AL Starters 1B David Ortiz Boston Red Sox 2B Mark Loretta Boston Red Sox 3B Alex Rodriguez New York Yankees SS Derek Jeter New York Yankees C Ivan Rodriguez Detroit Tigers OF Vladimir Guerrero Los Angeles Angels OF Manny Ramirez Boston Red Sox OF Ichiro Suzuki Seattle Mariners
American League pitchers SP Mark Buerhle Chicago White Sox SP Jose Contreras Chicago White Sox SP Roy Halladay Toronto Blue Jays SP Scott Kazmir Tampa Bay Devil Rays SP Mark Redman Kansas City Royals SP Kenny Rogers Detroit Tigers SP Johan Santana Minnesota Twins SP Barry Zito Oakland Athletics RP Bobby Jenks Chicago White Sox RP Jon Papelbon Boston Red Sox RP Mariano Rivera New York Yankees RP B.J. Ryan Toronto Blue Jays
American League reserves 1B Paul Konerko Chicago White Sox 1B Jim Thome Chicago White Sox 2B Robinson Cano New York Yankees 2B Jose Lopez Seattle Mariners 3B Troy Glaus Toronto Blue Jays SS Miguel Tejada Baltimore Orioles SS Michael Young Texas Rangers C Joe Mauer Minnesota Twins OF Jermaine Dye Chicago White Sox OF Alex Rios Toronto Blue Jays OF Gary Matthews, Jr. Texas Rangers OF Grady Sizemore Cleveland Indians OF Vernon Wells Toronto Blue Jays
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NL Starters 1B Albert Pujols St. Louis Cardinals 2B Chase Utley Philadelphia Phillies 3B David Wright New York Mets SS Jose Reyes New York Mets C Paul Lo Duca New York Mets OF Jason Bay Pittsburgh Pirates OF Carlos Beltran New York Mets OF Alfonso Soriano Washington Nationals
National League pitchers SP Carlos Zambrano Chicago Cubs SP Bronson Arroyo Cincinnati Reds SP Brad Penny Los Angeles Dodgers SP Tom Glavine New York Mets SP Pedro Martinez New York Mets SP Chris Carpenter St. Louis Cardinals SP Jason Schmidt San Francisco Giants RP Brian Fuentes Colorado Rockies RP Derrick Turnbow Milwaukee Brewers RP Tom Gordon Philadelphia Phillies RP Trevor Hoffmann San Diego Padres
National League reserves 1B Lance Berkman Houston Astros 1B Ryan Howard Philadelphia Phillies 2B Dan Uggla Florida Marlins 3B Miguel Cabrera Florida Marlins 3B Freddy Sanchez Pittsburgh Pirates 3B Scott Rolen St. Louis Cardinals SS Edgar Renteria Atlanta Braves C Brian McCann Atlanta Braves OF Andruw Jones Atlanta Braves OF Matt Holliday Colorado Rockies OF Carlos Lee Milwaukee Brewers
Very happy to see a lot of first-time names made it: Reyes, McCann, Uggla, Utley (starting, no less!!), Fuentes, and BJ Ryan.
But I have issue with the one player per team rule. I understand the logic behind it, but how does Mark Redman make the team over Francisco Liriano of the Twins?? Granted, Liriano hasn't been starting for the entire season, but already he's surpassed most of the league. Hopefully, there's still the option of the fans voting in someone, but that's usually a position player.
Also, how did Paul Lo Duca get voted a starter... or to the team at all?? Even David Ross of the Reds is having a better year. Lo Duca is a poor man's catcher these days. Russell Martin would have been a cool choice for catcher.
Every team, just about, has a guy that their fans say got robbed, and here's mine: Kevin Youkilis. His emergence at first base (and third, and left field) has been my favorite thing about the Red Sox this season. After spending two years going back and forth from Boston to Pawtucket, he's finally getting his chance to play every day, and he's doing everything we could have asked of him and more. Without his consistent bat at the top of the lineup (or wherever we put him), the order would be in disarray. I'm disappointed that he's not even in consideration for the last man balloting, but hopefully he'll be an injury replacement.
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Originally posted by GugsEvery team, just about, has a guy that their fans say got robbed, and here's mine: Kevin Youkilis. His emergence at first base (and third, and left field) has been my favorite thing about the Red Sox this season. After spending two years going back and forth from Boston to Pawtucket, he's finally getting his chance to play every day, and he's doing everything we could have asked of him and more. Without his consistent bat at the top of the lineup (or wherever we put him), the order would be in disarray. I'm disappointed that he's not even in consideration for the last man balloting, but hopefully he'll be an injury replacement.
He probably would have had a shot if Ortiz didn't have to go at first. But does anyone not named Francisco Liriano have ANY chance at the last player balloting?
Oh boy, I get to nitpick and whine! Well, not really. They're mostly minor nitpicks, admittedly because they conflicted with my ballot.
American League - Mark Loretta at second base. He's a good player, but in my opinion Jose Lopez or Tadahito Iguchi would be MUCH better choices in that position (especially Lopez). - Derek Jeter at SS. I'm a HYOOOOOGE Yankee fans and self-professed pathetic Jeter mark. And even I think it should be Miguel Tejada. Unfortunately, though, this and the choice above just goes to show how many Sox and Yanks fans are out there and how unwilling they are to vote for anyone that doesn't play for their team. That being said, I am absolutely ECSTATIC that there's players from teams other than the Yankees and Red Sox in the starting lineup. Early on in the voting it was looking like it'd be the New Boston Yanksox against the National League All-Stars. Color me relieved.
