being moved.



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.28
For all intents and purposes, the Mets' second straight collapse is nearly complete. They go down 6-1 to the Marlins, while the Phillies and Brewers both win. Johan Santana goes on three days rest tomorrow, but it could all be for naught if the Phils and Brewers both win out.

I'm still on the edge of my seat about the AL Central race, even though both the Twins and White Sox lost ugly tonight to the division's bottom-feeders. The White Sox looked good for about a minute, but that 6-run Indians 3rd inning just killed them.

EDIT:

    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    If they don't show some improvement, they have to consider trading Reyes. I hate to say that, but he just seems to fall apart when September comes. The sad thing is, I know wherever he goes, he'll be better in future Septembers--but that doesn't mean he'll get better if he stays in Queens. Of course, you have to get value for him, but I think they at least would need to test the waters.


Just for the record, Reyes went 0 for 5 tonight in the loss against the Marlins. If any of the players get turfed over the collapse, I don't doubt that Reyes will be the first to go.

(edited by It's False on 26.9.08 2229)



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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
    Originally posted by redsoxnation

      I have never seen a runner out by as much as Church was at the plate in the 8th and avoid getting tagged. The catcher had the ball a minimum 30 feet before Church reached the plate and still couldn't tag him.


    Well...I hate to say this as a Mets fan, but Church was on the grass, which means he was running out of the baseline to avoid the tag, which means he should have been called out.

    Thanks to Big Bad for the Carlos Voltron link. Funny stuff. Ditto hansen on the ending.

    (edited by Peter The Hegemon on 28.9.08 0035)
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Here's how I see it turning out:

AL Home field: Angels (pretty sure they haven't clinched just yet but I am not sure)
AL East: Rays (clinched)
AL Central: Twins
AL West: Angels (clinched)
AL Wild Card: Red Sox (clinched)

NL Home field: Cubs (clinched since about June)
NL East: Phillies
NL Central: Cubs (clinched)
NL West: Dodgers
NL Wild Card: Brewers



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