National League - Paul Lo Duca at Catcher. My vote went to Michael Barrett from the Cubbies, and I still think he'd be a better choice. That being said, Barrett doesn't exactly run away with it in my mind, so it's really just me splitting hairs and I don't really have that much of a problem with it. It's not like, say, Loretta starting at 2nd for the AL.
Other than that, amazingly I don't have any other problems with it. At first I was a little disappointed not to see Liriano get on the pitching staff with the season he's having, however he's pretty young and could have an absolutely horrific second half, so I can't complain.
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My friends and I were wondering which Royal would get picked. Needless to say, Mark Redman didn't even make the top five. I figured Gruds or Mientkewicz would get in for being the bigger names (literally). Loretta starting is a real joke.
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I can only speak to the Brewers, as I really only know what's been going on with them, but Chris Capuano deserves to be playing in the All-Star game more than Derrick Turnbow does. Capuano's has pitched the 2nd highest number of innings in the NL. He's 9-4 with a 3.45 ERA. With Sheets out, he's their #1 starter. Turnbow is 23 - 28 in save opportunities. Among NL pitchers with at least 10 save opportunities, his 82% ranks 9th. I know that they have different roles, but given that there are 4 closers on the NL staff, I think Cappy is more deserving.
Cappy's in the NL final man voting, but I expect Nomar to get voted in ahead of him.
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Loretta's not the worst player to be voted into the lineup (David Eckstein started at short for the NL last year). He's hitting .317 after a tough April, and has been part of the remarkable infield defense that the Red Sox have had. Plus, we have more fans than you, so shut up. ;-)
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Nice to see Mauer make it. There was some hubub among the local sports writers that Ozzie was going to wedge Pierzinski into the lineup, so it's a bit of a relief to see him AND Santana make it.
The only two people I can see making the "last chance" vote are Nomar and Liriano, based solely on stats, though I could see people voting for Haffner if they didn't want to put another pitcher on the AL roster.
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Originally posted by Deputy Marshall My vote went to Michael Barrett from the Cubbies, and I still think he'd be a better choice.
I've got no problem with the Lo Duca choice, you have to understand the situations. When Lee was out Barrett was put fourth in the lineup and was just asked to slug away and well his numbers aren't that impressive. Lo Duca's job in the Mets lineups is simply to move Reyes to the next base and Reyes is leading the majors in runs. So I'd say Lo Duca is doing his job better than Barrett. Is doing your job good enough to be an All Star? Maybe not, but if that is the case than no catcher in the NL would be worthy of an All Star except maybe McCann. I think he's the only guy with a beef hitting .365, but he atleast made the team anyway.
I think the NL team, both the voting and the reserves are pretty much who I would've picked. I have a lot more questions about the AL though. Lopez should be starting at second. I'd take Schilling, Mussina, Beckett, Verlander or Liriano over Buehrle. I'd take Hafner over either Thome or Konerko, sure they're both having great seasons but 1B is too loaded a position to take two guys from one team. Also it's a crime that Jim Leyland won't be on the coaching staff, besides being the best manager this season by a wide margin he's like a hero to the hometown Pittsburgh fans and would possibly get the biggest ovation of the night.
Mr. Boffo, I think there is still a chance for Capuano. Pedro opted not to play in the All Star game last year and he's missing his start today to recover from an injury so I say there's probably a 99.9 percent chance he doesn't play in the All Star game this year. That would open another spot for a starter and since Young and Capuano are in the running for the final vote I imagine it's between one of the two of them to replace Pedro if he doesn't play.
For the last two spots I'd have to go with Hafner and Nomar, I think they are the most deserving even though both would mean a fourth first basemen and both All Star teams have a player from the manager's team (Konerko, Thome and Berkman) at first so Hafner and Nomar would maybe not even play, but they should still be there.
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On a side note for anyone who is interested and haven't heard Carlos Lee has dropped out of the homerun derby contest due to a sore hand. So currently the competitors are David Oritz, Ryan Howard, Jermaine Dye, David Wright, and Troy Glaus. There are three more spots left.
mostly good picks for the game. the obvious 5th men should be Liriano and Nomar, with a small look to Hafner. The AL catchers are just so much better than the NL ones. I see R. Hernandez getting in somehow and Mauer should be starting.
Loretta ain't bad either. If I'm playing for the second half I'd rather have him than Lopez or Iguchi. I also like Jeter to for getting on base.
Turnbow is really nothing special.
The biggest snub not even on the 5 man fan choice is Crawford. He is the rare legit 5 category player, on fire the last two months.
If the guys from Detroit want more allstars, they should get to the world series this year and next time Leland can load his own roster.
Originally posted by skorpio17 the obvious 5th men should be Liriano and Nomar, with a small look to Hafner.
I don't see how Liriano is the "obvious" pick and Hafner is gets a "small" look. If the season ended today I bet Ortiz would win the MVP and Hafner is pretty much even with him across the board. Ortiz has a few more homeruns and RBI but Hafner has more runs, a better average, more walks, less strikeouts, and a higher OPS. I think a guy who is pretty much tied for having the best season in the AL is a no brainer and should be the "obvious" pick. Liriano is having a great season and should be on the team but not over Hafner. Especially when Liriano hasn't really beaten anyone that good yet.
The owner they have now didn't "nuke" this team in the first place. A common misconception among baseball fans that REALLY annoys me. "Oh, they're winning now, but they'll sell off all their players again." What a joke.